Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches

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Hmmm someone didn't read the trades nor did they break everything down before making a comment🤣

If were talking about draft picks
Haha, he traded away
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2nd
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And got back
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I will make it easy for you🤣
6 first rounds out- 3 back
8 second rounds out- 4 back
7 third rounds out- 5 back
4 fourth rounds out- 4 back
2 fifth rounds out- 0 back
2 sixth rounds out- 1 back
3 seventh rounds out- 2 back

Thats a net loss of 13-picks🤮

And dont even get me started on his trades he has maybe 2 good moves, the rest are complete teee rash

And that Toffoli trade is still screwin them over as they give up the 1st round pick to montreal this year if its top-10🤣gave up Heineman, plus this year's 5th for a player that played one and a half seasons.

Wow he traded a first and two seconds for Hamilton that's his biggest move, besides that everything is mediocre or they took a loss
Oh god that's terrible. Net loss of 13 picks when he got that franchise Hamilton by giving up a 1st and 2 2nds when he got 2 2nd round picks for Glencross and Baertschi a few months prior to the Hamilton trade. Then his other big trade by getting Hanifin and Lindholm for a prospect that wasn't gonna sign in Canada and Ferland who I believe had a history with concussions and only played 1 season in Carolina. So they gave up 2 nothing players for them with Hamilton being the main piece to get a top pair d man who was 21 at the time and a guy who was their #1C for all his years there. Only trade I'd say was bad was the Hamonic because he was a very inconsistent player for what he gave up for him. very other trade are just nothing trades.

Toffoli trade really screwing them still? Really? Just couldn't notice the 1st round pick he got for Calgary in that same draft? At least when he's giving up 1st round picks he's getting top 6 forwards or a top pair defender in return that are still young. Would you prefer he go the route of giving out 1sts for old depth players?

Stop whining about a net loss of 13 picks when a majority of those picks are nothing picks or got very good players in return.
 
FANTASY TRADE SCENARIO

To Toronto-
McBain
Kesselring

To Utah-
Kampf
Minten
Niemela
2nd Round Pick

To Toronto-
Tanev

To Seattle-
Jarnkrok
3rd Round Pick

To Toronto-
Rantanen

To Carolina-
Domi
Cowan
Danford
1st Round Pick

Knies-Matthews-Nylander
Rantanen-Tavares-Marner
Mcmann-Mcbain-Tanev
Lorentz-Holmberg-Robertson
Steeves

McCabe- Tanev
Rielly-Kesselring
OEL-Myers
Timmins
I don't see Utah wanting a futures package for anyone. I think they'll want to package some shit up for someone good. Maybe Rantanen?
 
Brayden Schenn (at full cap hit) for Calle Jarnkrok + David Kampf + 2026 1st rd. pick

Brayden Schenn (at 4.5M) for David Kampf + Fraser Minten + 2026 1st rd. pick

Brayden Schenn (at 3.25M) for David Kampf + Fraser Minten + 2026 1st rd. pick + 2025 2nd rd. pick
Can't we keep Kampf for the playoffs? In case we lose a centre to injury. Trade away some wingers instead.
 
If we are sticking with Marner with Matthews. There’s not really room for Domi. Would rather trade him over Jarnkrok if they’re the cap dump
 
Lets look past this season, and see what we're working with if we dont trade away prospects.

Complete overhaul, next season should be the year we bring up some of these young guys and see what they have to offer.

If we can get Schenn retained twice we're able to keep him & Domi plus send Cowan down to build, otherwise we would have to fill that roster spot with an extra or Cowan and move one of Domi, Schenn for picks

Centers
Matthews
Cowan or Schenn
Tavares(sign 6.5M Max)
Domi or Schenn

Left wing
Steeves
Robertson
Knies
McMann

Right wing
Marner
Nylander
Jarnkrok
Lorentz

Extras
Holmberg
Abruzzese
Minten
Hirvonen
Walker

Left defense
Rielly
McCabe
Ekmam-Larsson

Right defense
Parayko?
Tanev
Schenn/Gudas/Murphy

Extras
Benoit
Niemela
Timmins or Mattinen
Kokkonen

If were comparing this to our current roster the breakdown.

Cowan = Kampf
Steeves = Pacioretty
Hirvonen = Dewar
Minten = Reaves
Niemela = Hakanpaa
Mattinen = Myers
Abruzzese
Walker

Huge upgrades if we dont move any of these prospects, depending on how our left wingers & rd develop....even if half of these guys work out, we just need one rd and maybe one left winger in the top6.

Our main threat for this trade deadline should be for a young top rd with term and no prospects should be moved besides picks to acquire this player.

Also guys like Dewar, Kampf, Myers, Reaves, Mattinen can be moved for upgrades and if Tanev is out until the playoffs this obviously gives us an additional 4.5M on the cap....total available cap with all the players posted traded and Tanev on ltir plus possibly moving Timmins is 11.3M to acquire a top rd and possibly a few guys upfront and someone to replace Tanev until he's out(Schenn,Gudas,Murphy)

If we brought in Parayko & Walker for a first and two seconds, that leaves us with 3M in cap....we trade for Tanev's replacement with 50% retention if we are targeting one of Schenn(1.375M), Gudas(2M), Murphy(2.2M) gives us options....Luke would free up 1.625M, Gudas 1M & Murphy 800k

Keep in mind though we could send down Steeves & Knies until the playoffs and free up another 1.7M

If we go that route and it makes the most sense regardless of not having these guys for a month, we could have a roster that looks like this to close out the season, without moving any key peaces besides draft picks...we could still fit both Schenn brothers under cap if there 50% retained but we would need another team to take on another 50% so his contact works out to 1.625M per year otherwise one of him or Domi will need to be moved in the off-season.

Pacioretty-Matthews-Marner
Nylander-Taveres-Jarnkrok
Robertson-Schenn-Domi
Walker-Lorentz-McMann
Holmberg

Rielly-Parayko
McCabe-Schenn
Ekmam-Larsson-Benoit

Signing Tavares next year to lets say the max 6.5M, that gives us 4.5M to sign Marner lets say plus 3M on what he's making now we're left with 7.5M to resign Knies, Robertson, Lorentz, Steeves, Abruzzese, Holmberg, Mattinen or Timmins

Playoff roster
Schenn-Matthews-Marner
Nylander-Taveres-Jarnkrok
Steeves-Domi-knies
Walker-Lorentz-McMann
Robertson-Holmberg-Pacioretty

Rielly-Parayko
McCabe-Tanev
Ekmam-Larsson-Schenn
Benoit-Timmins


Parayko
Walker
Schenn(50% retained x2)

For

1st round 2026
2nd round 2028
2nd round 2027
3rd round 2026
4th round 2026
5th round 2025
Mattinen
Dewar
Kampf
Myers

Trade breakdown
Parayko + Walker = 1st, 2nd, 2nd, Mattinen, Myers
Schenn = Dewar, Kampf, 3rd
50% retention = 4th
50% retention(second team) = 5th
 
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Oh god that's terrible. Net loss of 13 picks when he got that franchise Hamilton by giving up a 1st and 2 2nds when he got 2 2nd round picks for Glencross and Baertschi a few months prior to the Hamilton trade. Then his other big trade by getting Hanifin and Lindholm for a prospect that wasn't gonna sign in Canada and Ferland who I believe had a history with concussions and only played 1 season in Carolina. So they gave up 2 nothing players for them with Hamilton being the main piece to get a top pair d man who was 21 at the time and a guy who was their #1C for all his years there. Only trade I'd say was bad was the Hamonic because he was a very inconsistent player for what he gave up for him. very other trade are just nothing trades.

Toffoli trade really screwing them still? Really? Just couldn't notice the 1st round pick he got for Calgary in that same draft? At least when he's giving up 1st round picks he's getting top 6 forwards or a top pair defender in return that are still young. Would you prefer he go the route of giving out 1sts for old depth players?

Stop whining about a net loss of 13 picks when a majority of those picks are nothing picks or got very good players in return.
Umm 7 picks in the top 2 rounds of the draft for Hamilton is Bad sorry buddy but anyone with common sense would tell you his track record is below average, we are the number one hockey organization in the world we should have the best representing us...sorry to burst you're bubble but this isn't about liking or disliking somone its about winning, and history shows that he could really screw everything up and put our most successful rebuild in decades to shame, Dubas didn't help nor did Lou by speeding up the rebuild but come on this guys our savior...its a joke
 
Nah. Would rather keep Minten at those prices.
I would take Ryan Strome ahead of Schenn. Two years younger, $1.5M cheaper, and I'll bet Pasadena native Robertson could have more value to the Ducks than any other team in the league. Schenn is a better center but I don't know that he will outscore Strome. I want ROR or Cozens but if they aren't possible than Strome and add a better D with the assets the club saves. I'm not sure Laughton is a center and there isn't much else out there.
 
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Brayden Schenn (at full cap hit) for Calle Jarnkrok + David Kampf + 2026 1st rd. pick

Brayden Schenn (at 4.5M) for David Kampf + Fraser Minten + 2026 1st rd. pick

Brayden Schenn (at 3.25M) for David Kampf + Fraser Minten + 2026 1st rd. pick + 2025 2nd rd. pick

If the Blues would take that first one, I’d do it quite easily.
 
Prediction Contest

The first trade will happen on Sunday.

To Toronto
Luke Schenn

To Nashville
Nicolas Robertson

The second trade will happen on deadline day.

To Toronto
Brayden Schenn at 50% (retained by Anaheim and St. Louis)

To St. Louis
1st round pick in 2026, and Fraser Minton
Conditional 4th round pick

To Anaheim
Alex Steeves
 
I'd like to see him off the Habs first, he wasn't that bad on another terrible team in the Coyotes

Put him on a team with some talent, see what's there

You saw Jarnkrok playing... Don't expect anything more from Dvorak

Umm 7 picks in the top 2 rounds of the draft for Hamilton is Bad sorry buddy but anyone with common sense would tell you his track record is below average, we are the number one hockey organization in the world we should have the best representing us...sorry to burst you're bubble but this isn't about liking or disliking somone its about winning, and history shows that he could really screw everything up and put our most successful rebuild in decades to shame, Dubas didn't help nor did Lou by speeding up the rebuild but come on this guys our savior...its a joke

he gave up 1 st pick 2X 2nd pick and a prospect who didn't want to sign there ----> 2 1st pick a 3rd, a 4th, a young D D+1 who scored 90+ pts in OHL + elite player for 9 years. i dont know how you can even think it was a bad trade by tre... Hamonic was, Hamilton trade had been a steal.
 
I would take Ryan Strome ahead of Schenn. Two years younger, $1.5M cheaper, and I'll bet Pasadena native Robertson could have more value to the Ducks than any other team in the league. Schenn is a better center but I don't know that he will outscore Strome. I want ROR or Cozens but if they aren't possible than Strome and add a better D with the assets the club saves. I'm not sure Laughton is a center and there isn't much else out there.
Been advocating for Strome for months
 
Umm 7 picks in the top 2 rounds of the draft for Hamilton is Bad sorry buddy but anyone with common sense would tell you his track record is below average, we are the number one hockey organization in the world we should have the best representing us...sorry to burst you're bubble but this isn't about liking or disliking somone its about winning, and history shows that he could really screw everything up and put our most successful rebuild in decades to shame, Dubas didn't help nor did Lou by speeding up the rebuild but come on this guys our savior...its a joke
7 picks in the top 2 rounds for Hamilton? What? He got 2 2nd round picks for players that were barely NHLers in Glencross and Baertschi to give away 2 2nd round picks along with a 1st to get a player who was regarded as one of the best offensive d men in the league back then and even to this day. Calgary even picked twice in that 2nd round of that draft year and took Rasmus Andersson and Kylington too. According to your calculations that is a net loss of only 1 pick for 1 of the best offensive d man in the league and apparently at a time when they had plenty of 2nd round picks.

All your post did was show that he'll be aggressive when the player(s) coming back are young top 6 forwards or top 4 D. Is that not what you want from your GM? Sell off useless pieces for whatever picks you can get and go all in if the return is worth it.
 
Leafs should focus on value pickups. Big names at big prices rarely work out.

I like Schenn, but would rather pick up Bennett as a UFA. Better value there IMO. But we don’t need a 2nd line C this spring, we need a 3rd line C. I can only see this move making sense if we don’t bring back Tavares as 2C.
 
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What did we trade for Ryan O’Reilly? I thought was a waste. I was not impressed with him at all. Foligno was damaged goods. Stay the course.
ROR scored the gametying goal in game 3 with under a minute left, won the face-off on the 4-4 goal in game 4. He was pretty good and the Leafs wanted to re-sign him, he just didn't want to stick around

If you get another ROR it's fine. The issue is Brayden Schenn is not a ROR
 
Leafs should focus on value pickups. Big names at big prices rarely work out.

I like Schenn, but would rather pick up Bennett as a UFA. Better value there IMO. But we don’t need a 2nd line C this spring, we need a 3rd line C. I can only see this move making sense if we don’t bring back Tavares as 2C.
Could be a great move for C depth if Mathew’s or JT gets injured and we both know they will. I like this move way better than adding Schenn.
 
I wouldn't be a fan of dealing Minten personally .. I guess it depends how you feel about his upside but he's a pure centre that is close to NHL ready and could fill a value role at cheap cost for awhile.

Is he untouchable? Absolutely not .. but I can't say I'm a fan of moving him for Laughton personally.

Issue is tre hired a new head of scouting away from Dallas. I'd imagine the new hire would much prefer they move out a prospect he doesn't have finger prints on

Not that I think it'll be THE factor in figuring out what assets the Leafs trade, but I'll be genuinely surprised if he has to wait 3 whole draft cycles before he gets to use an1st
 



What coach wouldn't love him as a player to be fair though

I’m glad they aren’t going to get him. Would rather have Bennett if possible this summer. Schenn is a great player but I’m so over them giving up assets year after year. After matthews leaves what’s left? They need to start developing like Dallas has with late 1sts
 

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What coach wouldn't love him as a player to be fair though

His contract is brutal and the Blues seem to want a haul for him.
6.5M for a 40-50 point forward who is declining for 2 more years is crazy. Paying multiple premium assets to take on that deal is extra ridiculous.
If they want to retain 3M and take back Domi sure then I’m interested but that kinda retention would probably cost too much on a player they are already asking a lot for.
 
I don't know what people are expecting? We are all in now not years from
Now when Matthews and Marner are past their primes or gone.
We aren't getting any young top 6 centres, we don't have enough assets or cap space for that.
Brayden Schenn makes the most sense because there will be retention likely and the coach is familiar with him and he's a playoff dog.
We aren't getting Cozens or any sort of C that young with that much potential.
Any other team can beat our packages
 

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