Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches

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Is he suggesting a Rantanen for Marner swap mid season?

Carolina would probably love that to happen. They want Mitch long term and will pay him. Rant is a dud for them. Dubas would also pay Mitch or maybe even Rant but not sure.
 
Kypreos is on something.

He's been on the money with some stuff since Treliving took over so I don't dismiss him as quickly as I used to

Rantanen would be cool, but I don't see Carolina dealing him to us over shipping him back west to someone like Winnipeg, nor do I see Treliving creative enough to pursue this avenue

Just for fun..

Knies - Matthews - Marner
Rantanen - Tavares - Nylander


Is so stupid
 
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He's been on the money with some stuff since Treliving took over so I don't dismiss him as quickly as I used to

Rantanen would be cool, but I don't see Carolina dealing him to us over shipping him back west to someone like Winnipeg, nor do I see Treliving creative enough to pursue this avenue

Just for fun..

Knies - Matthews - Marner
Rantanen - Tavares - Nylander


Is so stupid

I forgot that Rantanen's salary isn't that high. It's 4.6M so it's do-able. Either way, I don't think the Leafs have the assets to make it happen. Adding another winger to the mix seems WAY overkill.

Is he suggesting a Rantanen for Marner swap mid season?

Nope. Just adding Rantanen now in case Marner walks in the off-season.
 
Kypreos is on something.


As much as it was nice to see him link us to Parayko....it feels like something that is just there to hype up the trade deadline.

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These technically fit on the cap.
 
Not saying he isn’t at some level, nor is he my 1st choice to acquire, but for all these people saying Schenn is in significant decline, is that an informed opinion based on watching him regularly play or just more of the pervasive sentiment around HF that just because a player is now over 30 he must be falling apart? I’d wager in most cases people are just assuming based on watching his stat sheet, while disregarding how much the Blues have tailed off as a hockey team.
 
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Brayden Schenn - (50% retention - 3.25M per for 4 years)

for

David Kampf + Fraser Minten + 2026 1st round pick - (Top-10 Protection - Defers to 2027 Unprotected) + 2025 2nd round pick

Luke Schenn - (50% retention - 1.375M per for 2 years)

for

Conor Timmins + 2025 3rd round pick + 2027 4th round pick

Playoff Roster


Knies - Matthews - Marner
Domi - Tavares - Nylander
McMann - Schenn - Jarnkrok
Lorentz - Dewar - Pacioretty
ex. Robertson - Holmberg - Reaves
Steeves

McCabe - Tanev
Rielly - Schenn
Benoit - OEL
ex. Myers
 
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I'll let him actually do his moves but if they go out in round 1 again, I consider firing him this off-season, he didn't do much last TDL, only tinkered and if he thinks his choices are basically 3 turds at centre...not impressed.

I reference the Knights a lot but they managed to figure out they could get Tomas Hertl...and got him with retention for not a lot and they also acquired Noah Hanifin.
Firing him after less than 2 seasons?
 
I forgot that Rantanen's salary isn't that high. It's 4.6M so it's do-able. Either way, I don't think the Leafs have the assets to make it happen. Adding another winger to the mix seems WAY overkill.



Nope. Just adding Rantanen now in case Marner walks in the off-season.
and at 50% retained.... LOL
 
Will it happen? No.

I just think we have another 3 seasons to do this basically and then Matthews extension is up. All bets are off after that as far as the roster direction goes.

I want him to be going for it.
Faksa on St Louis is currently at 56% on faceoffs, he's a big body C as well
obviously the additional 3.25 cap complicates things though with it expiring retention would be less of an issue
 
Rather hold onto the 1st round pick and prospects and trade for Gorude over Laughton if that's the case, assuming Gourde is going to cost a 2nd round pick.

Also don't understand the Schenn hate, he's far from washed, has term on his contract, and solves a hole for us. I don't love it, but if Toronto gave up a 1st + Other prospects not named Minten or Cowan, it would be fine IMO.

I think Toronto trading for a younger player/center in a big deal is very unlikely considering the uncertainty going forward. If you trade top prospects away and you're not as good going forward, suddenly your a average team with no good prospects.
 
Rather hold onto the 1st round pick and prospects and trade for Gorude over Laughton if that's the case, assuming Gourde is going to cost a 2nd round pick.

Also don't understand the Schenn hate, he's far from washed, has term on his contract, and solves a hole for us. I don't love it, but if Toronto gave up a 1st + Other prospects not named Minten or Cowan, it would be fine IMO.

I think Toronto trading for a younger player/center in a big deal is very unlikely considering the uncertainty going forward. If you trade top prospects away and you're not as good going forward, suddenly your a average team with no good prospects.

Only reason to get Gourde is because he'd be relatively cheap to acquire. A 2nd round pick for a player out until late March and with 2 bad seasons in a row, and a pending UFA... I'd be surprised.

If the Leafs can't get an upgrade for a price they are willing to pay, then they might have to cheap out on Gourde and hope he's good and healthy to be a contributor in the top 9. But if he comes back rusty and clearly not 100%... then it was a waste of time.

I assume you're talking about B. Schenn here -- It's just a tough situation to fit in terms of assets, contract and questionable "upside".
 
Rather hold onto the 1st round pick and prospects and trade for Gorude over Laughton if that's the case, assuming Gourde is going to cost a 2nd round pick.

Also don't understand the Schenn hate, he's far from washed, has term on his contract, and solves a hole for us. I don't love it, but if Toronto gave up a 1st + Other prospects not named Minten or Cowan, it would be fine IMO.

I think Toronto trading for a younger player/center in a big deal is very unlikely considering the uncertainty going forward. If you trade top prospects away and you're not as good going forward, suddenly your a average team with no good prospects.
Schenn plays with Holloway and Kyrou, two of the top forwards on St. Louis, who have 47 and 42 points respectively. Playing with them, Schenn has 34 points, averaging 17:34 per game. He isn't getting much PP time here, though that is really only 5 of his points.

I'm all for trying to get a younger guy, someone like Krebs. Now Krebs actually is more productive/60 than Schenn is. That is mostly playing with guys who have 5 and 9 points on the year...

A guy like Krebs has a lower cap hit, is younger, has years of control, and would cost less to trade for.

And most importantly, is already more productive.
 
Hate trading those firsts. Dallas has done an incredible job with their late 1sts.

Also - they should have just kept Schenn the last time.
 
Will it happen? No.

I just think we have another 3 seasons to do this basically and then Matthews extension is up. All bets are off after that as far as the roster direction goes.

I want him to be going for it.
Agreed. The life cycle of this team will become evident. The will have to consider retooling/building it up at that point.
 
Schenn plays with Holloway and Kyrou, two of the top forwards on St. Louis, who have 47 and 42 points respectively. Playing with them, Schenn has 34 points, averaging 17:34 per game. He isn't getting much PP time here, though that is really only 5 of his points.

I'm all for trying to get a younger guy, someone like Krebs. Now Krebs actually is more productive/60 than Schenn is. That is mostly playing with guys who have 5 and 9 points on the year...

A guy like Krebs has a lower cap hit, is younger, has years of control, and would cost less to trade for.

And most importantly, is already more productive.

Even if its a wash I'd prefer Krebs over Schenn.
 

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