Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches

[Fogelhund]

Necas is having himself a nice season but he’s nowhere close to the player Rantanen is. If I’m a player on the Avs, I’m furious

Landeskog is rumoured to be nearly ready to return. They had to make a move of some sort to fit him in. To me this is a sign that they are confident he’s coming back, as well as making the best out of knowing they weren’t keeping Rants. Middlestadt has been terrible this year for them, and it wouldn’t be a complete shock to see them make a move around him.

This was from Jan 17th.

Gabriel Landeskog’s journey back to NHL action took another step forward as the Colorado Avalanche captain participated in limited skating (h/t Jesse Montano of Guerilla Sports) on Thursday morning.

It’s the latest sign of progress for the 32-year-old, who has been sidelined since the Avalanche’s 2022 Stanley Cup win due to ongoing knee issues.

 

[Gabriel426]

No movement clause.
Marner can’t be traded unless he wants to be.

Key difference.

If Avs send Necas and Colton for MM plus promise to extend MM at 12mil while Leafs already told MM they won’t extend him at 12mil.

I doubt MM will say No.

 

[horner]

The canes traded for the player and I don't see why he wouldn't continue to ask for the amount the Avs balked at

That's a lot of coin if the rumored ask is true, the Cane's owner isn't renowned for throwing money around either

It's bold, risky but bold

Probably a bit more risk than I'd be willing to stomach

They still have average goaltending

 

[Maple Leaf]

Leafs should trade marner now
Like ranta
They can re sign this softy later if they want

 

[arso40]

If Avs send Necas and Colton for MM plus promise to extend MM at 12mil while Leafs already told MM they won’t extend him at 12mil.

I doubt MM will say No.

would you pull the trigger?

 

[pdson]

What the Av’s did is exactly what the Leafs should do with Marner.

What make our team worse just like the Avs did no thanks

 

[Madap]

Damn. Wish leafs had a gm or president with the balls to make big moves like that. This team is just way too risk adverse/scared to try anything significant like that.

 

[LOFIN]

I think he stays in Carolina. They have the most finish players in the league. They will convince him to stay. Especially after the 4 nations

ACTUALLY, Colorado did have the most Finnish players of any team before the Rantanen trade: Rantanen, Lehkonen, Kiviranta, Pärssinen, Innala (all of them forwards too, which was crazy). Carolina only had 3 before the Rantanen move: Aho, Kotkaniemi, and Jääskä.

 

[thusk]

1. Have you consider that maybe Tkachuk is a better fit than Huber and Weegar for the style they believe will help them win in the playoffs?

2. Leafs is no doubt getting better but their structured system/style that they had been playing earlier in the season are starting to fade. Now that could be bc of fatigue or injuries but over their last 10-13 games or so, they are playing closer their past than earlier in the season. Winning due to having better talents than the other teams.

3. What if they did traded MM or MM walks this summer, it all depends on the players coming in and filling roles. As I stated many times, I doubt the Leafs won't make the playoffs if one or even two of AM, MM, Willie, JT and Reilly are traded and replaced with lesser offensive talents players. The Leafs itself is still a good team.

It is the same core and I do hope they are different this playoffs, but as of today, their playoffs performances collectively sucks which is a fact.

1- ayeah that's help but the change didn't come with one player but with every player on the ice.

2- if last 10-13 is the worst they played all year long, they're still a pretty huge upgrade in the way they protecting their lead

3- Tampa is a pretty good team but only 3 pts in front of team like MTl or Ottawa, NYR is a pretty good team and actually out of playoff, Boston still a good team who always found way to have succes and could also miss the playoff. The difference between leading the division and be out of playoff is like 4 game, so exemple moving from marner to necas/ drury like colorado did with Rantanen could that result in 4 win ----> 4 Lost.... yeah certainly no doubt about it.

 

[Amadeus]

Mariner is a better player than Rantanen IMO. I think the Leafs should look to extend as soon as possible.

 

[Zybalto]

Probably the 2nd best scoring winger in the league after Kuch. 14 million a bit too much for him IMO and its rumored the Canes wernt signing Necas anyways. I wonder how Rantanen playing away from MacKinnon is going to look. Lets just say there is a substantial drop in his play when not having Mack as his center. Going to a rock solid defensive team/system might be a great fit though.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Mcmann until last year didn't had biggest value than a guy like Steeves right now who's at best a 5th round pick value...

I don't care what you think their past value was. The fact is, they're currently helping us.

Multiple sources reported the aborted deal ( mean they had at least discussion including Knies and no a no starter like your said) and from dregger it was knies 2 1st pick and mrazek for fleury and hagel... And maybe at the end they took the decision that didn't deserve to trade knies but Dubas had discussion including Knies. You can bury your head in the sand, but that's still happen...

Multiple sources reported discussions between Toronto and Chicago, but Knies was never offered by Toronto. That was explicitly confirmed by Friedman, and everything else we know supports that. He is who Chicago reportedly wanted, and him being a non-starter is likely what shut those discussions down.

If leafs want to make a run in playoff, they need to upgrade their 3rd line because actually, its pretty weak

You can think that, but it doesn't change the contributions we've gotten from them.

 

[weems]

Our bottom 6 and depth defencemen are the spots we need to address.
We are the fricking Toronto Maple Leafs and should have the best pro scouting in the business.
Go out and find 2-3 under the radar solid depth players without breaking the bank in trade assets.
Instead of having to give up a 1st for someone like Gourde, we need to be able to find the next Gourde or even someone close to range.
Feels like our amateur scouting has always been decent and underrated but we struggle on the pro scouting side.

 

[Fogelhund]

Leafs should trade marner now
Like ranta
They can re sign this softy later if they want

For sure... that will really help the Cup aspirations.

 

[Leafs1991]

Mariner is a better player than Rantanen IMO. I think the Leafs should look to extend as soon as possible.

I'm a Leaf fan and strongly disagree

 

[SprDaVE]

I'm a Leaf fan and strongly disagree

They are both world class RWers, hardly a big difference in value between the 2 anyway. Leafs should 100% look at extending Marner regardless, and Treliving will likely do it.

 

[Leafs1991]

They are both world class RWers, hardly a big difference in value between the 2 anyway. Leafs should 100% look at extending Marner regardless, and Treliving will likely do it.

Leafs haven't won anything. I'd rather trade him and switch up the core.

 

[SprDaVE]

Leafs haven't won anything. I'd rather trade him and switch up the core.

Switching up the core could mean a lot of bad as well. But we'll see how they do this time around with a hard nosed coach and a new "philosophy". A good opportunity this summer if this team fails in the first round again is that you have a lot of cap space to really change things up... Treliving isn't the right GM if you want to switch it up though so that's another problem.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Morgan Rielly for JT Miller

Easton Cowan, Calle Jarnkrok & 2nd for Rasmus Anderson

Knies - Matthews - Domi
McMann - Miller - Marner
Pacioretty - Tavares - Nylander
Lorentz - Kampf - Dewar/Reaves

McCabe - Tanev
OEL - Andersson
Benoit - Timmins

 

[Visnovsky]

Morgan Rielly for JT Miller

Easton Cowan, Calle Jarnkrok & 2nd for Rasmus Anderson

Knies - Matthews - Domi
McMann - Miller - Marner
Pacioretty - Tavares - Nylander
Lorentz - Kampf - Dewar/Reaves

McCabe - Tanev
OEL - Andersson
Benoit - Timmins

I actually had something very similar in mind, the Rielly trade and instead of Andersson, get Fox and a dump for Nylander.

 

[Skullz]

You would have to think that this allows the Leafs to hold firm to keeping Marner’s extension underneath Matthews’s AAV.

Very comparable situation to Rantanan and MacKinnon, except that Rantanan has a ton for playoff success. Hopefully this helps Marner take a little less. With his NMC I don’t know if there really is a trade to be made.

 

[Menzinger]

The canes traded for the player and I don't see why he wouldn't continue to ask for the amount the Avs balked at

That's a lot of coin if the rumored ask is true, the Cane's owner isn't renowned for throwing money around either

It's bold, risky but bold

Probably a bit more risk than I'd be willing to stomach

He probably does, and the player holds even more leverage.

BUT the Canes have the cap flexibility to likely meet those demands - if they want to.

The Canes management really does some impressive work given their ownership being so tight with spending

 

[SprDaVE]

He probably does, and the player holds even more leverage.

BUT the Canes have the cap flexibility to likely meet those demands - if they want to.

The Canes management really does some impressive work given their ownership being so tight with spending

Canes I think are one of the more aggressive teams out there in terms of player management next to Vegas. From offer sheets, to trades to signings. Not only that, but they draft amazingly well.

Their one big issue for a long long time has been goaltending though... and that hasn't changed. It's their big time weakness.

I'd be shocked if the Canes don't re-sign him, but I think they are ok with taking a big swing to get a cup run going.

 

[SprDaVE]

I thought this was Kaedan Korzcak but it's Ryder... probably his brother?

 

[thusk]

I don't care what you think their past value was. The fact is, they're currently helping us.

Multiple sources reported discussions between Toronto and Chicago, but Knies was never offered by Toronto. That was explicitly confirmed by Friedman, and everything else we know supports that. He is who Chicago reportedly wanted, and him being a non-starter is likely what shut those discussions down.

You can think that, but it doesn't change the contributions we've gotten from them.

I will explain you something, we didn't talk about about offer leafs got but about an aborted deal..when we saying a deal had been aborted. That's meaning they had discussion with all the piece on the table, they got basically an agreement but for a reason like someone refuse to waive a clause or a GM changing his mind at last second ( or got vetoed) or took an other offer somewhere else... result at the trade didn't happen... So yes Knies had been included in discussion and was not a non-starter like you said