Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

[LeafSteel]

No chance we are for many reasons, just what I think the team would really benefit from. A physical scoring top 6 centre with speed and drive who could possibly push Tavares down, would be a really good fit wherever it is they slot.

I get what you are saying and agree with your sentiment.

Simply put, are the Leafs better with a 2C of JT Miller, signed for $8m, or Mitch Marner for $12m?

I know where my vote is but the Cult of Marnerality will not allow any scenario to be discussed that implies that the Leafs, if they spend the money correctly (and that’s big IF), could be better off without Marner.

JT Miller is a perfect example of a player who fits the Leafs needs better than Marner, at $3-4M less a year than Marner could conceivably ask.

Some folks will get the point being made, that there is life and potential for the Leafs to exist and be even better without Marner, provided the right moves are made.

Others, not so much. Personally, I cheer for the Toronto Maple Leafs. Couldn’t care less about any single player if moving on makes our team better.

It’s Marner’s name that is left to move on from, as the decision was made to extend Nylander and Matthews. Moving on from Marner is the only remaining option to make a significant change to this team, one that a significant portion of this fan base, after watching years of the same, are eager to do something different.

 

[123offtheglass]

I get what you are saying and agree with your sentiment.

Simply put, are the Leafs better with a 2C of JT Miller, signed for $8m, or Mitch Marner for $12m?

I know where my vote is but the Cult of Marnerality will not allow any scenario to be discussed that implies that the Leafs, if they spend the money correctly (and that’s big IF), could be better off without Marner.

JT Miller is a perfect example of a player who fits the Leafs needs better than Marner, at $3-4M less a year than Marner could conceivably ask.

Some folks will get the point being made, that there is life and potential for the Leafs to exist and be even better without Marner, provided the right moves are made.

Others, not so much. Personally, I cheer for the Toronto Maple Leafs. Couldn’t care less about any single player if moving on makes our team better.

When did this become about Mitch Marner? He’s not going anywhere but they can win with him

 

[Avilaj07]

If we're nitpicking, the one area of concern so far this season is once again secondary scoring. Mcmann looks like a shell of the player he finished as last year, Domi has cooled off significantly after a hot start, and well Robertson hasn't done much of anything having only 1 point in 12 games.

Personally, I'd be looking at moving all of Holmberg, Mcmann, Robertson, Kampf, and Jarnkrok. Also placing Reaves on waivers since he doesn't bring anything to the table.

Now obviously we would have to replace some of these players as well. A couple of targets I like would be,

Brandon Tanev
Scott Laughton
Morgan Frost
Jake Evans
Christian Dvorak (retained)

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Casey Czikas or Nic Dowd please.

 

[LeafSteel]

Casey Czikas or Nic Dowd please.

Was hoping for Dowd last TDL.

$1.3m and a lot to like about his game.

 

[LeafSteel]

When did this become about Mitch Marner? He’s not going anywhere but they can win with him

It’s not.

You brought up a player, JT Miller who fits the Leafs needs, who would make the Leafs better.

Marner was used as an example because he will be a UFA. If Nylander was a UFA, he would have been an example too.

with cap space in mind, I presented an example where the Leafs could get better value and improve that doesn’t include Marner.

That was the point being made.

 

[123offtheglass]

It’s not.

You brought up a player, JT Miller who fits the Leafs needs, who would make the Leafs better.

Marner was used as an example because he will be a UFA. If Nylander was a UFA, he would have been an example too.

with cap space in mind, I presented an example where the Leafs could get better value and improve that doesn’t include Marner.

That was the point being made.

Miller @ 8m would be much better than Marner & his contract

 

[ITM]

If we're nitpicking, the one area of concern so far this season is once again secondary scoring. Mcmann looks like a shell of the player he finished as last year, Domi has cooled off significantly after a hot start, and well Robertson hasn't done much of anything having only 1 point in 12 games.

Personally, I'd be looking at moving all of Holmberg, Mcmann, Robertson, Kampf, and Jarnkrok. Also placing Reaves on waivers since he doesn't bring anything to the table.

Now obviously we would have to replace some of these players as well. A couple of targets I like would be,

Brandon Tanev
Scott Laughton
Morgan Frost
Jake Evans
Christian Dvorak (retained)

Yes to the bolded.
Meh to the next three.

A change of scenery in Toronto for Laughton is particularly intriguing.

 

[Avilaj07]

Yes to the bolded.
Meh to the next three.

A change of scenery in Toronto for Laughton is particularly intriguing.

I would actually love both. A third line of,

Domi-Laughton-Tanev would be an extremely annoying line to play against

 

[LaPlante94]

Gourde might actually become available. I didn't love the idea of him but Seattle isn't doing so hot atm and they will probably want to move him before he becomes a FA and I doubt they can keep him. Idk how to make the trade work because his cap hit is like 5 mil so they either have to retain or they're gonna be forced to take Jarnkrok and Kampf in a trade and then maybe we make another one with Utah with Benning for a 4C. Then again we need to clear like 2 mil in cap for Hakanpaa and Dewar so maybe they play Dewar at C on the 4th line instead. At this point he might be the best C option who could hit the market.

 

[Martin Skoula]

WE aren't landing a JT Miller level player. That's just not realistic, we really don't have the pieces to make it happen, nor the cap space. I also don't think that's really what we need. It's a really nice want though, I'll give you that. Right now, we need to make the bottom six better, in particular a C, and I'd say making it more physical would be my want.

To be fair Miller was a throw-in in the McDonagh deal that cost the same as Muzzin or roughly the same amount that we spent renting #6D over the last few years. We just haven’t been active in that market and don’t have the pro scouting to identify the Millers of the world when they’re cheap asset and cap wise before they break out.