Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Deadline-ageddon

[RealisticLeaf55]

Wonder what the chances of us making a move for either:

Donato & Murphy

Anthony Beauvillier (Sorry if I butchered that)

ROR

or

Laughton and add another dman here.

Really not all that interested in Laughton.

 

[Leaffan1991]

I would rather trade Willy than Knies

 

[NJG]

Looks like are two main targets are Laughton & Tanev...

 

[ULF_55]

If ROR agrees to go to NJ to play for Keefe again we’ll know it was the market and not the coach that he wanted to avoid here. Lights too bright for Mr. Factor it seems.

Wait hang on, ROR doesn’t have any clauses on his contract? That’s what Puckpedia and Capwages are saying. Guess it won’t matter then. Thought for sure he had at least a NTC.

Predators' O'Reilly to be treated as if he has no-trade protection

If the Nashville Predators are going to trade Ryan O'Reilly this season, it's going to be on the veteran forward's terms.

www.sportsnet.ca

"I think the Predators' preference is to keep him because they want him to win, especially when they start to put the pieces back together at the end of this year, and also, they see him as a leader on and off the ice," Friedman said during the Saturday Headlines segment on Hockey Night in Canada.
"However, they are going to at least consider it under two conditions. Number one: The offer has got to be something that really excites them ... and number two: It has to be something O'Reilly would agree to."

"Here's what I understand the Predators are telling teams. They are saying, 'he may not have protection language in his contract, but he is being treated as if he has a no-move clause,'" Friedman relayed.

 

[Gabriel426]

Friedman insinuates that Toronto is aware of what Tampa and Florida have been doing so...I guess our front office is preparing to load up too.

aware of? The bar is low on updates eh.

We live in the Information Age where all these insiders send out confirmed trades seconds after they are done.
How the F can Leafs MGT not be aware of the trades for Panthers and TB

Predators' O'Reilly to be treated as if he has no-trade protection

If the Nashville Predators are going to trade Ryan O'Reilly this season, it's going to be on the veteran forward's terms.

www.sportsnet.ca

"I think the Predators' preference is to keep him because they want him to win, especially when they start to put the pieces back together at the end of this year, and also, they see him as a leader on and off the ice," Friedman said during the Saturday Headlines segment on Hockey Night in Canada.
"However, they are going to at least consider it under two conditions. Number one: The offer has got to be something that really excites them ... and number two: It has to be something O'Reilly would agree to."

"Here's what I understand the Predators are telling teams. They are saying, 'he may not have protection language in his contract, but he is being treated as if he has a no-move clause,'" Friedman relayed.

Translation, send me an offer I can’t refuse, lol
Or
Preds have two option when it comes to ROR, he is either traded to another team or stay with the team. These are the only two options and there is not a third. Lol

 

[Dekes For Days]

also took 3 years after he left our organization to become a full time NHL player at 27....

And anybody could have signed him that whole time...

 

[Rare Jewel]

I'm trying to work out what the Rantanen deal would look like.

Rantanen (signed) + Suzuki + Nystrom + 2nd '25

For

Rielly ($1.5m retained) + Knies + Niemela



I know... The idea of Rielly moving on such short notice is not great, but hey, you can always ask.

 

[JEI]

All in for Rantanen.

 

[ULF_55]

This would just be interesting to see:

Knies-Matthews-marner
Rantanen-Tavares-Nylander

By the way, Rantanen - shoots left, even though he's a RW.

Here;s a chuckle ...

 

[JEI]

Sneaky little C depth move by FLA to get Nico Sturm. Didn't give up much to get him.

 

[stats1]

Yeah this is kind of disappointing

 

[Martin Skoula]

I dont see how a core of

Matthews
Rantanen
Nylander
Bennett/Tavares

Will be better than our current core 4 unless you think Marner is only reason for our struggles and/or if we get rid of him the other core guys will produce

Forwards:

Matthews - 13.25M
Rantanen - 12.5M
Marner - 12.5M
Nylander - 11.5M
XXX - ?
XXX - ?
Domi - 3.75M
Robertson - 1.5M
Cowan - 925K
Minten - 925K
McMann - 1.3M
Dewar - 1.1M

Defense
Rielly - 7.5M
McCabe - 4.6M
Tanev - 4.5M
OEL - 3.5M
XXX - ?
XXX - ?

Goalies
Stolarz - 2.5M
Woll 3.67M

Gives us ~86M cap allocated leaving 9.5M for 2 forwards (1C at min) and 2D

Cap wise it would be very tough unless we moved Rielly out for a 5M top 4D and Woll for a picks and signing a 1.5M backup giving us 14M to add those 4 pieces

All in all, I can conceed this level of trades and cap management is more than Trelivomg_Shammy would ever do. Too many risks and unknowms so we likely go for safer options at the TDL

A line of 3 6’4 220 pound elite shooter + elite netfront guys is harder to shut down than a line with two of them. Doesn’t have to be Rantanen, Protas + Wilson in the summer would have been fine.

I want our coach to decide what kind of game we’re playing that night based on the opponent and the series and have players that can execute that game effectively. You can’t decide to play a heavy dump and chase game or a high speed counterpunch game when Marner is playing 27 minutes a night. When he’s on the ice you’re playing Marner hockey (which can win some matchups) or you’re wasting your time. He looked great in the 4 nations finals OT, and it was one of the few instances of that line playing Marner hockey instead of defaulting to McDavid hockey. Marner is stationary at the wall and out-thinks the US to a stationary McDavid in the slot, it’s not Marner adapting and playing at McDavid speed or getting on the forecheck and in front of the net to play the Hyman role for McDavid hockey.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Or trade for players who got terms or is able and willing to resign while still in their prime.
I don’t see how Vegas can always manage to trade for good players who are 26-28 yrs old and able to resign them. While we always trade for players who either won’t or can’t due to cap to remain on the team after playoffs.

Giving up assets for McCabe and Lafferty are fine bc they both got terms, in their prime and Leafs have the cap room to extend them.

Lastly, Leafs winning a Cup and having AM win a cup with Leafs can be two completely different things.

I'm absolutely with you.

But it will require slinging assets around.

Part of the reason that teams like Vegas, Florida and Tampa take those risks is they have recent playoff success. That type of confidence is something we just can't buy.

 

[Gabriel426]

When it comes to Rantanen. The whole World knows he is not resigning with the Canes. Why would any teams even overpaid.
On top of that, Canes want players to help them win NOW.
Lastly, the team that trade for Rantanen either treat him like a complete rental or would like some sort of promise that he will resign.

Too complicated for the Leafs

 

[Menzinger]

I used to think this, I no longer do.

Shanahans current contract is set to expire this year and there hasn't been any updates on an extension which is why I think there's more pressure from ownership to demonstrate progress

 

[Gabriel426]

I'm absolutely with you.

But it will require slinging assets around.

Part of the reason that teams like Vegas, Florida and Tampa take those risks is they have recent playoff success. That type of confidence is something we just can't buy.

Exactly.

I agree with you 100%.

The core 5 just doesn’t have playoffs history to back up going all in.

 

[Warrior16]

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[BertCorbeau]

Damn Soucy would have been nice

 

[Gabriel426]

Damnit, there goes the Reilly for Hughes trade we were waiting for

 

[The Management]

Wonder what the chances of us making a move for either:

Donato & Murphy

I've sort of been on this train.

Some people see Donato's numbers this year as an aberration, and I understand why. He wouldn't get the same opportunities in Toronto, and he's not particularly good in the faceoff circle. Still, I like that he has a good shot. This team has historically struggled to score in the post-season. It'd be one-stop-shop if you could get Murphy in the same deal, but combined, they make 6.4M in cap. Donato is also a pending UFA, and I expect he's looking to cash in on a career year, so it's not without some risk, especially if you're looking to sign him to an extension.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Soucy sucks. Maybe the Rangers will pair him with Fox

 

[BertCorbeau]

Honestly given the reports it’s not shock the Leafs haven’t made a move. Trev has a few targets left but isnt succumbing to the price yet (See the Gourde trade)

Maybe he’s holding out for prices to drop in lieu of the supply?

Wonder he has had Laughton’s price nailed down but is waiting on his bigger targets to drop

 

[Metroid]

Did we not have a 3rd round pick? Lol

 

[RealisticLeaf55]

On the one hand, I really can't see us making a massive splash for Brock Nelson, Rant, Boeser.

Donato, Murphy, Beau, etc.

On the other hand, this is Shanahans last chance. They have to do something. No deep run, no Shanahan. Plain and simple.