Does stuart skinner have fans?
At least two, here.
Does stuart skinner have fans?
Yes pls. What would you think the ask is?Devils fan here - we've had a rough few days. Would EDM be interested in Allen? He's 8th in Goals saved above expected this year, been a great teammate here too. Before Hughes' injury, wouldn't have traded him, but now we're in a bit of a different situation.
Carolina says no. Thats an insultingly low offer.Arvidsson, 26 1st, O'Reilly for Rantanen 625k Retained. Cap neutral.
If we're really not going to get a goalie we need to swing for the fences with the skaters.
That's more than what returned Ekholm plus 3 years. Rantanen is a pure rentalCarolina says no. Thats an insultingly low offer.
Why? I'd be surprised if there's a better offer than that out there.Carolina says no. Thats an insultingly low offer.
I'm usually a Glass Half Full fan but considering that the team has been outright terrible for a good 11-12 games now, all the rumors are pointing to them not interested in upgrading the goaltending (even if it's a smokescreen) and that they might not have any cap space because of the Kane situation something of which is still not, apparently, resolved right up to the deadline, it's understandable that the fanbase is on edge. At least going into previous deadlines, the team was generally playing well leading up to it but they've been terrible for a month so I think it's natural for fan frustration to be rising.The doom and gloom is hilarious.
I’m still not going to react until the deadline is done.
Carolina says no. Thats an insultingly low offer.
Not for an unsigned Rantanen. We are 7 points away from missing the playoffs. Just imagine if you will for a moment what we gave up for Frederic, plus another 1st and O'reilly and whatever we give up for a dman and we miss the playoffs and they all walk on July 1st. WE ARE DONE DONE for the next 7 years with no assets, no prospects, no draft picks, etc.Arvidsson, 26 1st, O'Reilly for Rantanen 625k Retained. Cap neutral.
If we're really not going to get a goalie we need to swing for the fences with the skaters.
You'd be surprised if there wasn't a better offer than a cap dump, a late first and an okay prospect?Why? I'd be surprised if there's a better offer than that out there.
They gave up more for Rantanen. Necas on his own is worth O'Reilly, 1st+For a rental? I think you've lost it but I'd consider adding more.
Carolina says no to 2 1st rounders? And a potential decent player at a reasonable price?Carolina says no. Thats an insultingly low offer.
Not for an unsigned Rantanen. We are 7 points away from missing the playoffs. Just imagine if you will for a moment what we gave up for Frederic, plus another 1st and O'reilly and whatever we give up for a dman and we miss the playoffs and they all walk on July 1st. WE ARE DONE DONE for the next 7 years with no assets, no prospects, no draft picks, etc.
Carolina lost that trade. They're likely not going to win another trade by trading Rantanen. Most likely have to cut their losses and take whatever is leftYou'd be surprised if there wasn't a better offer than a cap dump, a late first and an okay prospect?
They gave up more for Rantanen. Necas on his own is worth O'Reilly, 1st+
You'd be surprised if there wasn't a better offer than a cap dump, a late first and an okay prospect?
They gave up more for Rantanen. Necas on his own is worth O'Reilly, 1st+
Guentzel who is a lesser player than Rantanen last year went for Bunting (who was better than Arvidsson is right now), 2 good, one decent prospect, a first and a fifth.Carolina says no to 2 1st rounders? And a potential decent player at a reasonable price?
They have a guy who’s gonna walk. Their cheapo owner doesn’t like losing assets like that (like Guentzel last season)
Its for sure a low ball, but it’s a rental.
Teams will offer up far better players than Arvidsson. And almost every team in the playoffs has a guy like O'Reilly and a first.Yeah they did give up more for him. Not anyone else's problem.
The whole point is they're interested in trying to recoup some assets here instead of losing Necas for what amounts to nothing.
Guentzel looked way better on Carolina than Rantanen and he walked.Guentzel who is a lesser player than Rantanen last year went for Bunting (who was better than Arvidsson is right now), 2 good, one decent prospect, a first and a fifth.
There are teams who would give them a far better offer.
I should clarify. I'm saying 29-3 with slightly below average goaltending or better.That isn't what that means. It means we are 29-3-2 when we have .900 or better tending. The average for those 34 games is quite likely significantly higher than the league average of .901. The point is that the "cutoff point" at which the Oilers have a very good record is about the league average. I suspect this is the case for most teams in fact, just due to the maths, but it is likely a bit exaggerated with the higher scoring teams (as the Oilers are).
I doubt it. He was traded once already. He’s under performed and teams are aware of his asking price in FA.Guentzel who is a lesser player than Rantanen last year went for Bunting (who was better than Arvidsson is right now), 2 good, one decent prospect, a first and a fifth.
There are teams who would give them a far better offer.
Teams will offer up far better players than Arvidsson. And almost every team in the playoffs has a guy like O'Reilly and a first.
they way the NHL podcast eco system trotted Tlusty out after that trade and crowned them champions and praised him for it turn out like this is HILARIOUS.Carolina lost that trade. They're likely not going to win another trade by trading Rantanen. Most likely have to cut their losses and take whatever is left
Ultimately thats fair but there is like 5-6 playoff teams that can offer far better than Arvidsson, O'Reilly, 1st.I doubt it. He was traded once already. He’s under performed and teams are aware of his asking price in FA.
Guentzel is 100% a lower player. However this situation is much different. Especially from a team that lost all of their assets in a similar fashion before
Interesting listening to Spector this morning... Yes consider the source, but he says Kane is getting bought out this summer if he isn't moved before tomorrow.
Kane probably knows that he has played his last game as an Oiler and won't be doing them any favors.
Makes sense for why they acquired Frederic and Jones if this is remotely true.
It's going to cost something to move Arvidsson though, and thats lost in this. He is a 4mill player with an extra year left who can barely put up 3rd line numbers while almost exclusively playing with the best player in the league.I doubt Rantanen gets traded to Edmonton but the package would look similar to Arvid+1st+ good prospect and Carolina take that packages and trade it for someone like Rakell