Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Deadline-ageddon

[Commander Clueless]

Cant waive the injured

I'm thinking Reaves to waivers, Patches to LTIR.

If we need the space of course. Depends on what deals (if any) are available.

 

[Stephen]

Huge mistake to trade a 1st for Laughton. Next year is supposed to be a deep draft.

I hope they do very minimal at the deadline. Maybe adding a depth piece or two at for a small fee.

Teams like Washington are being very cautious and keeping their assets.

This summer they can add the pieces they need and sign the players they want to keep.

Laughton is an auction nobody needs to win. There’s no amount of hype that can change my mind on that.

 

[SprDaVE]

Huge mistake to trade a 1st for Laughton. Next year is supposed to be a deep draft.

I hope they do very minimal at the deadline. Maybe adding a depth piece or two at for a small fee.

Teams like Washington are being very cautious and keeping their assets.

This summer they can add the pieces they need and sign the players they want to keep.

That prospect is 3 years away from any sort of NHL contribution if you're lucky. Probably closer to 5 years. There's no reason to be this cautious when the goal is to win championships. Washington traded plenty of picks to get where they are right now.

I don't disagree though that Laughton is a little meh.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Laughton is an auction nobody needs to win. There’s no amount of hype that can change my mind on that.

agree and kind of feel the same way about Brandon Tanev. Love him, think he'd be a great fit, but no freaking way should we be engaging in a bidding war and overpaying for these guys. The value add is incremental.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Back to a 1st+ eh?

I would like Laughton but man that's a lot...

 

[Rare Jewel]

Next year's 1st is going for him, isn't it?

 

[thewave]

I'm thinking Reaves to waivers, Patches to LTIR.

If we need the space of course. Depends on what deals (if any) are available.

More worried about going into the playoffs with Mo and Domi then anything. I agree with you though.

Maybe something better will come up for a 2nd and C prospect. Who knows. Gotta keep the 1st and Cowan though.

 

[The Podium]

Some of what he says makes sense.

Kadri a better player? No. He is more impactful in a playoff because his style.

Toronto screws up development worse than almost anyone else in the league.

The most important players on this team have been drafted and developed...

Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Knies, Reilly, McMann* and Woll can challenge the development of any other team in the league.

 

[Commander Clueless]

More worried about going into the playoffs with Mo and Domi then anything. I agree with you though.

Maybe something better will come up for a 2nd and C prospect. Who knows. Gotta keep the 1st and Cowan though.

Need to bump Domi down from 3C and get Mo a neanderthal partner at minimum in my mind.

Unless they finally perfected that cyborg knee for Hakanpaa.

 

[BertCorbeau]

I’m fine with standing pat and retaining our assets personally rather than overpaying for a short term thing

 

[hockeywiz542]

Flyers, Leafs continue to talk trade before deadline

The Philadelphia Flyers and the Toronto Maple Leafs seem like great trade partners and some discussions are being had.

www.broadstreethockey.com

It’s no secret that Scott Laughton is available to be traded if a team comes up with a first-round pick to send to Philadelphia. And it is certainly a fact that the Flyers would be willing to move Rasmus Ristolainen if the right proposal came along for the hulking rearguard.

We thought all along it would be two separate deals with two separate teams, but according to Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman, Toronto and Philadelphia might try to work out a deal to get both available Flyers north of the border.

“I think [the Leafs] would love to do something that moves the needle,” Friedman said on Tuesday’s episode of Leafs Morning Take. “I think they have accepted the fact that if they’re going to get something that moves the needle, it’s going to cost them some combination of their No. 1 pick in 2026, Easton Cowan, Fraser Minten, or Ben Danford. … I think also they’ve wondered if they’re going to have to move salaries, too. Does someone have to come off the roster to make stuff work?

“I think they’re still looking at the ‘D’ market. I know they’re interested in Laughton. They know what the price is going to be for Laughton. I’ve always wondered if they can try to do a Laughton and Ristolainen kind of deal. Knock two birds off with one stone. But that’s expensive.”

That would certainly be a significant splash, but what kind of players do the Flyers covet over there? According to a separate report, there is one young center that has been all the rage and they have already been denied a certain proposal.

“I was told that the Flyers would be interested and willing to do Fraser Minten straight up for Scott Laughton. I was told that was also a ‘no’ for the Toronto Maple Leafs. The Flyers like Minten,” Daily Faceoff’s Frank Seravalli said Tuesday.

 

[Gabriel426]

Did Oilers just got Fredric for pretty much nothing? As I really don’t know those unsigned prospects.

 

[Sypher04]

Frederic is on LTIR and might not be ready before the playoffs. Similar situation to Gourde. More or less what to expect for a Gourde acquisition.

Much much rather give a 2nd and 4th for Gourde.

 

[Americanadian]

Did Oilers just got Fredric for pretty much nothing? As I really don’t know those unsigned prospects.

They paid a 2nd and a 4th.

 

[trellaine201]

Atkinson and Brown waived by TBL

We should be doing that with Reaves and Patches to maximize cap space.

Kinda surprised we haven’t any players.

 

[thusk]

I know, but I'd be willing to pay the price.

He isn't an untouchable, and he isn't a Bedard or Celebrini but I think he'd be better long term than anything the Leafs have cooking.

mctabish /cozens trade would start with knies

He isn't untouchable but be sure you will need to pay.

 

[Fogelhund]

Did Oilers just got Fredric for pretty much nothing? As I really don’t know those unsigned prospects.

A 2nd and 4th.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

This is the biggest no win situation for Treliving/Shanny.

If Tre uses a 1st for Laughton, he loses. If he keeps all his assets, he loses. If Toronto doesn't go deep in the playoffs (Laughton or not), he loses. Same thing goes for Shanny too.

WHAT DO FANS WANT?

 

[Stephen]

agree and kind of feel the same way about Brandon Tanev. Love him, think he'd be a great fit, but no freaking way should we be engaging in a bidding war and overpaying for these guys. The value add is incremental.

I would happily acquire Brandon Tanev in the summer but I’m consuming media out of sheer excitement we might get him.

 

[Budz]

Haha sure brother

Cowan is most definitely an NHL center, what makes you think different?

And i bet you were one of those people that said Tavares is better than Kadri when we blew this whole rebuild up.
Kadri has a ring nowAnd Tavares walks next season.

I'd love for you to explain yourself, rather than just make a comment without any knowledge behind it

Because I know hockey. Too long to explain.

I will say…

Cowan will be an excellent 3 line winger, with maybe potential to be a 2nd liner.

The over projection on your post needed to be corrected. Sorry if that offended you.

 

[The Shadow]

I’m fine with standing pat and retaining our assets personally rather than overpaying for a short term thing

Yes exactly. Look at our prospects. The two better ones are because we kept our 1sts.

If and when Matthews leaves in 4 years we need someone to be ready to step in and play during the the rebuild/retool

 

[The Podium]

Yes exactly. Look at our prospects. The two better ones are because we kept our 1sts.

If and when Matthews leaves in 4 years we need someone to be ready to step in and play during the the rebuild/retool

The fact that your main concern is who will place once the wheels fall off means you are completely missing the mark.

 

[Americanadian]

This is the biggest no win situation for Treliving/Shanny.

If Tre uses a 1st for Laughton, he loses. If he keeps all his assets, he loses. If Toronto doesn't go deep in the playoffs (Laughton or not), he loses. Same thing goes for Shanny too.

WHAT DO FANS WANT?

Tre will be judged based on the prices other teams pay. If the deadline passes and Tre doesn't make any moves, most fans will judge him based on moves other teams made that the Leafs could have matched the acquisition cost. I don't think anyone is going to be upset if Tre doesn't spend a 1st on Laughton.

 

[Commander Clueless]

This is the biggest no win situation for Treliving/Shanny.

If Tre uses a 1st for Laughton, he loses. If he keeps all his assets, he loses. If Toronto doesn't go deep in the playoffs (Laughton or not), he loses. Same thing goes for Shanny too.

WHAT DO FANS WANT?

A winning team.

Tre should do what he thinks is best to achieve that goal.

Whatever he does will be criticized if he doesn't achieve it.

Whatever he does will be lauded if he does achieve that goal.

Pretty simple.



The only reason this is a "no win scenario" is because you haven't envisioned the scenario where the Leafs win. Granted, probably for good reason....

 

[Stephen]

That prospect is 3 years away from any sort of NHL contribution if you're lucky. Probably closer to 5 years. There's no reason to be this cautious when the goal is to win championships. Washington traded plenty of picks to get where they are right now.

I don't disagree though that Laughton is a little meh.

I think you have to weigh a couple of things which is what you’re actually acquiring for those picks and prospects. Trade deadline day hype can’t justify those Laughton types because they don’t really help your championship aspirations. The other is the opportunity cost of moving those picks and prospects. The first you don’t trade one year could be a bluechipper if you do a great job in the draft and you could have a superior trade chip down the line. And the last thing is how fit is your core group to even lead a championship run? 2025 Auston Matthews is not 2024 or 2023 or 2022 Matthews. He’s an up and down top 15 center but hardly a game breaker in his prime who can be a workhorse in the big games.