Player Discussion Trent Frederic II

Dr Hook

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I fully admit I'm hard on Trent Frederic. Not because I don't like the guy, but because I expect more from him.

I feel like a broken record when I say I'm not sure what type of player he wants to be.

1 game he's engaged physically.
5 games you don't notice him.
1 game he scores a goal
5 games you don't notice him.
1 game he's engaged physically
3 games you don't notice him.
1 game he scores
5 games you don't notice him.

Overall for me it's the lack of consistency in his game. I use a Lucic comparison (not that he's Lucic) but when Lucic would go on cold streaks, he'd be mixing it up, trying to get involved any way he can if he's not producing offensively.

Frederic seems to be on Frederic time.

When he first came up, he was engaged every shift it seemed. He was drawing penalties, being a pest, and then started getting a bit more of a scoring touch. Once he found that he kind of abandoned everything for a bit. I'd just like to see him take initiative and get himself going any way he can.

@PlayMakers has said for a long time now that Frederic wants to be a Charlie Coyle type player- a puck possession forward that plays a skilled cycle game. Now Coyle has had his issues this season with scoring, but one thing he almost never does is take nights off. He can be ineffective, but the guy still works hard out there. Trent does not seem to have that kind of motor on him (at least that he's ever showed since very early on), but he's also seemingly not interested in returning to the agitator/enforcer-lite that he was when he was trying to make the team. Thus we have what we have.
 

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@PlayMakers has said for a long time now that Frederic wants to be a Charlie Coyle type player- a puck possession forward that plays a skilled cycle game. Now Coyle has had his issues this season with scoring, but one thing he almost never does is take nights off. He can be ineffective, but the guy still works hard out there. Trent does not seem to have that kind of motor on him (at least that he's ever showed since very early on), but he's also seemingly not interested in returning to the agitator/enforcer-lite that he was when he was trying to make the team. Thus we have what we have.
This is my issue. He seems more than content on being this guy, and if this is what he is and will be?

See ya.
 
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This is my issue. He seems more than content on being this guy, and if this is what he is and will be?

See ya.
I could not agree more. He is not good enough or consistent enough to be a Coyle type player, and doesn't want to be a power forward, so, yep, see ya, especially when we can almost bet that his contract ask is going to be north of $4m with a commensurate term.
 

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@PlayMakers has said for a long time now that Frederic wants to be a Charlie Coyle type player- a puck possession forward that plays a skilled cycle game. Now Coyle has had his issues this season with scoring, but one thing he almost never does is take nights off. He can be ineffective, but the guy still works hard out there. Trent does not seem to have that kind of motor on him (at least that he's ever showed since very early on), but he's also seemingly not interested in returning to the agitator/enforcer-lite that he was when he was trying to make the team. Thus we have what we have.
Not sure what Coyle your watching the guy I'm seeing has mailed in every game other than the centennial one.
 

Mr. Make-Believe

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I like Trent Frederic. I’m critical of him right now because his play hasn’t matched what we’ve seen from him in the past.

He’s a guy who has improved his play every season until this year. And this year - my god could we use some Frederic at his best.

Look no further than that top line. Team isn’t deep enough at top six talent to have an ideal option in that LW slot. But damn if it’s not a tailor-made opportunity for a guy like Freddy to take it and run. He’s got speed. He can hit. He has puck skill and can disrupt the opposition in three zones. He has a decent shot. He sticks up for his teammates. He’s the perfect compliment for that line.

Instead his play has been so lacklustre that Morgan f***in’ Geekie is showing to be a better fit on that top unit - on his off-wing. What does Geekie do better than Frederic? I think the only thing you can say this season is “show the f*** up.”

It’s frustrating because we know he can be so much better.
 

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Not sure what Coyle your watching the guy I'm seeing has mailed in every game other than the centennial one.
I'm watching the same guy, I just don't see him mailing it in. I see him struggling to generate offense and at times keep up with the play. He's been ass, no question, but I do not see a lack of effort from him, just a lack of results.
 
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Over the volcano

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I like Trent Frederic. I’m critical of him right now because his play hasn’t matched what we’ve seen from him in the past.

He’s a guy who has improved his play every season until this year. And this year - my god could we use some Frederic at his best.

Look no further than that top line. Team isn’t deep enough at top six talent to have an ideal option in that LW slot. But damn if it’s not a tailor-made opportunity for a guy like Freddy to take it and run. He’s got speed. He can hit. He has puck skill and can disrupt the opposition in three zones. He has a decent shot. He sticks up for his teammates. He’s the perfect compliment for that line.

Instead his play has been so lacklustre that Morgan f***in’ Geekie is showing to be a better fit on that top unit - on his off-wing. What does Geekie do better than Frederic? I think the only thing you can say this season is “show the f*** up.”

It’s frustrating because we know he can be so much better.
I like Geekie's game of late but I don't see him as any indictment of Frederic. I mean their production on the year is basically identical and only one of em is playing with their best offense threats while the other has been chained to the ghost of Charlie Coyle.
 

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