Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches

[Sypher04]

I would prefer going after Cozens if that’s the ask. But if we’re going to get Schenn. I’d rather trade a Minten out of everyone because he’d probably be blocked for the next 3 year. Would need to get really young at the wing though.

I understand the rationale, I don’t even disagree tbh, but I’d probably rather trade Kampf and play Minten at 4C for his ELC years, or start Minten on the wing even.

To me Danford is by far the lowest potential of the guys we have to put with that 1st

 

[thusk]

We can argue which ones they bought low on.... I'd leave Reinhart off that list...

Reinhart and Montour were from Buffalo... and players that went on to be much better, like everyone who leaves there. Forsling from the same type of thing, but in Chicago. Verhaeghe that nobody wanted.. and they got lucky. Bennett of course, just couldn't get it going offensively in Calgary, good trade there.

But this does highlight, find guys who have potential, that isn't being realized elsewhere. When you do that, you are going to hit, and going to miss at times. These are calculated gambles.

I wanted Weegar, before he put up big points in Florida, and they got good.
I wanted Peeke, and to me it's looking like he's coming around well for Boston, and is an 18 minute a game guy.
I wanted Comtois... looks like I was wrong there.
I wanted Shane Wright last year, and that was right.
I wanted McBain before he took off.
I am talking about Krebs now. Heck I'd do Cozens too... (that cap hit would be difficult though)
How many times did I suggest Kappo Kakko was actually going to be good, and would be a great third liner? 19 points in 27 games for Seattle now. Our friend @thusk said this about Kakko -->
Who care where Kakko will be in 5 year??? he will probably already being in his 3 or 4 team in 5 year, those kind of player are pretty easy to find on market, Puljujarvi is a pretty good exemple. It seems our friend @thusk was wrong about Kakko.... I didn't suggest we trade for him, given our needs are more D and C..

What's matter for the leafs is right now...

Buffalo has proven time and again, that their players can be so much better when they leave that org... and your example is perfect for that. That's a team I'd be scouting hard.

I think Florida did a good job, I think Washington got lucky. I've always thought it's better to trade for younger guys, with control or term, and hope and work to develop untapped upside.

For forwards, I'm still in the camp of find someone younger, with cost control, who isn't meeting expectations in their current situation, and hope they grow here. Krebs, Zegras, Cozens, McTavish... I'm sure there are other names out there, C's that are young, with contracts for some time, or control.... like you say, it's what Florida did... Washington.. I don't really want to give them credit for luck, but it's the same strategy. But, Buffalo, Anaheim.. bad teams not developing players right... it's been a proven way to get contributing players.

@LeafSteel you posted, while I was creating this post... I think we basically agree..

1-Reinhart was playing on buffalo 1st
montour buffalo top 3. When was the last time a bottom 6 player in Buffalo becoming something better somewhere else? The next step for Krebs in Buffalo is be healthy scratch

2-forsling is not a player florida move in hope to change their team, they claim him on waiver from Carolina.

3- Im not against take guest with player like that by exemple claiming him from waiver, giving a shot in the summer ( like bunting) or pretty low price...but you CAN'T trade for Krebs with hope he will be the answer. That's the difference here. For me Krebs is not different than Steeves, give him a chance and watch what he can bring.

4- Yeah i was wrong with Kakko

 

[Stringer Bell]

Schenn is on pace for 47 points this year and had 46 points last year. He’s 33 with 3 years left on his contract at 6.5 million.

I kind of like him but I don’t understand why he would be worth much more than a 2nd. He’s bordering on cap dump territory.

 

[ULF_55]

Schenn is on pace for 47 points this year and had 46 points last year. He’s 33 with 3 years left on his contract at 6.5 million.

I kind of like him but I don’t understand why he would be worth much more than a 2nd. He’s bordering on cap dump territory.

We'll know in a week.

Would you do Kampf and a 2nd.?

 

[Stringer Bell]

We'll know in a week.

Would you do Kampf and a 2nd.?

I would.

 

[Menzinger]

We'll know in a week.

Would you do Kampf and a 2nd.?

I don't think the Blues would. Don't see the motivation for them to consider a trade unless the buyer really makes it worth their while.

They can just hold onto him and gamble he has an offensive rebound sometime over the next couple seasons.

If the Leafs were settled in going in on him, I'd just keep adding assets until they retain 1-2 mil

 

[Menzinger]

I think the argument is that for 1st, prospect you could get another player that maybe a bit better and faster
Brayden Schenn is 33 and relatively slow. He has 33 points this year. Scott Laughton has 27 points

Laughton will not cost you 1st and a prospect..... and doesn't have a 6.5 price tag and 30 years old

Schenn is not the the player he used to be and has another 3 years in his term at 6.5

I think he will cost a 1st, but I still prefer him to Schenn by a fair margin

 

[thewave]

Come on guys. Schenn is a little bit better than Thomas Plekanec lol and has a bunch of years to regress at 6.5m hit.

Plekanec did get us 4pts in 7 game series though. But seriously, the only way you bring him in is to ship out stuff you don't want.

 

[Menzinger]

Come on guys. Schenn is a little bit better than Thomas Plekanec lol and has a bunch of years to regress at 6.5m hit.

Plekanec did get us 4pts in 7 game series though. But seriously, the only way you bring him in is to ship out stuff you don't want.

This is true. And i think one can make an argument for getting him.

I'm just surprised at folks who are down on JT become so keen on a guy whose worse and just as old

 

[weems]

Lets assume that we acquire a RHD to play with Rielly on the second pairing.

Then this bumps OEL down to the third pairing.

Who is everyones choice between Benoit, Timmins or Myers to be the #6?

I could see a case for any of the three players, so interested to hear peoples opinions.

 

[The Management]

Ryan Donato is closing in on twenty goals and forty points. UFA at the end of the year. Doesn't have great numbers on the dot, but if you're keeping Domi around and looking for a bit more goal scoring on the third line, maybe there's a fit?

 

[thusk]

Come on guys. Schenn is a little bit better than Thomas Plekanec lol and has a bunch of years to regress at 6.5m hit.

Plekanec did get us 4pts in 7 game series though. But seriously, the only way you bring him in is to ship out stuff you don't want.

1-Schenn is vetter than plekanec when he played with leafs. A years he had 6 goal, 26 pts in 77 game

2- Plekanec-Marleau-Marner was the best leafs line by a miles... The only line who had been able to slot down and theybdont just slow them down but xompletly shutdown the bergeron-marchand-Pastrnak l...in a year that line was the best NHL line and completly destroyed leafs everytime they played against each other.

 

[thewave]

This is true. And i think one can make an argument for getting him.

I'm just surprised at folks who are down on JT become so keen on a guy whose worse and just as old

Because Maple Leafs fans buy the media hype time and time again. This guy is going to make basically the reported number for JT extension and term!! And and and we need to pay a 1st and a prospect for this?!

No freaking wayyyy. Get your shit together Leafs Nation lol

Schenn v JT same cap. Just sign JT and move on with life. If Schenn also gets rid of dead weight, maybe a deal

 

[jaric1862]

From what the Dreger is saying, it sounds like they're either going to go:

Option A) B. Schenn + a depth defenceman.
Option B) a less impactful C (Laughton/Gourde type) + a more substantial defensive upgrade.

Considering the price to acquire Schenn, I don't see how Option B is a no-brainer.
Obviously, It makes more sense if the price for Schenn is a 1st + B prospect + Cap dump ... but it doesn't sound like that's the case.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Ryan Donato is closing in on twenty goals and forty points. UFA at the end of the year. Doesn't have great numbers on the dot, but if you're keeping Domi around and looking for a bit more goal scoring on the third line, maybe there's a fit?

I’d be leery about him putting up the numbers he has gotten. Career high on a really bad team where he’s getting a lot of minutes and opportunity.

Closer to 2 mins of PP time per game (25% of his points come from there). Does not kill penalties

He’s certainly more physical but I don’t like the premium he’ll get based on this years performance

 

[Hotpot]

Lets assume that we acquire a RHD to play with Rielly on the second pairing.

Then this bumps OEL down to the third pairing.

Who is everyones choice between Benoit, Timmins or Myers to be the #6?

I could see a case for any of the three players, so interested to hear peoples opinions.

Benoit

 

[SprDaVE]

From what the Dreger is saying, it sounds like they're either going to go:

Option A) B. Schenn + a depth defenceman.
Option B) a less impactful C (Laughton/Gourde type) + a more substantial defensive upgrade.

Considering the price to acquire Schenn, I don't see how Option B is a no-brainer.
Obviously, It makes more sense if the price for Schenn is a 1st + B prospect + Cap dump ... but it doesn't sound like that's the case.

Considering the center options and some of the prices thrown around, I'd prefer to do B as well. I am quite a bit worried with Tanev's durability (and recent injury). I think finding another impactful RD would be a significant boost.

If our pro scouting gets it right, we could get an impactful 3rd line center and defenseman though.

 

[Hotpot]

Who's this substantial defensive upgrade that is in option B? If it's similar to how Edmonton got Ekholm, then Leafs should do it

 

[Commander Clueless]

Come on guys. Schenn is a little bit better than Thomas Plekanec lol and has a bunch of years to regress at 6.5m hit.

Plekanec did get us 4pts in 7 game series though. But seriously, the only way you bring him in is to ship out stuff you don't want.

I'm totally on board with bringing Schenn in. Love the player. Heck bring both Schenns in and I'll be tickled pink.

That said, we're still talking about a 45-50 point player making $6.5M for 3 more years at 33 years old. It's going to take moving roster money out to even fit him, and then it sounds like the Blues want a ransom on top of that.

Really sounds like we're dealing from a position of major weakness here. Perhaps not the best idea.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

"According to The Fourth Period's David Pagnotta, the Flyers asked for prospect Fraser Minten in exchange for Laughton. Philadelphia has held a high asking price for the veteran forward at either a first round pick or a top prospect and considering the Leafs don't have a 2025 first round pick, the Flyers went with the latter option."

 

[Burnie97]

Lets assume that we acquire a RHD to play with Rielly on the second pairing.

Then this bumps OEL down to the third pairing.

Who is everyones choice between Benoit, Timmins or Myers to be the #6?

I could see a case for any of the three players, so interested to hear peoples opinions.

Yeah it's Benoit for me. Best for playoff hockey. Especially if he played with OEL. He just needs to be steady in his own end. Which he's capable of.

 

[Magic Man]

Toronto can table a fancy package for Schenn, but the Blues should be retaining a healthy amount to get the top goodies.

 

[Tony Romo]

"According to The Fourth Period's David Pagnotta, the Flyers asked for prospect Fraser Minten in exchange for Laughton. Philadelphia has held a high asking price for the veteran forward at either a first round pick or a top prospect and considering the Leafs don't have a 2025 first round pick, the Flyers went with the latter option."

I think I would’ve done this?

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Toronto can table a fancy package for Schenn, but the Blues should be retaining a healthy amount to get the top goodies.

I'd rather put up a fancy package for Parayko than Schenn.

 

[weems]

Yeah it's Benoit for me. Best for playoff hockey. Especially if he played with OEL. He just needs to be steady in his own end. Which he's capable of.

The only problem with this is you're asking Benoit to play his offside and that could turn out bad.