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Sypher04

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That playoff game wasn't the only time it was tried.

These other tries you speak of have been few and equally illegitimate.

Nylander has never been given a proper run of games to determine if he’s capable of adapting to center yet people label a few games here or there spent in the role as failure anyways. It’s ridiculous. He’s never had the opportunity to fail.
 

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You may be right, I do think there are a few more candidates than just Timothy though

You would think trading players to make the team better would be in a GM's job description, and every player should be available. Of course NMC and NTC do impact the freedom to make moves.

Last I checked the Leafs don't have the best center, the best winger, the best defenseman, nor the best goaltender in the league, therefore everyone should be available.
 
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ULF_55

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Yes he has had a year but it’s going to take a lot more than a year to turn the ship around. As firs as Matthews and Willy’s contracts it pretty hard to walk away from either of them as a new GM.
As far as Marner yes he made a mistake not trading him when he could but again that’s a pretty bold move first day on the job.
We will be paying the price of Dubas’s hubris for years to come

Treliving is not starting from a blank canvas.
Matthews, marner, Nylander, Tavares, Knies is a pretty good starting point.

Defense obviously, wasn't great, but Rielly was the only piece locked in.

Next year marner will be locked in, and Tavares will be re-signed to an appropriate contract.

Tanev and Ekman-Larsson are Treliving's long term signings.
Kampf and Domi are Trelivings.

We can accept, last year and this year he has been somewhat handcuffed by Tavares deal.

Everything next year will be on Treliving, and most of this year is.

Looking back marner was likely the correct pick, Rantanen and Aho would have been fine, but a stretch at the time. Werenski looks like a better option if you ignore his injury history.

It isn't like Treliving has a history of being a top GM, so not sure expectations should be that he becomes one. He doesn't have to be, he just can't screw up what he has, and step by step improve it.
 

Arzak

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Trade him now?


Also, we need the savage here. So the one that shell not be named (the one who can't handle open thread unless it's happy thoughts only) can sponge on it.
 

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I wouldn't be opposed to having Cowan stay up in the NHL and play 42-50 games to help develop him, doesn't have to play every game.

Trading Lillypad for some draft capital is probably the way to go to help with their cap situation and getting the 3m off the books. It appears based off of practice lines for the D and with his camp, Timmins is ahead of him Lilly.

It's still tough to read on whose on the team, read an article earlier today it looks like Lorentz is getting a spot somewhere, and there's still Jankrok and JT to come back.
 

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