Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

[Menzinger]

The Leafs don't have time/room for another project. They've got their own young guys and if they're going to make a trade, need proven vets who can deliver as expected.

Kakko IS intriguing, to an degree but he also may just be a bust

 

[Kiwi]

The Leafs don't have time/room for another project. They've got their own young guys and if they're going to make a trade, need proven vets who can deliver as expected.

Kakko IS intriguing, to an degree but he also may just be a bust

We've already got our Kakko in Robertson, we don't really have the assets to waste on another project who needs ice time

If we bring in a 3C who's playing on the 4th line? McMann Domi or Robertson?
What a waste, it's also been to good to break up the last couple of games

Top 6W (preferably a PF)
Top 4RD
2C/high end 3C

I'd take any one of the list above but I wouldn't bother about anything lower in the lineup

 

[sxvnert]

Robertson for Tanev (50%) $1,750,000

Knies Matthews Marner
Pac Tavares Nylander
Tanev Domi McMann
Dewer Kampf Lorentz

Tanves bro will give our bottom six a bit more jam that McMann usually doesn't.

 

[seanlinden]

We've already got our Kakko in Robertson, we don't really have the assets to waste on another project who needs ice time

If we bring in a 3C who's playing on the 4th line? McMann Domi or Robertson?
What a waste, it's also been to good to break up the last couple of games

Top 6W (preferably a PF)
Top 4RD
2C/high end 3C

I'd take any one of the list above but I wouldn't bother about anything lower in the lineup

This.

While it's nice to fantasize about some of these reclamation project forwards that either are or were available, the reality is, the better team you have, the less space there is to actually make use of these guys and put them in a position to succeed.

Plus, call me crazy, but I think Will Borgen was actually a pretty important piece to this deal. Him & Oleksiak played a pretty substantial role for the Kraken over the last few years. Obviously this year with the addition of Montour his role became a bit diminished.

I think the Rangers probably view him as the ideal candidate to help restore their right side to a fairly substantial position of strength with Fox/Schneider/Borgen.

They seemingly weren't going to get a Grade A asset back for Kaako, so might as well get something that you think is probably part of your long term plans. He's still only 28 (traded the day before his birthday coincidentally).

 

[TIGERCOOL]

Wonder if we could snag Frank Vatrano as a rental from the Ducks. He'd look great on our LW... but have no idea how eager they are to keep him around.

 

[Fogelhund]

Wonder if we could snag Frank Vatrano as a rental from the Ducks. He'd look great on our LW... but have no idea how eager they are to keep him around.

Our main need isn’t wingers.

 

[Kiwi]

Our main need isn’t wingers.

I wouldn't mind a PF type for the top line, it's not exactly a necessity though

 

[ULF_55]

Our main need isn’t wingers.

Getting a 100% Matthews is more important.

He's still pretty good at 80%, but ...

Wonder if a healthy, in game shape, Kampf will help? Maybe take PK time away from Matthews.

 

[TIGERCOOL]

Our main need isn’t wingers.

our left wing is also super thin, dude. A solid 3C is great, but scoring depth consistently bites this team in the ass come playoffs.

 

[TMLAM34]

our left wing is also super thin, dude. A solid 3C is great, but scoring depth consistently bites this team in the ass come playoffs.

I wouldn’t really call Knies, Pacioretty, McMann and Lorentz “super thin”.

 

[Fogelhund]

This.

While it's nice to fantasize about some of these reclamation project forwards that either are or were available, the reality is, the better team you have, the less space there is to actually make use of these guys and put them in a position to succeed.

Look, I agree we don't need to spend assets on a winger at this time... but to call a 3rd line winger, at close to 0.5PPG a reclamation project is a bit strange to me. I think if you obtain him, it's for him to be a really good third line winger, at close to 0.5PPG, and nothing more... forget about where he was drafted. A reclamation project isn't a guy putting up close to 0.5PPG.....

 

[Fogelhund]

our left wing is also super thin, dude. A solid 3C is great, but scoring depth consistently bites this team in the ass come playoffs.

So who would you sit? Or LWers include Knies, Patches, McMann, Robertson (who is playing on his off wing right now) and Lorentz.

Scoring by our stars consistently bites this team in the ass come the playoffs... if our best players, aren't the best players on the ice, who the depth is, is completely irrelevant.

 

[TMLAM34]

We should be going all in on someone like Cozens. Any deal would definitely require us to overpay, especially when trading within the division but adding Cozens addresses a major need moving forward.

 

[Fogelhund]

We should be going all in on someone like Cozens. Any deal would definitely require us to overpay, especially when trading within the division but adding Cozens addresses a major need moving forward.

Cozens the player would be a nice addition. Cozens the $7.1 mil cap hit, is something we can't afford, unless Marner is going the other way, which wouldn't happen. Or if it happens during the offseason, and we've let Marner walk.

If they are interested in making trades, Krebs or McLeod are more in line with what we can afford.

 

[TMLAM34]

Cozens the player would be a nice addition. Cozens the $7.1 mil cap hit, is something we can't afford, unless Marner is going the other way, which wouldn't happen. Or if it happens during the offseason, and we've let Marner walk.

If they are interested in making trades, Krebs or McLeod are more in line with what we can afford.

If you acquire Cozens at the trade deadline, his cap hit for this season would be pro rated depending how many games are left in the regular season. I don’t think it’s that big of an issue at all.

 

[Fogelhund]

If you acquire Cozens at the trade deadline, his cap hit for this season would be pro rated depending how many games are left in the regular season. I don’t think it’s that big of an issue at all.

We aren't accruing cap space at the current time, we are in LTIR. That means, any $ in, must be matched by equal dollars out. As his pro rated contract is added, pro rated contracts must be removed... so you need to free up $7.1 in contract cap space.... We can't do that.

 

[Puckstuff]

Biggest need is obviously a center and the style of center should be a playmaker since both Tavares and Matthews lean more shot then playmaker, which doesn’t get the most out of guys like Nylander and Robertson. Just look at what a playmaker like Domi does for Robertson, but we don’t want Domi at 3c long term imo. A playmaking center will unlock Robertson and help Nylander.

I can’t help but think Robertson is a 25-30 goal scorer playing with a top play making C like Granlund and Domi is an 80 point wing playing with Matthews. Matthews will do for Domi what McDavid did for Hyman.


Knies - Matthews - Domi
Robbie - Granlund - William
Pats/McMann - J.T - Marner

 

[BertCorbeau]

Kakko would have made sense if they moved Robertson earlier but unfortunately there isn’t space. Because Robby is already battling Holmberg, Patches, McMann, and Knies for top 9 ice time.

Also who is our version of Borgen in the deal that makes sense to move?

 

[SprDaVE]

Wonder if we could snag Frank Vatrano as a rental from the Ducks. He'd look great on our LW... but have no idea how eager they are to keep him around.

He's probably my favourite rental. The Ducks would be pretty dumb to re-sign him long-term, they have to keep building. They'll get a lot of calls from buyers in the next couple months for him and I don't think we have the assets to compete considering we're pretty loaded with wingers. The fit doesn't seem right.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Also who is our version of Borgen in the deal that makes sense to move?

Borgen is a #6 defenseman making 2.7m and bleeding chances and goals against. That was a cap dump to even out the money.

 

[Fogelhund]

Biggest need is obviously a center and the style of center should be a playmaker since both Tavares and Matthews lean more shot then playmaker, which doesn’t get the most out of guys like Nylander and Robertson. Just look at what a playmaker like Domi does for Robertson, but we don’t want Domi at 3c long term imo. A playmaking center will unlock Robertson and help Nylander.

I can’t help but think Robertson is a 25-30 goal scorer playing with a top play making C like Granlund and Domi is an 80 point wing playing with Matthews. Matthews will do for Domi what McDavid did for Hyman.


Knies - Matthews - Domi
Robbie - Granlund - William
Pats/McMann - J.T - Marner

I think we just be patient and wait. If McMann - Domi - Robertson show a consistent ability to beat the competition, and put in goals, why make any changes? Clearly though, two games doesn't mean much, it needs an extended run... But if we are mid January, and it still appears to be working, and the top two lines get sorted, I don't see the big need to make any forward change in the top nine.

I mean, there is a probability it doesn't work... and then we are having a different conversation.

But, if it does work, and our top nine is being productive, and outscoring opposition, it allows us to address other areas.

I still think we could upgrade the Rielly's partner and strengthen our D. It seems big, physical, stay at home D, are the best fit. A guy who can skate well too, to get back up the ice when Mo makes one of his bad pinches is ideal.

But, let's be patient and see what the real need is.

 

[SprDaVE]

Biggest need is obviously a center and the style of center should be a playmaker since both Tavares and Matthews lean more shot then playmaker, which doesn’t get the most out of guys like Nylander and Robertson. Just look at what a playmaker like Domi does for Robertson, but we don’t want Domi at 3c long term imo. A playmaking center will unlock Robertson and help Nylander.

I can’t help but think Robertson is a 25-30 goal scorer playing with a top play making C like Granlund and Domi is an 80 point wing playing with Matthews. Matthews will do for Domi what McDavid did for Hyman.


Knies - Matthews - Domi
Robbie - Granlund - William
Pats/McMann - J.T - Marner

Granlund is having a great year production wise and he'd obviously be an upgrade somewhere. I'm far from a pro-big player/physical/meathead... but isn't that a tad... soft? It doesn't seem to fit at all what Berube and Treliving are trying to "build" in terms of compete. JT is having a great season and pushing him to the "3rd line" minutes seems inefficient as well.

The Leafs probably don't need to go all out on a top center rental. What they need to me is more of a role player that fits into the 3 hole. Someone that can play 13-16 minutes, preferably a top PKer, to form a rounded 3rd line. I think someone like Laughton would be the kind of player I feel fits better into what we need as an example.

 

[Fogelhund]

Granlund is having a great year production wise and he'd obviously be an upgrade somewhere. I'm far from a pro-big player/physical/meathead... but isn't that a tad... soft? It doesn't seem to fit at all what Berube and Treliving are trying to "build" in terms of compete. JT is having a great season and pushing him to the "3rd line" minutes seems inefficient as well.

The Leafs probably don't need to go all out on a top center rental. What they need to me is more of a role player that fits into the 3 hole. Someone that can play 13-16 minutes, preferably a top PKer, to form a rounded 3rd line. I think someone like Laughton would be the kind of player I feel fits better into what we need as an example.

This is why I've brought up Krebs. He's not a big guy, but he does play a physical game, has 52 hits on the year. Laughton has 73. On the flip side, Krebs also has the potential, to grow his game from where it is. While Laughton has some very good qualities, he isn't very good defensively. Krebs on the other hand is, is good on faceoffs, and has an offensive background that suggests in the right circumstances he has upside. Plus with Krebs, he's a RFA next contract, so you've got years of control.

 

[LeafSteel]

Really happy to see the 3rd line playing how they have.

It’s only 2 games, but any scenario that gets Domi and Robertson putting up points is an absolute win for us and hopefully this line is legit and can continue to make both players strong contributors.

With Domi settling in at 3C (hopefully), our easily most pressing need now is to find a 2RHD.

McCabe and Tanev are unquestionably our top pairing, but we need OEL back on LHD and feasting on 3LHD ice time, and I’m comfortable with a developing 3RHD pairing with Timmins, but we absolutely need a 2RHD to play with Rielly.

Liljegren failed, Hakanpaa isn’t happening, and Myers isn’t good enough for it. Doesn’t have to be a huge name like Parayko et al, but I think a guy like Connor Murphy is a reasonable and attainable a piece to look at, and would solidify our pairings going into the playoffs.

 

[SprDaVE]

Really happy to see the 3rd line playing how they have.

It’s only 2 games, but any scenario that gets Domi and Robertson putting up points is an absolute win for us and hopefully this line is legit and can continue to make both players strong contributors.

With Domi settling in at 3C (hopefully), our easily most pressing need now is to find a 2RHD.

McCabe and Tanev are unquestionably our top pairing, but we need OEL back on LHD and feasting on 3LHD ice time, and I’m comfortable with a developing 3RHD pairing with Timmins, but we absolutely need a 2RHD to play with Rielly.

Liljegren failed, Hakanpaa isn’t happening, and Myers isn’t good enough for it. Doesn’t have to be a huge name like Parayko et al, but I think a guy like Connor Murphy is a reasonable and attainable a piece to look at, and would solidify our pairings going into the playoffs.

Unless they dominate for next 3 months, I still think the plan will be to give Robertson his fresh start he wants, move Domi to RW and find a center.