Training camp chat

[nine_inch_fang]

Are there game sheets for the prospect games anywhere? I'm curious about the final point distribution.

Tolvanen 4G 1A
Pitlick 2G 3A

 

[GoldOnGold]

No, I know Tolvanen had 4g and 1 assist at least. Unsure about everyones totals though.

The Bratten article about the Carolina game said Pitlick had 2g 3a total as well.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

I wonder how likely it is for both Pitlick and Tolvanen to make the final roster.

Wouldn't that be something else.?.?.?

 

[Flgatorguy87]

It's going to be extremely difficult for anyone to make the roster outside the expected guys. I think they are likely just early callups.

 

[GoldOnGold]

It's going to be extremely difficult for anyone to make the roster outside the expected guys. I think they are likely just early callups.

Knowing the Preds and common sense says you're probably right, but imagine a roster like this:

Forsberg - Johansen - Arvidsson
Tolvanen - Duchene - Granlund
Pitlick/Jarnkrok - Turris - Smith
Watson - Sissons - Pitlick/Jarnkrok
Carr, Grimaldi
(With Bonino traded and Salomaki/Gaudreau waived)

 

[King Weber]

Pitlick and Tolvy have looked good but I'll try not to get too excited until I see how they do during pre-season games against NHL talents.

Both of them making it would be ideal though.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

Yeah, remember how many goals Fiala scored early in the pre-season last year??? Ugh...

 

[Legionnaire11]

Yeah, remember how many goals Fiala scored early in the pre-season last year??? Ugh...

After that he said "I have a number in mind, but i'm going to keep that a secret"... I bet he's glad he didn't actually put a number out there last year.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I wonder how likely it is for both Pitlick and Tolvanen to make the final roster.

Yeah, I wonder what it would actually take. I mean, the guys they are gonna knock off are like Salomaki and at the upper end Grimaldi, and those are not players getting big looks on top lines or anything. Imagine Pitlick or Tolvanen keep on keepin' on and tear up the NHL camp too. Does that actually get them a spot in a productive role on the '19-20 Preds? Or are they just in depth/pressbox roles? In which case, I can imagine the Preds just keeping their incumbents in those lesser roles and assigning Pitlick and Tolvanen to tear apart the AHL instead.

At least, that's the way I'm conditioned to think about. If things went down differently, that'd be great. Just I don't exactly see it.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

Yeah, I wonder what it would actually take. I mean, the guys they are gonna knock off are like Salomaki and at the upper end Grimaldi, and those are not players getting big looks on top lines or anything. Imagine Pitlick or Tolvanen keep on keepin' on and tear up the NHL camp too. Does that actually get them a spot in a productive role on the '19-20 Preds? Or are they just in depth/pressbox roles? In which case, I can imagine the Preds just keeping their incumbents in those lesser roles and assigning Pitlick and Tolvanen to tear apart the AHL instead.

At least, that's the way I'm conditioned to think about. If things went down differently, that'd be great. Just I don't exactly see it.

I think I might actually want to see them both sent to mil to start the season and see if they can tear up the league if they are paired together.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I think I might actually want to see them both sent to mil to start the season and see if they can tear up the league if they are paired together.

Tear up the prospects tourney. Tear up the NHL pre-season. Tear up the first 15-20 games in Milwaukee. There is no harm in that AFAIC.

 

[Kebs]

https://nhl.bamcontent.com/images/assets/binary/309062188/binary-file/file.pdf

Roster for camp

 

[BigFatCat999]

https://nhl.bamcontent.com/images/assets/binary/309062188/binary-file/file.pdf

Roster for camp

56 well damn that screws up my plans for 52 cars pickup

 

[Flgatorguy87]

We are only a few days away from something that resembles hockey. The final countdown.

 

[BigFatCat999]

So, the overreaction is...

Tolvanen on the 1st line
Pitlick to 3rd
Davies is 2nd pairing
Fabbro is Blum v2.0

What I'd like to see...

Tolvanen to 2nd line LW pushing Granlund to 2nd line RW.
Pitlick is the extra forward
Davies to Milwaukee
Fabbro to 3rd pairing RHD

Reality...

Tolvanen to the 3rd line
Pitlick in Milwaukee
Davies to Milwaukee
Fabbro 2nd pairing RHD

 

[braindead]

I think reality has Tolvanen in Milwaukee also.

 

[GoldOnGold]

I think reality has Tolvanen in Milwaukee also.

I agree. If Tolvanen doesn't fit in the top-6 for the Preds he'll be on the 1st line in Milwaukee for sure.

 

[cjerina]

I think reality has Tolvanen in Milwaukee also.

Hot take: If the prospects look decent enough, I think we'll see a handful of players waived but not necessarily assigned to Milwaukee immediately. This would allow Poile to assign either a "veteran" or a waiver-exempt player.

Random question: How many veterans do the Admirals have under contract? (Aka players like Tinordi, who is a NSH contract, but in no way is going to play for NSH this year)

edit: Looks like these would be the potential "vets" in Milwaukee, where we can only dress 6 them:
F: Pendenza, Schneider, Gaudreau, Carr, Grimaldi (realistically, there's no way, the last 3 are all waived simultaneously)
D: Tinordi, Donovan, Irwin

 

[INDhockeyfan]

Tolvenan will have to impress in camp. I think Gaudreau will be waived as we have way too many centers. If Tolvenan makes the team then it will probably be Salomaki who goes.

 

[BigFatCat999]

Tolvenan will have to impress in camp. I think Gaudreau will be waived as we have way too many centers. If Tolvenan makes the team then it will probably be Salomaki who goes.

Agreed, I can see 7 forwards fighting for 2 spots; The Cursed family of Grimaldi, The (somehoow) forelorn son that is Tolvanen, Carr, Pitlick, Gaudreau, Salomaki, Richard

 

[OldFan]

Agreed, I can see 7 forwards fighting for 2 spots; The Cursed family of Grimaldi, The (somehoow) forelorn son that is Tolvanen, Carr, Pitlick, Gaudreau, Salomaki, Richard

If it’s me, I think I would go for Tolvanen, Pitlick and Carr; waiving Gaudreau, Salomaki and Grimaldi. I mean, let the rookies play; what the heck. I’ve seen Gaudreau, Salomaki and Grimaldi. And it wasn’t all that impressive.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I think it also depends at least a little on planned utilization. I mean, I don't think Tolvanen or Pitlick are best-served playing 10 minutes on the 4th line or alternating in the pressbox. They might as well be playing 1st line and 20 minutes a night in all key situations in Milwaukee. Whereas Salomaki and Grimaldi are totally fine to play on a 4th line or sit in the pressbox.

What I want to see is the minute we have an opening on the wings in our top-6, that's when Tolvanen comes up and that's where he plays.

Maybe a bit of leeway on that if we try to run a semi-scoring 3rd line as well. But ideally he only comes up if he's going to get a legit chance in a scoring role.

 

[triggrman]

If it’s me, I think I would go for Tolvanen, Pitlick and Carr; waiving Gaudreau, Salomaki and Grimaldi. I mean, let the rookies play; what the heck. I’ve seen Gaudreau, Salomaki and Grimaldi. And it wasn’t all that impressive.

why Carr over Grimaldi?

 

[Scoresberg]

why Carr over Grimaldi?

Yeah, I think dude has earned every right to be ahead of everyone else right now for that 4LW spot. I really liked what I saw from him last year, and now hope that he can build on the season he had last year and get an extended look on a scoring line.

 

[OldFan]

why Carr over Grimaldi?

Only that I’ve seen Grimaldi(and I do like his fire) and have not seen Carr. Probably a bad reason but the down side is only 2 things. One is Grimaldi gets picked up on waivers or we can call him back up and send Carr down if he’s a bust.
Both possibilities are ok.
But I could certainly go with Grimaldi depending on his camp and Carr’s camp.