Management Travis Green [Head Coach]

[Tuna99]

Green’s gotta feel happy tonight how dominant his team has been, doesn’t this feel like the start of Jacques Martin’s run but a bit better knowing we have the right guys for the playoffs.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Green’s gotta feel happy tonight how dominant his team has been, doesn’t this feel like the start of Jacques Martin’s run but a bit better knowing we have the right guys for the playoffs.

He should and he shouldn't. They look amazing for a game or two then shit the bed vs Montreal or Buffalo, so clearly a lot of work to do on consistency.

 

[KingAlfie11]

He should and he shouldn't. They look amazing for a game or two then shit the bed vs Montreal or Buffalo, so clearly a lot of work to do on consistency.

Indeed, but given their inconsistency over the past five seasons, it will likely take some time to overcome that particular shortcoming.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Indeed, but given their inconsistency over the past five seasons, it will likely take some time to overcome that particular shortcoming.

I would assume that's where Green will earn his money. He'll need to make in game adjustments and sent the bottom six out to spark. I'm not sure, but if we can come out like that 90 percent of the time, we're a beast.

Ullmark being calm and collected also helps, but they were dynamite as a team

 

[Bileur]

Team is play with cohesion and coordination we haven’t seen in a long time.

Nice to see a coaching change make a positive difference.

 

[PlayersLtd]

Another tough stretch coming up after Philly

@car
EDM
VGK
VAN (likely with Demko)

Need to go .500 through that stretch then some needed relief with:

CAL
@sj
@LA
@Ana
DET
NAS
NYI
ANA

Beat Philly and keep up our strong play at home and we could find ourselves 4-5 games above .500 by December 11th. We would be 28 games in which is just over the 1/3 mark with a 16-12 record good for 32 pts and needing another 62 pts to make the playoffs which means a 31-23 record which is essentially maintaining pace.

This league isn't easy.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Senators record after 16 games, last season….. 8 wins, 8 losses

Senator record after 16 games, this season …… 8 wins, 8 losses


Only difference is they have one more point this season, after 16 games, than last season.

 

[PlayOn]

Senators record after 16 games, last season….. 8 wins, 8 losses

Senator record after 16 games, this season …… 8 wins, 8 losses


Only difference is they have one more point this season, after 16 games, than last season.

They are very visibly a better team regardless of the record.

And anyway, it was December that did them in last year. They have to avoid lengthy losing streaks and instead put together a nice winning streak eventually. The latter feels more likely this year.

 

[Micklebot]

Senators record after 16 games, last season….. 8 wins, 8 losses

Senator record after 16 games, this season …… 8 wins, 8 losses


Only difference is they have one more point this season, after 16 games, than last season.

There's actually some pretty significant differences in how they've been playing, night and day really.

Last year, the underlying numbers, such as xGF%, were bottom 5 in the league, this year we are 6th in xGF% at 5v5.
Last year our 5v5 xGA/60 was 26th worst in the league, this year we are tied for 2nd best.
Last year after 16 games, we were out of a playoff spot by pts%, this year we currently hold a wild card spot.

The eye test makes it even more obvious how much better they are playing.

 

[Senovision]

We are 3-3-1 in November.

 

[coladin]

Playing great, best in a very long time. I am excited and sometimes there will be outcomes like this

 

[Beech]

They are very visibly a better team regardless of the record.

And anyway, it was December that did them in last year. They have to avoid lengthy losing streaks and instead put together a nice winning streak eventually. The latter feels more likely this year.

There's actually some pretty significant differences in how they've been playing, night and day really.

Last year, the underlying numbers, such as xGF%, were bottom 5 in the league, this year we are 6th in xGF% at 5v5.
Last year our 5v5 xGA/60 was 26th worst in the league, this year we are tied for 2nd best.
Last year after 16 games, we were out of a playoff spot by pts%, this year we currently hold a wild card spot.

The eye test makes it even more obvious how much better they are playing.

you think any of these will be used in the tie breaker rule? Or will they use these like US college football to determine FBS ranking?

If so, we are set.

Otherwise 93-97 points are needed. Regardless of how the team looks or plays.

 

[Micklebot]

you think any of these will be used in the tie breaker rule? Or will they use these like US college football to determine FBS ranking?

If so, we are set.

Otherwise 93-97 points are needed. Regardless of how the team looks or plays.

What i think is that when you have rare events like goals, you are better off using the more frequent elements that lead to them in order to predict future results when dealing with small samples.

What I think is we're currently sitting in a playoff spot.

What I think is that if people use some common sense when evaluating how the team is playing, they can see we are on the right path.

That last one is a big ask for some.

 

[PlayOn]

you think any of these will be used in the tie breaker rule? Or will they use these like US college football to determine FBS ranking?

If so, we are set.

Otherwise 93-97 points are needed. Regardless of how the team looks or plays.

No. I just think if they continue to play like this, the wins will come. They still have to prove it, that goes without saying.

This idea that this one point they lost is going to cost them a playoff spot is pointless to me. If they miss the playoffs by a point there were a lot of other problems with the team, getting caught up in every loss over 82 games is a waste of energy.

 

[UglyPuckling]

Stats and eye test show that we have improved. But, in the end, it has to translate to Ws and points in the standings because that’s what the NHL uses to determine success and ranking.

I remain hopeful, but both sides of this coin and argument have merit.

 

[Micklebot]

Stats and eye test show that we have improved. But, in the end, it has to translate to Ws and points in the standings because that’s what the NHL uses to determine success and ranking.

I remain hopeful, but both sides of this coin and argument have merit.

We're currently in a wild card spot using pts %, so both sides of the coin currently show us as improved.

 

[Loach]

What i think is that when you have rare events like goals, you are better off using the more frequent elements that lead to them in order to predict future results when dealing with small samples.

What I think is we're currently sitting in a playoff spot.

What I think is that if people use some common sense when evaluating how the team is playing, they can see we are on the right path.

That last one is a big ask for some.

I looked at like 4 different sites and we aren't in the playoffs.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

We're currently in a wild card spot using pts %, so both sides of the coin currently show us as improved.

8th in the conference in pts% and 6th in goal differential. Played a reasonably hard schedule. The team has improved but they need to continue getting better to make the playoffs, IMO. The overall game is there. Clean up some smaller details and we're making the postseason.

 

[Beech]

No. I just think if they continue to play like this, the wins will come. They still have to prove it, that goes without saying.

This idea that this one point they lost is going to cost them a playoff spot is pointless to me. If they miss the playoffs by a point there were a lot of other problems with the team, getting caught up in every loss over 82 games is a waste of energy.

What i think is that when you have rare events like goals, you are better off using the more frequent elements that lead to them in order to predict future results when dealing with small samples.

What I think is we're currently sitting in a playoff spot.

What I think is that if people use some common sense when evaluating how the team is playing, they can see we are on the right path.

That last one is a big ask for some.

I watched every minute of the game.

At times, they had Philie hemmed it, like The Sens would have been 3-5 years ago.

They went up 2. The Flyers should have been trashed.

points wise, they are 9th in the conference. Point percentage wise 8th. The top 4-6 teams in the conference are at 20 points or more already. They are at 17. While 3 Points seems small, it can be huge in this case.

A Toronto with No Mathews. A Bruins, seemingly imploding. Where would we be if they had dropped a point or two against them?


By game 20, they need to be at 23-24 points. They now have 4 games to acquire 7-8 points. Near perfect!!!!

UGGHHHH. I would have bet my house on a 95-100 point team...

I looked at like 4 different sites and we aren't in the playoffs.

They are points percentage wise.. But I get you: Candy and Nuts!!

 

[Micklebot]

I looked at like 4 different sites and we aren't in the playoffs.

Because they are looking at raw pts, some teams have already played 20 games to our 16. Presumably, the NHL will allow us to play all 82 this season.

 

[Loach]

Because they are looking at raw pts, some teams have already played 20 games to our 16. Presumably, the NHL will allow us to play all 82 this season.

...and you're presuming we win those games inhand.

 

[Micklebot]

...and you're presuming we win those games inhand.

Are you presuming that teams ahead of us will win some of the ~66 games they have remaining? If we're going to assume we'll lose the games we have in hand, should I assume they'll all lose the next 66 since you want to assume we'll lose games in hand?

I'm not saying we'll win the two games or whatever in hand, I'm saying that if all the teams continue at their current pace, then we will finish with more points. It's stupid to use raw pts with unequal games played, it's not reflective of reality.

NJD have 5 more games played than NYR, CAR and Was. Those teams are all on pace for 115-120 pts, while NJD are pacing at 106, there are no guarantees, but the likelihood is that those team will pass NJD.

 

[Loach]

Are you presuming that teams ahead of us will win some of the ~66 games they have remaining? If we're going to assume we'll lose the games we have in hand, should I assume they'll all lose the next 66 since you want to assume we'll lose games in hand?

I'm not saying we'll win the two games or whatever in hand, I'm saying that if all the teams continue at their current pace, then we will finish with more points. It's stupid to use raw pts with unequal games played, it's not reflective of reality.

NJD have 5 more games played than NYR, CAR and Was. Those teams are all on pace for 115-120 pts, while NJD are pacing at 106, there are no guarantees, but the likelihood is that those team will pass NJD.

JC

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Love the systems Greene has them playing. This team just has to keep believing and keep the high energy and they will win more than they lose

With saves we can definitely be a playoff team

 

[bicboi64]

We're not allowing too many shots under Green's coaching.

We're 5th in shots against, 3rd in shots for, definitely an improvement over the years