Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches
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Folignos Helmet
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Maybe you give JT your 3C money and your JT money to Bennett.
It all depends on the playoffs. If we are out early we have to try something different. 8 years of the same.
SprDaVE
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There's a lot of time for the 2nd part to happen...
I also don't hate Treliving at all. If he turns it around, he'll earn praise. He hasn't really done anything.
Starting to lose patience with both Treliving and Berube.
With the flurry of activity already happening, I don't see what Treliving is waiting for. Our needs are specific and clear. We've watched potential 2C/3C's moved, and there already wasn't much to begin with.
We clearly cannot put OEL on RHD and Rielly needs a better partner.
At this point, I'm calling Chicago now for a Ryan Donato/Connor Murphy deal. It make so much sense it hurts. It's not paying a premium, and it fills 2 glaring holes with guys with some term and some upside.
Berube and his lineup decisions are becoming glaringly overly simplistic. His refusal to break up Marner and Matthews despite a shortage of scoring throughout the lineup, particularly down 2 Top 6 players shows , is just beyond comprehension.
You are down 2 Top 6 forwards, and you staple 2 top 3 players together, even though they aren't doing shit together, are entirely too easy to defend, and both become lazy one dimensional players together, and much worse than the dynamic players they are apart. Absolutely ridiculous.
Hanging on to Reaves, forcing Holmberg anywhere/everywhere into the lineup, keeping Steeves on the Marlies, this team doesn't show any creativity nor desire to acknowledge and pivot when things aren’t working.
How are we supposed to have any confidence going into the playoffs that anything different than previous years disappointments are going to continue?
In the interim, we sit and watch players that could have helped us move to teams that aren't even in position the way we are, and we are fine continuing to fit square pegs into round holes and believing we are going to do any kind of damage in the playoffs.
We've always complained about the lack of give a crap from the players. It now feels like it's spread to the Management group as well.
Very frustrating and disappointing to watch. Dubas was an idiot and Keefe was stale, but the "new blood" seems committed to same old same old. Not sure what they think will happen differently if things are left as they are.
Common trades!!!
With the flurry of activity already happening, I don't see what Treliving is waiting for. Our needs are specific and clear. We've watched potential 2C/3C's moved, and there already wasn't much to begin with.
We clearly cannot put OEL on RHD and Rielly needs a better partner.
At this point, I'm calling Chicago now for a Ryan Donato/Connor Murphy deal. It make so much sense it hurts. It's not paying a premium, and it fills 2 glaring holes with guys with some term and some upside.
Berube and his lineup decisions are becoming glaringly overly simplistic. His refusal to break up Marner and Matthews despite a shortage of scoring throughout the lineup, particularly down 2 Top 6 players shows , is just beyond comprehension.
You are down 2 Top 6 forwards, and you staple 2 top 3 players together, even though they aren't doing shit together, are entirely too easy to defend, and both become lazy one dimensional players together, and much worse than the dynamic players they are apart. Absolutely ridiculous.
Hanging on to Reaves, forcing Holmberg anywhere/everywhere into the lineup, keeping Steeves on the Marlies, this team doesn't show any creativity nor desire to acknowledge and pivot when things aren’t working.
How are we supposed to have any confidence going into the playoffs that anything different than previous years disappointments are going to continue?
In the interim, we sit and watch players that could have helped us move to teams that aren't even in position the way we are, and we are fine continuing to fit square pegs into round holes and believing we are going to do any kind of damage in the playoffs.
We've always complained about the lack of give a crap from the players. It now feels like it's spread to the Management group as well.
Very frustrating and disappointing to watch. Dubas was an idiot and Keefe was stale, but the "new blood" seems committed to same old same old. Not sure what they think will happen differently if things are left as they are.
Common trades!!!
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ULF_55
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Both are 3rd. line players, who could replace lessor Leafs.
Gourde 5'9", 174, 33 years old.
Kunin 6', 197, 27 years old.
Face offs
49.9 Gourde
48.2 Kunin
Heh, it's funny that certain players brought us here. I found it in 2008 when I fell in love with Luke Schenn.
Rare Jewel
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He doesn't even get them after the surgery. He signed two Nordic defencemen that had two good legs between them.
StuckOutHere
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Rare Jewel
Patience
SprDaVE
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They have Seguin and now Lundqvist on LTIR and out for the season. Heiskanen also out for a bit. They weren't gonna sit on their hands and do nothing.
I could see them being very interested in Ferraro as well.
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thusk
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If they are not one of favorite what are they?!?!?! they're #1 (win%) in their division, 3rd in the east despite at lot of injury to key player.
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I came here after the Sportsnet boards disappeared. That plays was, interesting.
HolyCrap
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Leafs have won one game past the first round with this version of the team. We’re favourites to bet on losing in the first round. lol.
thusk
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1- Gourde is early 30s, we dont talk about a 37-38 yo player. He can still bring a lot to a team
2-For sure everything depend of the cost
Captain Crunch
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When have the stars ever gotten it done in the playoffs?
If Rielly is hurt, why doesn’t Berube and/or Tre sit him out or put him on IR? He hasn’t even been a top 4 dman this season. We need a top 4 dman, or even someone like Schenn, who played well with him while he was here. But we definitely need some depth scoring, because it has hurt us every playoffs since this core, and maybe more specifically Keefe, has been here. But of course it’s hard to get these type of players with so much tied up in the core.
thusk
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So because of the past, we should forfeit and do nothing?!?!?!
That's a loser mentality and if i would get any gm thinking that way, i would just want to get him fire
Rakell (5m) is on pace for 68 points and Bunting (4.5m) is on pace for 43 points. Matthews (13.25m) is on pace for 87 points. 111 points for 9.5m vs. 87 points for 13.25m? Easy trade! How could anybody be opposed?!?
Let's take this a step further! McDavid is pacing for 122 points, and he costs 12.5m.
If we offer them McMann, Domi, Pacioretty, and Holmberg, they get 123 points for just the low, low price of 7.4m. They won't be able to resist!
I'm not sure you should be accusing others of "hilariously bad takes" when you're not only attempting stuff like this, but in a really misleading way. Why did you represent the one side of the equation by their half-season paces this year (22 points higher than their previous 3 year average), and then represent Marner's side as "90 points", when Marner is pacing for 109 points (and has paced for more than 90 points for 7 straight years, and 101 points over that entire timeframe)?
Is it because you realized that even aside from all of the other issues with your comparison, filling that ~30 point pace gap those 2 players have had over 1 player over the past 3 years for the ~4-5m difference that they'll actually cost or less is actually pretty easy?
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Al14
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He has likely been told to sit on his hands by none other than... Shanahan !!!!
