Yeah, that’s how I build my house. I’ll pay high end costs for garbage construction because it’ll still resemble a house at the end of the day, even if it falls apart within a year.
Let’s be honest, he cares more about suckling from the teet and coming up with excuses to kick the can than he cares about building a winner.
Wow! I didn’t realize so many trades had been made. lol
Tanner Jeannot - 2nd + 4th
Don't you ever question a Sabres fan's right to bitch. What else have we got left.
If any analogy should be made it should be about finance/investments. Paying a premium for something you want/need now is something that is sometimes preferable or even necessary versus the alternatives. It's not a problem in moderation. It's not as if the Sabres have been mortgaging their future. They can easily afford to burn the difference between a 2nd and 3rd/4th type value.
I could buy a push mower for 500 or a rider for 1500. If I have the extra scratch, why not spend a little more for a better experience.
Rob Ray: None of the above.
it was a joke comment to poster who made it sound like player had a choice if he would go to buffalo or not
yikes
Tangent from the Beck Malenstyn stuff - Beck is a textbook example of why with/without models are flawed. The RMNB article gives this player card from Evolving Hockey which evaluates him as a bad offensive player and an atrocious defender.
At the same time, it rates Dowd and NAK as both being average offensively and elite (90+) defensively. It thinks Beck was the passenger on that line, but in reality Beck was the player that defined the shutdown line. You can see through Natural Stat Trick's Line Stats tool that when that line was together, they got 7.65% OZ Faceoffs. So what happens when they break up?
For some league-wide context, if Malenstyn had 20.4% for the season that would drop his rank amongst forwards from 1/771 to 8/771, min 100 minutes played - still 1st percentile for hardest deployments.
- NAK solo: 53.1%
- Dowd solo: 35.7%
- NAK+Dowd without Beck: 35.3%
- Beck solo: 20.4%
What does a with/without model see in this context? Well when Dowd and NAK play away Beck they get significantly easier deployments with more skilled teammates, so their numbers improve away from him. Meanwhile, when Beck's away from Dowd and NAK he's being asked to play the same shutdown role, but now with teammates who aren't as well suited to it, so those teammates who are normally being sheltered by Beck's line see their numbers plummet. The model interprets this as Beck being a drag on all the players around him, so it gives him low scores.
This is the fundamental issue with these kinds of models. They'll always underrate players who consistently get tough, defensively-focused deployments, and they'll always overrate players who consistently easy, offensively-focused deployments. Hence why these models always seem to love the sheltered third pairing offensive defenseman or the speedy young winger the coach doesn't trust in his own zone and hate the steady, D-first guys that coaches lean on. I think there's some value to these models for the guys in the middle, but it inherently can't handle the edge cases.
There's no way the Caps would've traded Beck for a 4th. This wasn't a guy they were shopping, no Caps fans expected him to be moved, and they don't have anyone in the system waiting in the wings to fill the same role. The Caps this past year had a top 9 with nothing but defensively irresponsible centers, so they leaned on their "4th" line to handle the entire defensive load. In practice, the "4th" line was 2nd or 3rd in ice time every night. That line flew under the radar of national attention because the only thing anyone watches the Caps for nowadays is Ovie, but they dragged the Caps to the playoffs, and based on the moves the Caps have made so far they were banking on it doing the same thing again this year.
The first one.
Thank you for the insight! He should be a staple on our 4th line for years to come.
Or you could pay 1500 for a push mower like the Sabres.
Shouldn’t be an issue at all with BM. He’s been a fan and locker room favorite for his intensity and motor since his Hershey days. He’s a very “put on your boots and bring your lunch pail to work every day,” kind of guy.
