Value of: Trade Winners (10 years)
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Mal Reynolds
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Since the lockout (which I guess is more than 10 years ago but whatevs), based on a quick look at the trade history of the NHL, and arguing for Canadian teams "winning" relatively significant trades:
The great...
-the initial Pronger deal between Edm/STL (self-explanatory)
-the first Luongo deal between Vancouver & Florida (again, self-explanatory)
-Edm/LA Penner swap (the real prize was the pick the Oilers got, used it to select Klefbom)
The good, but not great...
-Cgy/Fla Huselius swap (initially, anyway. Gave the Flames a serviceable top 6 winger, albeit a flawed one)
-Edm/Min Roloson trade (Rolli was serviceable guy for them for years; pick never amounted to much... did get them Demitra, however)
-Ottawa getting stalwart Craig Anderson from Colorado for Brian Elliott, who nearly washed out of the league at this point
-Oilers re-acquiring heart-and-souler Ryan Smyth from LA
-Winnipeg getting Frolik from Chicago was a good value buy
-Calgary picking up Russell for a 5th
Already mentioned...
-the Gorges/MaxPac for Rivet swap between SJ/MTL
-Lupul/Gardiner for Beauchemin trade between TOR/ANH
-Van getting Ehrhoff from SJ for next to nothing
-TOR gettin VanRiemsdyk from Philly for Schenn
Didn't even really bother at looking at the last year or two - probably a bit early to judge, and this kept it within a 10 yr window
Yeah, unfortunately it seems like Canadian teams lost more than they won, and even some of the good deals were offset by bad trades (i.e. the Pronger deals)
Perhaps a bit of an unfair argument though, given there's only a handful of Canadian teams?
The great...
-the initial Pronger deal between Edm/STL (self-explanatory)
-the first Luongo deal between Vancouver & Florida (again, self-explanatory)
-Edm/LA Penner swap (the real prize was the pick the Oilers got, used it to select Klefbom)
The good, but not great...
-Cgy/Fla Huselius swap (initially, anyway. Gave the Flames a serviceable top 6 winger, albeit a flawed one)
-Edm/Min Roloson trade (Rolli was serviceable guy for them for years; pick never amounted to much... did get them Demitra, however)
-Ottawa getting stalwart Craig Anderson from Colorado for Brian Elliott, who nearly washed out of the league at this point
-Oilers re-acquiring heart-and-souler Ryan Smyth from LA
-Winnipeg getting Frolik from Chicago was a good value buy
-Calgary picking up Russell for a 5th
Already mentioned...
-the Gorges/MaxPac for Rivet swap between SJ/MTL
-Lupul/Gardiner for Beauchemin trade between TOR/ANH
-Van getting Ehrhoff from SJ for next to nothing
-TOR gettin VanRiemsdyk from Philly for Schenn
Didn't even really bother at looking at the last year or two - probably a bit early to judge, and this kept it within a 10 yr window
Yeah, unfortunately it seems like Canadian teams lost more than they won, and even some of the good deals were offset by bad trades (i.e. the Pronger deals)
Perhaps a bit of an unfair argument though, given there's only a handful of Canadian teams?
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I'm not convinced Anaheim won the Kesler trade, though I wouldn't say the nucks did either.
Bonino and McCann isn't a bad return for a guy that demanded a trade and listed 2 possible teams to go to. Coupled with the fact Anaheim had to sign him to one of the worst contracts in the league or risk losing him and I think it's pretty even in the end.
Bonino and McCann isn't a bad return for a guy that demanded a trade and listed 2 possible teams to go to. Coupled with the fact Anaheim had to sign him to one of the worst contracts in the league or risk losing him and I think it's pretty even in the end.
This. Roslovic and Lemieux were 2 of the standouts at the Jets development camp. Myers and Armia both had better years. Stafford will soon be gone, but the Sabres now have to find value in E. Kane as he quickly wears out his welcome and hope for the best with an injury riddled Bogo.
He had a rough start to the season, but settled down the second half of the season and wasn't bad as 4/5 guy. Only issue with him is the NMC, which kills us due to expansion. Besides that, wouldn't mind keeping him around for his leadership.
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Oilers did pretty well on both Perron trades. Turned PIT's 1st into Reinhart which remains to be seen though
Alberta_OReilly_Fan
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i think this is one of those dumb coincidences that might be intersting but means nothing
like the king touching people in game of thrones in the first episode of the series... everyone he touched is now dead
meaningful no... quirky yes
theres nothing stopping one of the 23 american teams from making a bad trade with 1 of the 7 canadian teams tomorrow. recent history shows the 7 canadian teams have all been mismanaged. having them all miss the playoffs last year and none of them being sure things to make the playoffs this year speaks of their poor performance.
its no great surprise they have been on the loosing end of trades... but its no indication what might happen now
Waaaayyyy to early to judge these three in my opinion.
...though I would probably add Theodore for Aebischer on the list of trades the Habs lost. I know getting rid of his contract was the primary objective here, but I still think the Habs could/shoud have gotten more than Aebischer.
Lol your right. Just don't like the results I'm reading I guess. And hate being wrong with my friend (think I have to take him to supper and he eats lots)
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Really? You're sure we lost the Shaw trade? You're sure we lost the Weber/Subban trade? You're sure we won the Eller trade? How do you know this if neither of these players and draft picks have played a single game with their new teams?
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Yeah I meant Sharks>Senators.
I actually take that one back though. It was a pretty fair trade, maybe Sens didn't get full value because Heatley was a huge baby.
Bumping the Jets/Sabres trade of 2015.Kane's value is at an all-time low and Bogo's injury troubles have followed him to Buffalo. Winnipeg won that trade.
Red
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Those two prospects are sure showing a hell of a lot of potential though compared to G. Reinhart. Plain and simple bad trade for Edmonton.
Halla
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a little early no? we turned Kessel into Andersen and Kapanen. strong playoffs aside, Kessel wasnt a fit in the top 6 and only had 59pts....
Halla
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huh? bboth these guys are afterthoughts...how is that a win?
also vanek was terrible in montreal and a ghost in the playoffs (even healthy scratched) how is that a win?
I love how the canucks lose both trades that involve Bonino. Apparently he had no value coming in but too much going out. Makes sense.
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likewise for phil. kessel as an 80pt player for us apparently has less value than a 60pt guy for the pens. easy to say phil isnt worth seguin, but seguin didnt do anything in boston. who do they have to show for that trade now? Jimmy Hayes?
