Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches

[ULF_55]

I don't think the Blues would. Don't see the motivation for them to consider a trade unless the buyer really makes it worth their while.

They can just hold onto him and gamble he has an offensive rebound sometime over the next couple seasons.

If the Leafs were settled in going in on him, I'd just keep adding assets until they retain 1-2 mil

Yeah, I think Leafs would be outbid regardless.

Paupers.

 

[ULF_55]

Lets assume that we acquire a RHD to play with Rielly on the second pairing.

Then this bumps OEL down to the third pairing.

Who is everyones choice between Benoit, Timmins or Myers to be the #6?

I could see a case for any of the three players, so interested to hear peoples opinions.

Benoit

None of good, but one will

 

[All Mod Cons]

I mean, our best d-man right now is 35 years old. Tavares is producing at 34 years old. I think he would be a solid addition to our team for the years we have Matthews under contract.

I don't like the price tag either, but I'd like to think if the price of someone like Cozens or Byfield was a first + prospect only, they would have pulled the trigger on that.

I'm willing to bet the teams that have younger solid players are looking for someone like Knies in the deal... I'd much rather trade unknowns then Knies.

That's the thing. Lots of fans as scared about ages. The best dman I've seen play for the Leafs since the lockout is Chris Tanev. And other than potentially Muzzin, it's not even remotely close.

 

[SprDaVE]

This is true. And i think one can make an argument for getting him.

I'm just surprised at folks who are down on JT become so keen on a guy whose worse and just as old

The grass is always greener on the other side for some Leafs fans.

I think B. Schenn makes a lot of sense for what he is. The price thrown around is absurd and he's far too expensive to fit under the cap. More retention = higher price as well. Armstrong knows how to play the media.

 

[SprDaVE]

"According to The Fourth Period's David Pagnotta, the Flyers asked for prospect Fraser Minten in exchange for Laughton. Philadelphia has held a high asking price for the veteran forward at either a first round pick or a top prospect and considering the Leafs don't have a 2025 first round pick, the Flyers went with the latter option."

I wonder if they'd have interest in Greb to pair up with Michkov in the future. I would probably do that if it's close to 1 for 1.

But I'm not as high on Greb as some around here.

 

[Americanadian]

Benoit

None of good, but one will

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Is a difference of 1 hit every ~4 games worth playing someone on their offside?

 

[DarkKnight]

Schenn is on pace for 47 points this year and had 46 points last year. He’s 33 with 3 years left on his contract at 6.5 million.

I kind of like him but I don’t understand why he would be worth much more than a 2nd. He’s bordering on cap dump territory.

It isn’t always just points, especially with a Center. He’s nowhere near cap dump territory, plenty of suitors for that cap hit, for this player. I wouldn’t sell the farm to get him, but a 2nd is a hang up on their end.

 

[ULF_55]

Maybe look at the Sharks, I don't think they're going to make the playoffs.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Nick Robertson for Yanni Gourde.

Blow our load on the beat RHD we can get.

 

[SprDaVE]

It isn’t always just points, especially with a Center. He’s nowhere near cap dump territory, plenty of suitors for that cap hit, for this player. I wouldn’t sell the farm to get him, but a 2nd is a hang up on their end.

9th in SH TOI/G, 6th in PP TOI/G, 10th in TOI/G on the Blues. 2nd in hits, 4 majors (I assume all fights?). 50% on 860 faceoffs taken overall. Last time the Blues were in the playoffs he scored 0 goals in 12 games.

Considering everything, he's definitely not a dump type player but I would not give up a premium at all. A 1st + is a premium package. Hertl was traded with 7 years retention for a 1st and a top prospect. I can't really put my finger on a comparable (age + contract + production + intangibles) but Kevin Hayes was traded for a 6th round pick and he had similar numbers.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Cost for Leafs to acquire Schenn won't be cheap​

According to Johnston/Siegel:

A 1st and a prospect (Minton, Cowen, Grebenkin, Danford)

Plus a sweetener to Blues or other team to eat salary.

 

[Jozay]

if schenn was a leaf kypreos would be saying the leafs need to add a first to get rid of him lol

 

[thewave]

Cost for Leafs to acquire Schenn won't be cheap​

According to Johnston/Siegel:

A 1st and a prospect (Minton, Cowen, Grebenkin, Danford)

Plus a sweetener to Blues or other team to eat salary.

The GM that agrees to remotely close to that amount should just retire now. That's insane, the values not there. It's flat out stupid crazy

 

[DarkKnight]

9th in SH TOI/G, 6th in PP TOI/G, 10th in TOI/G on the Blues. 2nd in hits, 4 majors (I assume all fights?). 50% on 860 faceoffs taken overall. Last time the Blues were in the playoffs he scored 0 goals in 12 games.

Considering everything, he's definitely not a dump type player but I would not give up a premium at all. A 1st + is a premium package. Hertl was traded with 7 years retention for a 1st and a top prospect. I can't really put my finger on a comparable (age + contract) but Kevin Hayes was traded for a 6th round pick and he had similar numbers.

I wouldn’t do a premium either, just responding to the cap dump idea.

 

[Avilaj07]

Knies-Matthews-Nylander
Robertson-Tavares-Marner
Mcmann-Schenn-Domi
Lorentz-Holmberg-Steeves

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Schenn
OEL-Myers

Stolarz
Woll

To Toronto-
Braydon Schenn 50% retained (25% St.Louis, 25% Chicago)

To Blues-
1st Round Pick
Fraser Minton
Ben Danford
David Kampf

To Chicago-
2nd Round Pick

To Toronto-
Luke Schenn 50% retained

To Nashville-
Calle Jarnkrok
Topi Niemela

Waive Reaves and Pacioretty

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Jmo89]

I would only want Schenn if he's part of a larger deal for Parayko. Imo it has the makings of a worse Foligno trade.

Yes the team needs playoff performers and grit, but that's likely not going to come by overpaying for intangibles from 3-4 seasons ago.

I agree with others about Tavares. If you're going to pay assets for Schenn just resign JT for free. He's better offensively and still puts up better numbers. Yes he's a robot in the playoffs but that's why you use your assets on guys in their 20s not their 30s.

 

[Budz]

I would only want Schenn if he's part of a larger deal for Parayko. Imo it has the makings of a worse Foligno trade.

Yes the team needs playoff performers and grit, but that's likely not going to come by overpaying for intangibles from 3-4 seasons ago.

I agree with others about Tavares. If you're going to pay assets for Schenn just resign JT for free. He's better offensively and still puts up better numbers. Yes he's a robot in the playoffs but that's why you use your assets on guys in their 20s not their 30s.

13 million in without Retntion.
Not sure how…

 

[ULF_55]

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He added:

“If the Leafs are able to satisfy the Hurricanes’ trade demands — a package that includes one of their top prospects, Easton Cowan or Fraser Minten, plus Bobby McMann and a draft pick should do it — Rantanen could be the perfect rental player.”

 

[Schennanigans]

Parayko would be an interesting target. Zero interest in Schenn for the price.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I wouldn't have an issue with Danford and a 1st for Schenn but th again I'm not as high on Ben Danford as others, never have been.

I would HATE to do it but I would probably even do Minten and a 1st.

I just think It's time to push our chips all in and make the move.

Matthews
Tavares
Schenn

Looks pretty good to me down the middle

 

[Gabriel426]

If the asking price for Schenn is 1st and Cowan or Minten. They should get Cozens from Sabres.

 

[Jmo89]

13 million in without Retntion.
Not sure how…

You're correct, which is probably why it won't happen. I guess if they empty the cupboards and get retention on Schenn maybe it's possible. It's probably best they just look elsewhere.

 

[Commander Clueless]

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He added:

I would much rather do that deal, even with Rantanen as a rental.

Screw it, extend Rantanen and Marner. Shanny was right all along. The Big 4 RIDES AGAIN.