Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches

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He'll re-sign for more in 4 years when the Cap is over $115mm.
If you are Marner and have little playoff success in almost a decade, and know your playoff limits, are you betting on yourself or are you taking guaranteed generational money? I know who I would not bet on.
 
I just don't think leafs having what would interest buffalo for Cozens.
My guess if Cozens was the same player he was in 2022-2023 he isn't available.
This is a rhetorical question, but is it time they rebuilt?

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The only way you want to lose Marner for nothing is if McDavid is in the bag. The sticking point for me is the NMC. He does not deserve big money and protection. 3 years and no or limited NMC would be fine. Anything that allows us to move on.

What D can we grab in FA and how much are they going to cost? Dubas did us so dirty it's not even funny.
 
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Pietrangelo has been the 1D for two different cup winning teams since then. What could have been.
He was the missing piece Toronto needed, a stud defenseman. They didn't even need to trade Nylander for him, could have had him in FA.. One of the bigger "failures" Toronto is going to have if they don't win a cup is not having a true #1 D. Pretty much only way to get them is via draft as no one ever trades them.

In saying that if Buffalo is actually looking at trading Dahlin or Power, that would be the one chance of getting an elite d-man (Power is young, but he's going to be elite elite) IMO
 
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13% * 95 = 12.35
11% * 115 = 12.65

Matthews is probably re-signing at $115mm if projections hold.

115 * 15% = 17.25
All the reports are he wants 13.25+ right now. Again - why are we assuming he’s even worth 10M under a 115M cap at age 32?

How many 32 year old wingers would you sign to 8.5M for term under a 95.5M cap?
 
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He wants $14mx8. Reminder, walking for nothing means we have $22m in cap space to replace him and Tavares. The chicken littles are in full force. He's helped us win 1 playoff series in 8 years FFS and even then I give more credit to Vasi.
If only we could find out how other teams manage to win without having the otherworldly wonder that is Mitch Marner?

How do they possibly manage to compete without such a wonderment in their lineup?

The mind reels at how the Toronto Marner Leafs will manage without him, and hopefully such a catastrophe doesn’t come to pass, and we are able to throw a disproportionate and way out of market contract at the supposed kid from Toronto living his dream of playing for his hometown, while delivering nothing in the playoffs over and over again.

Perish the thought and keep on keeping on….
 

Former '32 Thoughts' co-host Jeff Marek revealed on his show 'The Sheet' that the Maple Leafs nearly made a massive deal involving superstar​

The Toronto Maple Leafs are reaping the benefits of superstar William Nylander's rise to stardom. Coming into this season with back-to-back 40 goal seasons, the Swedish phenom is set to hit that mark again this season, and has been a huge bright spot in a year filled with some very dim moments.

But things could have been much, much different according to NHL Hockey Insider Jeff Marek.

William Nylander Nearly Traded For​

Yup, you read that right. William Nylander was nearly traded to the St. Louis Blues for Alex Pietrangelo.

Marek talked about the deal with former NHL GM and analyst Pierre McGuire:

"You know, it wasn't that long ago before you know, it was pretty close that he was going to St. Louis and Alex Pietrangelo was going the other way with the Toronto Maple Leafs."
Wow! It doesn't say who proposed it or why it fell through, but it sounds like the kind of bad deal Dubas would make.

Really glad it didn't happen.
 
He wants $14mx8. Reminder, walking for nothing means we have $22m in cap space to replace him and Tavares. The chicken littles are in full force. He's helped us win 1 playoff series in 8 years FFS and even then I give more credit to Vasi.
I'm aware, and I don't think his leaving is the end of the world at all. But I'd try to keep the door open to something, but not committing basically the next decade to him and this core.

In the event that he and his camp are set on that 14x8, then you put pressure on him to waive before the deadline even, a la Rantanen.
 
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Wow! It doesn't say who proposed it or why it fell through, but it sounds like the kind of bad deal Dubas would make.

Really glad it didn't happen.

not sure where having a 1D ( something leafs didn't had last 15 year) would a bean bad for leafs?!?!?!

It couldn't be worst than having 1 series won last 6 year ( who's he minimum range for that deal could happen).
 
Wow! It doesn't say who proposed it or why it fell through, but it sounds like the kind of bad deal Dubas would make.

Really glad it didn't happen.
This is peak Leafs fan. I don’t know how you look at Pietrangelo’s career since 2018 and Nylander’s and say you’d prefer Nylander.

1D for 2 cups vs 2RW for 1 series win.
 
I'm aware, and I don't think his leaving is the end of the world at all. But I'd try to keep the door open to something, but not committing basically the next decade to him and this core.

In the event that he and his camp are set on that 14x8, then you put pressure on him to waive before the deadline even, a la Rantanen.
What pressure can they put on him? The cap is going up like a rocket and our leverage is an 8th year he doesn't care about. He will want the short deal max money wherever that is. Taxes factored in naturally of course.

AKA we have not fangs. We are screwed with this player and are lucky Willy went 8.

Actually you know what. They should try and see if he will waive. It's the only way to weed out his true position in a hopeless negotiation scenario. Best hope for lol McDavid to want to come home.
 
Re: Nylander/Pietrangelo

Whether that would have been a good move is heavily dependent on when this is alleged to have happened
2018, so it would likely have been a short-term gain but a long-term loss.

not sure where having a 1D ( something leafs didn't had last 15 year) would a bean bad for leafs?!?!?!

It couldn't be worst than having 1 series won last 6 year ( who's he minimum range for that deal could happen).
We might have won a series in 19 or 20 or 21, but with the team without Nylander it's unlikely we would have won much more. Now Willy is reaching his peak and Petro is declining.

If we could have traded Marner for him that might have been a different story.
 
This is peak Leafs fan. I don’t know how you look at Pietrangelo’s career since 2018 and Nylander’s and say you’d prefer Nylander.

1D for 2 cups vs 2RW for 1 series win.
I mean... that's a poor argument at best... It's making an assumption that Pietrangelo gets those Cups here too... and that's weak...

Of course we'd trade two cups for one series win, but... I mean.. that's just a strange way to choose between players.
 
This is peak Leafs fan. I don’t know how you look at Pietrangelo’s career since 2018 and Nylander’s and say you’d prefer Nylander.

1D for 2 cups vs 2RW for 1 series win.
I would have hated to give up Willie two years after not signing Petro for free. That was the mistake. Comes down to having no cap space to fit him in at the time.
 
I mean... that's a poor argument at best... It's making an assumption that Pietrangelo gets those Cups here too... and that's weak...

Of course we'd trade two cups for one series win, but... I mean.. that's just a strange way to choose between players.
I’m not saying the Leafs would have won. I’m saying that Pietrangelo has been a more important player in the playoffs than Nylander over the last 6 years. Pietrangelo would have been the Leafs best defenseman over that entire period. Nylander has never been the Leafs best forward.
 
I would have hated to give up Willie two years after not signing Petro for free. That was the mistake. Comes down to having no cap space to fit him in at the time.
He had to want to come here first off. I don't know if that was the case
 
He was the missing piece Toronto needed, a stud defenseman. They didn't even need to trade Nylander for him, could have had him in FA.. One of the bigger "failures" Toronto is going to have if they don't win a cup is not having a true #1 D. Pretty much only way to get them is via draft as no one ever trades them.

In saying that if Buffalo is actually looking at trading Dahlin or Power, that would be the one chance of getting an elite d-man (Power is young, but he's going to be elite elite) IMO
Honestly Byrum should be the LEafs's target from this Buffalo team. He has 1D talent he just has never had a path to play that role. First he was blocked by Makar and now Dahlin/Power. Something like Cowan/Minten, Niemala, and a couple of picks for a 50% retained Byrum would do wonders for the Leafs offense.

As for a 3C I wonder why more people don't talk about Jake Evans? 40 point player with no PP time, righthanded shot, over 50% on faceoffs every year in the NHL but one when he was 49.8%, plays 1plus minutes a night. Considering the lack of talent on Mtl his point totals and defensive metrics are impressive. I know a lot of people consider him a 4 C but he has shown he can handle 3 C duties and minutes for over 2 years.
 
So what happened to Cozens?

30 goals a couple years ago, 18 last year and on pace for 15 this year?

Ryan MeLeod has better stats and is $2.1 RFA.
He shot 15% the year he scored 30

Outside of that season he's never shot above 9%
 

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