Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches

[Commander Clueless]

Also the burn your bridges move. Not exactly smart.

A lot of people have been clamouring for all in. I think that's it, if rumors are to be believed.

But yes we will likely regret it.


But maybe not!


But probably.

 

[DougGilmour93]

A lot of people have been clamouring for all in. I think that's it, if rumors are to be believed.

But yes we will likely regret it.


But maybe not!

What rumours?

 

[SprDaVE]

A lot of people have been clamouring for all in. I think that's it, if rumors are to be believed.

But yes we will likely regret it.


But maybe not!

If we're going all in, might as well target areas of he team that needs help like C and RHD. Not sure a RW is at all what this team needs regardless of how good the player is. And Rantanen hasn't exactly dominated or anything either.

 

[Commander Clueless]

What rumours?

The Kypreos rumours of the Leafs considering Rantanen. McMann, Cowan, pick if I recall?

If we're going all in, might as well target areas of he team that needs help like C and RHD. Not sure a RW is at all what this team needs regardless of how good the player is. And Rantanen hasn't exactly dominated or anything either.

I hear ya for sure. Just not sure anything is available at those slots.

Seems like a weird deadline. Not a ton of sellers.

 

[nuck]

I think I still want Murphy from Chicago. The Hawks are awful and Murphy has been stapled to Vlasic the last couple of years who is himself an awful defenseman. For those that care, his advance stats away from Vlasic are noticeably better. Hawks are out of retention slots for this year but they could involve a 3rd team for that. But do they want to move him now they have dealt Jones?

As far as a C I am still on the anyone but Schenn team, but Dreakmur has convinced me that Pageau might be better than some others. He has only 1 more season at $5M so not a rental but not a boat anchor either. Good on the dot and while he doesn't produce like an ideal #3, offense doesn't die on his stick either and I think he could prosper away from whatever is strangling all the offense on the Island. He is only pacing for 40pts but that is on an offensively challenged club, under 17:00 a night, and how much more than 40pts do you expect from a #3? PKs and he plays with contact. And he doesn't have to become the guy he was 2 years ago to add value.

 

[BurnTheBoats]

Would you guys make these deals?

Trade breakdown
Nyquist went for a 2nd
with 50% retention.
Gallagher has injury issues and obviously a higher cap hit plus an extra two years of term, so lets say for the first year it costs us Dewar, 2nd + 7th(for the extra cap retention), second year we give them Abruzzese, third year they get Kampf.

We send another team a 4th-5th to retain another 50% we get him for 1.625M x3 years

Gallagher(50% retained x2)

For

2nd round
4th or 5th round
7th round
Abruzzese
Kampf
Dewar

or

Marchand(50% retained x2)

For

2nd round
Kampf
Dewar


Tanev(50% retained)

For

4th round


Murphy(50% retained x2)

For

3rd round
5th round
Timmins
Reaves


Gudas(50% retained x2)

For

2nd round
6th round
Myers

Traded
2nd round
2nd round
3rd round
4th round
4th round or 5th
5th round
6th round
7th round

Getting back
Gallagher x3years for 1.625M
Tanev x1year 1.750M
Murphy x2years for 1.1M
Gudas x2years for 1M

Keep in mind there's a strong chance Tanev resigns for a hometown discount....no key players traded on our roster nor the depth chart/prospect pool, we're out 8-picks lets say 25% of them work out thats 2-players lost...can easily be replaced with free agent signings in the future or getting lucky with the remaining draft picks.
Steeves and Knies would have to be sent down until the playoffs for cap, unless someone gets injured.

Playoff roster
Marchand-Matthews-Marner
or
Gallagher-Matthews-Marner
Knies-Tavares-Nylander
McMann-Domi-Jarnkrok
Pacioretty-Lorentz-Tanev
Robertson-Holmberg-Steeves

Rielly-Gudas
McCabe-Tanev
Ekmam-Larsson-Murphy
Benoit-Hakanpaa

Stolarz
Woll

 

[thusk]

I think I still want Murphy from Chicago. The Hawks are awful and Murphy has been stapled to Vlasic the last couple of years who is himself an awful defenseman. For those that care, his advance stats away from Vlasic are noticeably better. Hawks are out of retention slots for this year but they could involve a 3rd team for that. But do they want to move him now they have dealt Jones?

As far as a C I am still on the anyone but Schenn team, but Dreakmur has convinced me that Pageau might be better than some others. He has only 1 more season at $5M so not a rental but not a boat anchor either. Good on the dot and while he doesn't produce like an ideal #3, offense doesn't die on his stick either and I think he could prosper away from whatever is strangling all the offense on the Island. He is only pacing for 40pts but that is on an offensively challenged club, under 17:00 a night, and how much more than 40pts do you expect from a #3? PKs and he plays with contact. And he doesn't have to become the guy he was 2 years ago to add value.

what are you talking about ?!?!?! Vlasic is a better dman than murphy... The reason he having better advanced stats without is only he didn't had to face top line away of Vlasic...

 

[Ianturnedbull]

I need tradesssssssss!!!!!

 

[BurnTheBoats]

what are you talking about ?!?!?! Vlasic is a better dman than murphy... The reason he having better advanced stats without is only he didn't had to face top line away of Vlasic...

Actually Murphy has been top 25 in hits and blocked shots for 5+ years somthing we should value, Vlasic's advanced stats aren't even close besides his offensive upside again somthing we dont need.
Also Murphy has played teams top lines the last few years, he's potentially better then McCabe and they have a history playing together....he would slot in as our #2 shutdown defenseman stats dont lie...Vlasic #5

 

[Roo]

If we're going all in, might as well target areas of he team that needs help like C and RHD. Not sure a RW is at all what this team needs regardless of how good the player is. And Rantanen hasn't exactly dominated or anything either.

C and RHD is all we need. I think looking at other positions is counter-productive at this point. I’m of the opinion we want to be all in on solving those two needs.

I think I still want Murphy from Chicago. The Hawks are awful and Murphy has been stapled to Vlasic the last couple of years who is himself an awful defenseman. For those that care, his advance stats away from Vlasic are noticeably better. Hawks are out of retention slots for this year but they could involve a 3rd team for that. But do they want to move him now they have dealt Jones?

As far as a C I am still on the anyone but Schenn team, but Dreakmur has convinced me that Pageau might be better than some others. He has only 1 more season at $5M so not a rental but not a boat anchor either. Good on the dot and while he doesn't produce like an ideal #3, offense doesn't die on his stick either and I think he could prosper away from whatever is strangling all the offense on the Island. He is only pacing for 40pts but that is on an offensively challenged club, under 17:00 a night, and how much more than 40pts do you expect from a #3? PKs and he plays with contact. And he doesn't have to become the guy he was 2 years ago to add value.

Both are intriguing. Pageau gives us a righty draw which we don’t have. I can’t say I’ve watched a lot of Connor Murphy, but he had the size and strength we need back there. Another interesting name that’s been brought up is Brandon Carlo. Not sure the B’s would deal him to us, but he similarly fits the bill and is younger.

 

[nuck]

Re: Carlo I just get the feeling divisional opponents are going to grind more on the cost. Maybe thats illogical.

 

[thusk]

Actually Murphy has been top 25 in hits and blocked shots somthing we should value, Vlasic's advanced stats aren't even close besides his offensive upside again somthing we dont need.
Also Murphy has played teams top lines the last few years, he's potentially better then McCabe and they have a history playing together....he would slot in as our #2 shutdown defenseman stats dont lie

The same avanced stats who was telling liljegren was an amaizing D better than McCabe and was the 7th wonder of the world. Avanced stats saying absolutly nothing when you don't know how to use it.

Murphy is in the same category of Manson, a great 4th D in a good team and for me Vlasic is a kind of Hampus Lindholm... The issue i had with murphy is i think leafs would need to overpay to get him especially now they traded Jones. Honestly not sure if he would bring much more than a savard for 20-25% of the price.

 

[nuck]

what are you talking about ?!?!?! Vlasic is a better dman than murphy... The reason he having better advanced stats without is only he didn't had to face top line away of Vlasic...

They are a pair this year except Murphy missed 13 games. Last season he was mostly with Jones whos numbers were also better away from him. Murphy has 37% OZ starts compared to Vlasic 43.4 this year. Maybe AV plays some tougher minutes but not many. He does pk more.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

According to my sources leafs have interest in Evans & Armia as well as DAL, NJD, WPG and EDM.

 

[BertCorbeau]

I like Evans but he might command a price I’d rather not pay

 

[hamzarocks]

Knies, Minten, ‘26 first for Robert Thomas

It be a crazy deal but id try to add Cowan + 2027 1st instead of Knies to see what STL says

I'd deal Knies in the summer IF he wants to much and we can convert him into a surefire top pairing D for next 10 years

STL wont be trading Thomas though so its mostly fantasy

 

[Roo]

Re: Carlo I just get the feeling divisional opponents are going to grind more on the cost. Maybe thats illogical.

I would assume our price would be higher for us, but he’d come with two more years so could be worth it still if he is available.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Re: Carlo I just get the feeling divisional opponents are going to grind more on the cost. Maybe thats illogical.

Unfortunately if Boston and Montreal are selling, they have some excellent pieces that would fit kind of perfectly....


I would give up a lot for Carlo.

Can they send us Geekie too?


You know any assets we send to Boston are going to bite us in the derriere, but those two would be awesome for us....

 

[thusk]

They are a pair this year except Murphy missed 13 games. Last season he was mostly with Jones whos numbers were also better away from him. Murphy has 37% OZ starts compared to Vlasic 43.4 this year. Maybe AV plays some tougher minutes but not many. He does pk more.

I gave exemple of Lindholm/ Manson in anaheim because that looking similar.

Vlasic is a better all around D like Lindholm
Murphy is exclusively a big shutdown physical D who bring nothing offensively

But both playing in a trash team so they are not in really good position to really look good but don't underated Vlasic for this reason.

At good price im not against the idea of murphy as 4th D but i don't expect to be the case.

 

[DougGilmour93]

What does it take to get Frederic?

 

[Kiwi]

My God this is painful

DO SOMETHING, I'm enjoying this about as much as a kick I the pills with a steel toe boot

 

[Maple Leaf]

My God this is painful

DO SOMETHING, I'm enjoying this about as much as a kick I the pills with a steel toe boot

Run it back!

 

[WildWolfdog]

It be a crazy deal but id try to add Cowan + 2027 1st instead of Knies to see what STL says

I'd deal Knies in the summer IF he wants to much and we can convert him into a surefire top pairing D for next 10 years

STL wont be trading Thomas though so its mostly fantasy

Leafs aren't going to be trading Knies so any deal involving him is a non-starter, imo

 

[Schennanigans]

Blues are not gonna trade any big pieces from their team. They’re barely out of a playoff spot. The chance of Schenn getting traded right now is very low. That and they are simply asking way too much.

 

[Commander Clueless]

My God this is painful

DO SOMETHING, I'm enjoying this about as much as a kick I the pills with a steel toe boot

Pace yourself my friend.

Deadline is Friday. Going to be a long week at this rate.