Travis Green next HC of Senators?

[Wierzbowski426]

Thank you Senators, was not impressed with the devils play (which seemingly got worse) after he took over and ive never heard another fan base hate someone the way vancouver hates green.

 

[The Professional]

Sigh. It's like this organization is allergic to hiring a head coach with pedigree and a winning record. So underwhelming.

 

[NyQuil]

Thank you Senators, was not impressed with the devils play (which seemingly got worse) after he took over and ive never heard another fan base hate someone the way vancouver hates green.

Let us know if you have any other cast offs you want to unload.

You should ask Vancouver fans if they hate Green, Marchand or Messier the most because there’s competition.

 

[Szechwan]

4 years??

F in the chat for Sens fans

 

[6stringmofo]

Well, this was the least sexy option I would have chosen.

Expected more from new ownership.

 

[Bubbles]

Berube, Granato, Woodcroft, McLellan, Gerard Gallant, Dean Evason, and Bruce Boudreau. And they chose Green??

 

[StickShift]

Thank you Senators, was not impressed with the devils play (which seemingly got worse) after he took over and ive never heard another fan base hate someone the way vancouver hates green.

To be fair, I don't think Canucks fans really hate Green. His time overlapped with the dark ages of Jim Benning. He was never properly given a roster that he could contend with. And when he sorta-kinda-almost had one in the playoffs bubble—the GM failed to re-sign any of his key UFAs in the summer (Tanev, Toffoli, Markstrom, Stecher).

People also forget that Green did well to bring Pettersson, Hughes, and Boeser into the NHL and give them major minutes when some other coaches may have benched them or sent them to the AHL. A lot of credit is deserved for doing that in an intense Canadian market.

IMO Green's greatest success and worst sin was the playoffs bubble. Specifically, the series versus Vegas. He learned in that series that it was effective to play shutdown hockey and rely on team defense and goaltending and hope for a lucky offensive break to win games. They almost won that series despite having the ice tilted against them the entire time.

That strategy was effective in a short tournament—but it seemed like he employed the same tactics the next year in the Canada-only division and the team was eaten alive. He probably should've been fired then when he didn't adapt. But the ineptitude of that front office kept him when it was clear that wholesale changes throughout the organization were required.

 

[NyQuil]

Berube, Granato, Woodcroft, McLellan, Gerard Gallant, Dean Evason, and Bruce Boudreau. And they chose Green??

You forgot Julien.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

First it's DJ Smith and now Green? Yikes. Sens fans have a reason for more disappointment in the coming years. I bet Brady asks for a trade by the trade deadline next year.

 

[Relapsing]

You forgot Julien.

ChatGPT 3.5 is f***ing free. I'm sure it would be up to handling the task

 

[NailsHoglander]

To be fair, I don't think Canucks fans really hate Green. His time overlapped with the dark ages of Jim Benning. He was never properly given a roster that he could contend with. And when he sorta-kinda-almost had one in the playoffs bubble—the GM failed to re-sign any of his key UFAs in the summer (Tanev, Toffoli, Markstrom, Stecher).

People also forget that Green did well to bring Pettersson, Hughes, and Boeser into the NHL and give them major minutes when some other coaches may have benched them or sent them to the AHL. A lot of credit is deserved for doing that in an intense Canadian market.

IMO Green's greatest success and worst sin was the playoffs bubble. Specifically, the series versus Vegas. He learned in that series that it was effective to play shutdown hockey and rely on team defense and goaltending and hope for a lucky offensive break to win games. They almost won that series despite having the ice tilted against them the entire time.

That strategy was effective in a short tournament—but it seemed like he employed the same tactics the next year in the Canada-only division and the team was eaten alive. He probably should've been fired then when he didn't adapt. But the ineptitude of that front office kept him when it was clear that wholesale changes throughout the organization were required.

No no no no.. We hate him.

 

[Zippgunn]

Well sometimes one is just plain wrong; I stated that Green would never have another head coaching job in the NHL after he was canned in Van . The Sens are doomed to mediocrity...

To be fair, I don't think Canucks fans really hate Green. His time overlapped with the dark ages of Jim Benning. He was never properly given a roster that he could contend with. And when he sorta-kinda-almost had one in the playoffs bubble—the GM failed to re-sign any of his key UFAs in the summer (Tanev, Toffoli, Markstrom, Stecher).

People also forget that Green did well to bring Pettersson, Hughes, and Boeser into the NHL and give them major minutes when some other coaches may have benched them or sent them to the AHL. A lot of credit is deserved for doing that in an intense Canadian market.

IMO Green's greatest success and worst sin was the playoffs bubble. Specifically, the series versus Vegas. He learned in that series that it was effective to play shutdown hockey and rely on team defense and goaltending and hope for a lucky offensive break to win games. They almost won that series despite having the ice tilted against them the entire time.

That strategy was effective in a short tournament—but it seemed like he employed the same tactics the next year in the Canada-only division and the team was eaten alive. He probably should've been fired then when he didn't adapt. But the ineptitude of that front office kept him when it was clear that wholesale changes throughout the organization were required.

No who they REALLY hated was Willie D...

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Maybe in Ottawa is Greener pastures?

 

[NyQuil]

Maybe in Ottawa is Greener pastures?

It appears as if a lack of “green” is what got him hired.

 

[Peasy]

4 years for Green is hilarious.

Once again, Sens cheaping out. The owners change, but the same issues remain.

 

[Hale The Villain]

4 years for Green is hilarious.

Once again, Sens cheaping out. The owners change, but the same issues remain.

Will continue until the Sens have an downtown arena instead of playing in a barn in the middle of nowhere.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

This is such a bad hiring. Sens are outta their minds hiring him.

I bet there will be a point next season that a star player in Ottawa requests a trade due to another frustrating season

 

[Breakers]

No player struggled under green more than Tanev

The before and after of his underlying numbers is one of the most drastic I have ever seen

 

[Hale The Villain]

No player struggled under green more than Tanev

The before and after of his underlying numbers is one of the most drastic I have ever seen

I was hoping this hiring was 4D chess by Staios and it was going to help convince Tanev to come to Ottawa.

Guess that ain't happening.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Via Thomas Drance, Canucks beat writer:

“I covered Travis Green closely during arguably the most dysfunctional stretch in recent Vancouver Canucks history — and that’s saying something.

After a successful stint as the club’s AHL coach in Utica, a stretch that included a Calder Cup Final appearance in the early stages of Green’s tenure, the club iced rosters that were undermanned in the extreme. And those Green-era teams played recognizably organized hockey, often punching above their weight, especially early in the year, before the extreme lack of talent caught up to them.

In 2019-20, the club hit something of a wave and over-performed — both in the regular season and in the playoff bubble. Green’s tactics against the Golden Knights in forcing a seventh game as a massive underdog in the second round became a template that Golden Knights opponents widely copied in frustrating the DeBoer-era Golden Knights in the playoffs over the next few years.

Then things got weird in Vancouver.

COVID-related budget cuts gutted the roster. A massive COVID outbreak during the 2021 season impacted Green severely, and the team massively as well, as the club sagged to seventh in the All-Canadian division.

The next year, Green made some tactical tweaks to try and shore up the club’s brutal defensive game. It worked at five-on-five, but the team was undone by struggling severely on the penalty kill and by the pervasive struggles of some star players. Twenty-five games into the season, Green was fired and replaced by Bruce Boudreau.

Throughout his Canucks tenure, Green’s Canucks leaned heavily on and did well to develop young players. He was disciplined and even innovative about how he handled matchups in-game.

He tended not to get fooled by hot streaks, and when he was criticized for player deployment, his decisions tended to bear themselves out over time (the players who didn’t get enough opportunity under Green tended not to become more meaningful contributors after his departure). His X’s and O’s and structural work are excellent, and he’s open minded about incorporating analytics into his player evaluation, working closely with Vancouver’s since-promoted director of analytics, Aiden Fox, throughout his Canucks tenure.

This is a sharp coach who deserves a stable opportunity after the way things unfolded for him in Vancouver. Taking over a young team like the Senators strikes me as a uniquely good fit.”

 

[Jacob]

Lots of coaches that have a pretty poor track record end up doing well in other situations but this doesn't seem like a very evidence-based decision.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Thank you Senators, was not impressed with the devils play (which seemingly got worse) after he took over and ive never heard another fan base hate someone the way vancouver hates green.

Maybe there something in the water? You comment made me think of fan hatreds, and a couple of them with Vancouver immediately came to mind:

Most virulent hatred of a player on their teams: Mark Messier on Canucks
Most virulent hatred of GM: Close - but Benning on Canucks. HM to Chia in EDM.

Please note - I'm not saying that these are "undeserved" hatreds by any stretch.

 

[Aashir Mallik]

Ottawa ensuring that Ontario ain’t winning a cup

 

[Bounces R Way]

on no mama
What a horrible hire

 

[DVision44]

Let us know if you have any other cast offs you want to unload.

You should ask Vancouver fans if they hate Green, Marchand or Messier the most because there’s competition.

You'll should sign Brendan Smith... he's GREAT and Green likes him!!