Management Travis Green [Head Coach]

[Micklebot]

Underlying numbers at 5v5 are mostly improved compared to last year, particularly defensive metrics.

​

GP​

Point %​

CF%​

SF%​

GF/60​

GA/60​

GF%​

xGF/60​

xGA/60​

xGF%​

SCF/60​

SCA/60​

SCF%​

HDCF/60​

HDCA/60​

HDCF%​

2024/25​

17​

0.5​

53.82​

55.76​

2.31​

2.61​

46.97​

2.48​

2.12​

53.92​

27.14​

25.8​

51.27​

9.02​

8.87​

50.42​

2023/24​

82​

0.476​

50.45​

50.51​

2.5​

2.94​

45.92​

2.55​

2.64​

49.15​

26.87​

28.33​

48.68​

10.87​

11.34​

48.93​

2023-24 start​

17​

0.471​

48.09​

48.81​

3.15​

3.15​

50​

2.42​

2.89​

45.59​

25.55​

31​

45.18​

14.96​

16.34​

47.79​

Martin first 17​

17​

0.441​

51.5​

50.29​

3.2​

3.42​

48.31​

2.81​

2.87​

49.47​

28.36​

29.77​

48.78​

12.06​

12.43​

49.24​

Martin final 17​

17​

0.529​

52.09​

50.27​

1.62​

3.09​

34.38​

2.31​

2.49​

48.06​

27.06​

25.37​

51.61​

9.12​

10.74​

45.93​

 

[BankStreetParade]

Underlying numbers at 5v5 are mostly improved compared to last year, particularly defensive metrics.

​

GP​

Point %​

CF%​

SF%​

GF/60​

GA/60​

GF%​

xGF/60​

xGA/60​

xGF%​

SCF/60​

SCA/60​

SCF%​

HDCF/60​

HDCA/60​

HDCF%​

2024/25​

17​

0.5​

53.82​

55.76​

2.31​

2.61​

46.97​

2.48​

2.12​

53.92​

27.14​

25.8​

51.27​

9.02​

8.87​

50.42​

2023/24​

82​

0.476​

50.45​

50.51​

2.5​

2.94​

45.92​

2.55​

2.64​

49.15​

26.87​

28.33​

48.68​

10.87​

11.34​

48.93​

Wouldn't it make more sense to compare the same segment of games? Doesn't make sense to me to compare a full season sample to a 17 game sample.

 

[Micklebot]

Wouldn't it make more sense to compare the same segment of games? Doesn't make sense to me to compare a full season sample to a 17 game sample.

Why?

Edit: I added in the start for you, I'm still not sure it adds much, generally, having the larger sample is preferable as it reduces the impact of variables like strength of schedule, or injuries. Generally speaking, the bigger the sample, the more stable and more predictive of future results they become.

I'm genuinely curious why you'd prefer to compare this season to the same sized sample, in terms of what additional value would that bring? I can only think of post trade deadline potentially being tougher due to trading away guys, I guess there's also the arguement that we're comparing DJ/Martin so maybe by using the first 17 we isolate DJ, we could do the same and isolate Martin...

edit2: in the spirit of being fully open, added more rows