Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

[IrishInOntario]

Just so you are aware, this league does have a Salary Cap.

Took the words out of my mouth lol. I was about to ask what world he was living in where the salary cap was $100+ million right now.

 

[Gallagbi]

TB offered Stamkos 3 million a year for 7 years lol. f*** that.

They offered a deal until the age of 42

I doubt they expect him to play it out. What are we thinking the cap hit would be with him demoted in ~ 3 years?

 

[Dreakmur]

I'm still not sure what McMann is so I'm not sure he's better than Robertson and those other two are 4th liners with some positional flexibility

Cowan is coming but he's not here yet, Grebyonkin plays on the right I think and so does Domi

I think there's still a place for him

I don't think Cowan is ready, but he's in a tough spot where he cannot be sent to the AHL. That basically forces him into the starting lineup.

The guys ahead of him are only half the problem. He just doesn't really fit. He doesn't play a style that gels with either Matthews or Tavares. He can't play a defensive role.

 

[stickty111]

Leafs should easily do that. They need more darts in the top 90

But knowing them they will do it last second for a measly 4th or something.

I still hope they can pawn off a few role players for mid round picks... Looking very unlikely yet again.

I miss the time when my GM was active on draft day in terms of moving up or down. Something tells me Brad won't be as active.

 

[TheDoldrums]

TB offered Stamkos 3 million a year for 7 years lol. f*** that.

They offered a deal until the age of 42

Signing 34 year olds to crazy long deals is the new cap circumvention. They go on LTIR the last few years and keep getting paid into their 40s while the cap hit disappears.

This is what I want to do with Tanev

 

[JKG33]

I'd be absolutely shocked if Stamkos went to Toronto

 

[stickty111]

I hope Brad doesn't fall for the Zadorov appeal. Let someone else overpay him.

 

[darrylsittler27]

i think the ducks want marner

Let's make no mistake, someone does. Tre has some clout.

 

[ErnieLeafs]

Zadorov wanted to come here when he went to Vancouver. He's almost certainly signing here.

 

[JKG33]

I'm torn on Zads. He's a nice #3, fun player. But he's the wrong handedness and that contract will be ugly

 

[IrishInOntario]

For those that know the details of the CBA better than I do, I assume there is a rule in place stopping actions like the following, but can someone please confirm?

Is there any way you can offer a guy like Stamkos 4.5 million × 7 years, then front end as much money as possible, with a handshake agreement that he'll leave the last couple years of the money on the table and ride off into retirement?

2024: 5.6
2025: 5.6
2026: 5.6
2027: 5.6
Handshake to retire
2028: 3.033
2029: 3.033
2030: 3.033

I understand that the salary in any year can't exceed the salary in the first year by more than 25% and that the salary in no year can be 60% less than that of another year...

 

[BayStBullies]

Issue has been who is going to play with Rielly. We’ve only been asking this question for the past decade

Maybe they finally trade him and focus on improvement.

 

[JKG33]

For those that know the details of the CBA better than I do, I assume there is a rule in place stopping actions like the following m, but can someone please confirm?

Is there any way you can offer a guy like Stamkos 4.5 million × 7 years, then front end as much money as possible, with a handshake agreement that he'll leave the last of couple years of the money on the table and ride off into retirement?

2024: 5.6
2025: 5.6
2026: 5.6
2027: 5.6
Handshake to retire
2028: 3.033
2029: 3.033
2030: 3.033

I understand that the salary in any year can't exceed the salary in the first year by more than 25% and that the salary in no year can be 60% less than that of another year...

The best we could hope for is LTIRretired (Robidas Island).

 

[TheDoldrums]

Yeah I would be less resistant to Zadorov if he were RHD. And he can't play that side.

I think if they get him it's probably McCabe on his wrong side pretty consistently.

 

[ErnieLeafs]

They're looking for 2 defensemen. It's been widely reported. They're absolutely signing an RHD. We need two top-4 guys. I think we get it done. Not concerned

 

[TheDoldrums]

If they miss on Roy, Carrier would be a good fallback option. Not big but very good defensively, strong on the PK.

 

[Rare Jewel]

If 3 of your 6 D men are McCabe, Zadorov and Benoit the other 3 boys better be very mobile because transition is not their strong suit nor is putting up numbers which is an issue.

Which is why I hope Tre is in on Kylington.

 

[JKG33]

If 3 of your 6 D men are McCabe, Zadorov and Benoit the other 3 boys better be very mobile.

Yea I mean if Montour is the other signing and Liljgren stays that's not the worst group in the world. I don't love it but not awful

 

[Smif]

Gimme Matt Roy beside Rielly for the next 5 years. They can be the 22+ min a night pairing and then everything gets easier after that.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Well, count me in the 10% that wanted him here.

That may be true, but even you called it "a nice trade" in the Kadri trade thread. I don't even say that as some type of gotcha. I think people genuinely have forgotten how they felt back then. I loved Kadri while he was here, but the same issues with him still exist, and he has new ones of being older and on a bad contract.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Yea I mean if Montour is the other signing and Liljgren stays that's not the worst group in the world. I don't love it but not awful

I like Montour, but that would be 3 big addition at a lot of money and term which I'd be very wary of.


Which is why Marino is such an appealing option via trade. Less term and a very manageable cap h

Ideally I'd go for

Rielly - Marino (or Roy if he'll come to Canada)
Kylington/McCabe - Carrier or Montour (possibly McCabe)
Benoit/Kylington - Myers/Niemela/Mattinen/?

 

[hamzarocks]

Gimme Matt Roy beside Rielly for the next 5 years. They can be the 22+ min a night pairing and then everything gets easier after that.

Roy is a worse 2020 Brodie

Hes fine but hell be a guy who will decline hard and fast in 2-3 years as his skating and physical abilities die out

Not much puck creativity, shooting talent or offense either

Him, tanev, or Zadorov should be target #3

Skeji, Montour target # 2

Theodore target 1 via trade

 

[ErnieLeafs]

Roy is a worse 2020 Brodie

Hes fine but hell be a guy who will decline hard and fast in 2-3 years as his skating and physical abilities die out

Not much puck creativity, shooting talent or offense either

Him, tanev, or Zadorov should be target #3

Skeji, Montour target # 2

Theodore target 1 via trade

We're trying to be realistic

 

[hamzarocks]

We're trying to be realistic

Realstic means year # 9 wasted

Its running the core 4, and adding brodie 2.0

 

[Kiwi]

I don't think Cowan is ready, but he's in a tough spot where he cannot be sent to the AHL. That basically forces him into the starting lineup.

The guys ahead of him are only half the problem. He just doesn't really fit. He doesn't play a style that gels with either Matthews or Tavares. He can't play a defensive role.

Your correct to a certain extent but he still provides scoring lower down the lineup, he can be the goalscorer on a line Matthew's or JT aren't centering and he's still young so there's upside to