HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread: From Here to Free Agency

[scrubadam]

I really don't think that's the reason why he stayed in the NCAA. He's still developing, but he's shown lots of promises so far. Taking his time is possibly a very wise decision, not a sign of him being unable.

Well I mean literally he does not feel he can handle the NHL so he stayed in the NCAA to develop. He is still developing and wants to develop in the NCAA because he knows he can't play in the NHL. If he felt he was physically and mentally strong enough he would have jumped. He would rather do NCAA than AHL which again would point to him not being NHL ready.
If he could play in the NHL he would have signed and taken his guranteed roster spot. 100% he would have played ahead of Veleno in these playoffs.
Hutson and Demidov jumped becausse they felt they were NHL ready and could make an NHL team. Clearly Hage didn't feel the same.
Unless you want to put on a tin foil hat and he was traded by the habs in the deal that was nixed and he decided instead of dealing with trade drama he would just stay in the NCAA and report to his new team next season.

 

[A55P2]

Well I mean literally he does not feel he can handle the NHL so he stayed in the NCAA to develop. He is still developing and wants to develop in the NCAA because he knows he can't play in the NHL. If he felt he was physically and mentally strong enough he would have jumped. He would rather do NCAA than AHL which again would point to him not being NHL ready.
If he could play in the NHL he would have signed and taken his guranteed roster spot. 100% he would have played ahead of Veleno in these playoffs.
Hutson and Demidov jumped becausse they felt they were NHL ready and could make an NHL team. Clearly Hage didn't feel the same.
Unless you want to put on a tin foil hat and he was traded by the habs in the deal that was nixed and he decided instead of dealing with trade drama he would just stay in the NCAA and report to his new team next season.

I think he knows he could handle being in the NHL, but probably not be as impactful next year as he'd like to be. Which we have seen time and time again with young players coming in. There's no shame in him developing an extra year in the NCAA. When I think about the 2nd C spot it's about the long term solution, which I think he'll be. But yes as far as next year goes, Hage probably wouldn't have been the solution. We'd still need a Trocheck type of guy.

 

[jrom]

I would prefer to add, as you can't solely build through the draft. Malenstyn if he hits free agency is definitely someone we should be interested in.

An Anderson - Danault - Malenstyn line would give us a true, physical 4th line with tons of speed, as Malenstyn is fast too. We'll see if he resigns in Buffalo.

Danault, imo, was a liability against Carolina. He doesn't have the speed to keep up to that pace, but he's only signed one more year & he was strong against TB & Buffalo.

I also like Drew O'Connor in Vancouver. 6'4, can really skate, can forecheck like a beast, pks, and can provide some offense. He's UFA in 2027. With Vancouver rebuilding, he should be available.

Both are better, bigger and younger than someone like Coleman (Calgary).

There isn't all that much coming other than Reinbacher on D. Engstrom seems to be more of what we already have.

Carrier is someone who should be moved too.

I hope they give Beck a chance next year to play on the 4th line with Danault mentoring him during his last season.

I like your suggestions of Malenstyn, don’t know O’Connor but it sounds like what is needed. Guys like Eric Robinson are the kind of 4th liner we need.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

You are proposing realistic solution for short term and I agree with you. But giving away all the prospects for Hishier or Thomas won't make the team legit for a long run. We are not deep enough to buy at a high price.

Yeah, I definitely don't want to give all our prospects away. I definitely prefer a patient approach otherwise we'll end up like Toronto. Always searching for that next player that will put you over the top.

It took Carolina, what? 7 years to get to SCF?

2 years ago we were 28th and drafting 5th overall. Our rise has been meteoritic.

We need to keep adding.

 

[vokiel]

I'll be happy if only one of Dach, Danault, Gallgher and Matheson comes back next season.

How about we take care of that from here to free agency?

 

[Bolduc of Hazzard]

We need to keep adding.

Just so I'm clear, the people who keep saying this, is it because they don't think this team will, or they just are stating the path?

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Hage
Reinbacher
Zharovsky
Paupanekis, Thorpe, Florian

We just need time and patience. I guess it's just not the purpose of this thread but trying to make it sooner will hurt the process. I hope we don't and stick to the plan.

Not only there is no guarantee that they will reach their potential, but we can't wait three years and plus, for them to develop, Suzuki has only 4 years left on that contract.

We need to solve the issues this summer.

 

[xposbrad]

We need players with energy, grit, who can score and hit. Definitely physical players or guys who play bigger than their actual size. Bobby McMann could be useful. I hope we keep our prospects because we are lacking depth, some of these guys we have now have no business being on a stanley cup contending team.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

The one saving grace the habs have is that Knies seems like he will still be available.

Leafs are wanting a dman, but will draft a forward 1st overall (likely)

Leafs may be the only team that views Reinbacher as having good value.

So, the acquiring Knies is still a possibility.


Would be nice to find another, younger Anderson, but a player like Voronkov would be huge, but a minimal acquisition.

Kesselring might be available, he would be a nice addition as a RHD.

Habs then could potentially offer sheet someone.

Should be a promising off season

 

[xposbrad]

Not only there is no guarantee that they will reach their potential, but we can't wait three years and plus, for them to develop, Suzuki has only 4 years left on that contract.

We need to solve the issues this summer.

We don't have a choice, we aren't 1 player away from winning the cup. You need some of those prospects to become good.

 

[Naslundforever]

We don't have a choice, we aren't 1 player away from winning the cup. You need some of those prospects to become good.

I 100% agree you don't have a choice.

The team hopefully has many.

 

[Flip The Bird]

Last thread hit 5k. Time for a new one with the season officially done.

Discuss our needs for:

2C
RD
Top 6 W
More size, physicality in bottom 6

Vegas signed Marner last off season, Carolina signed Ehlers, both changed their teams. A good offensive winger is what we need. Adds 40 goals without deleting nothing

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

We don't have a choice, we aren't 1 player away from winning the cup. You need some of those prospects to become good.

It's time to compete, we won't trade every prospects, but we need to get that #2C, Demidov needs some help, it's a great investment. We can't wait for Hage and play Demidov with scrubs...

What if Hage is a bust ? What if he's a winger and we just lost valuable contracts year for nothing ?

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Vegas signed Marner last off season, Carolina signed Ehlers, both changed their teams. A good offensive winger is what we need. Adds 40 goals without deleting nothing

Evans/Kapanen on the second line should be illegal, on the wing, you can put Newhook. The #2C is a priority, ideally, a winger and a center.

 

[Flip The Bird]

Evans/Kapanen on the second line should be illegal, on the wing, you can put Newhook. The #2C is a priority, ideally, a winger and a center.

No, need more offense on second line than Newhook.

 

[Jaynki]

The one saving grace the habs have is that Knies seems like he will still be available.

Leafs are wanting a dman, but will draft a forward 1st overall (likely)

Leafs may be the only team that views Reinbacher as having good value.

So, the acquiring Knies is still a possibility.


Would be nice to find another, younger Anderson, but a player like Voronkov would be huge, but a minimal acquisition.

Kesselring might be available, he would be a nice addition as a RHD.

Habs then could potentially offer sheet someone.

Should be a promising off season

Reinbacher has as much value for us.

For as good Dobson and Hutson are, we truly lack someone who has a long reach and can break the cycle on D. Reinbacher is exactly that, he is what we need on D.

I also don't think Knies is someone we should go for although i can see the fit. Will cost Hage++, Zharovsky ++. We already have more high end talent than Carolina, we have been beaten by quality depth and experience. Lets focus on this.

 

[Habssince89]

We need a C before thinking about Knies. We have some many wingers. If we can establish a proper C for Demidov, whoever is on the other wing doesn't need to be a world-beater for us to be successful. Going after another strong winger is putting the cart before the horse. I think we trade for a wing upgrade mid-season.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Just so I'm clear, the people who keep saying this, is it because they don't think this team will, or they just are stating the path?

For me, it's stating the path. I mean Carolina started with Slavin, Aho, Jarvis, Svechnikov, Staal etc, but over the years they've added Stankoven, Ehlers, Miller, Hall, etc.

You need to build around your core not tear it down. Carolina traded Necas, which got them Rantanen then Stankoven and 2 firsts from Dallas, which they were able to use one for Miller.

We're not as deep as people think we are prospect wise. If we trade Hage, Zharovsky & Reinbacher, then it kills our pool.

Imo, we can afford to trade 1, but putting 2 or all 3 into proposals is ridiculous.

I think Huges understands this though as he talks a lot about people who are in & around the same age who can grow with the team.

I also think our window doesn't truly open until Demidov, Slafkovsky & Hutson get more experience under their belt, and this run was a really good experience for them.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Kap couldn't make the line up with 0 points and Demidov had a decent series against BUF but was pretty much invisible outside of that. But fans expect Hage to come in during his Rookie year and anchor the second line and be close to PPG as a 2C.
Ya he is at least 2 or 3 playoff runs from establishing himself if ever.
If teams still want him you move him for a legit player.

No he is not. Demidov would have put up big points this season if he had linemates. Hage would likely be ready for the 27/28 playoffs,

 

[Kaiden Ghoul]

Look like William Karlsson could be on the out in Vegas, he would be my primary target.

Whitecloud in Calgary would also be sweet but less likely I think

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

We need a C before thinking about Knies. We have some many wingers. If we can establish a proper C for Demidov, whoever is on the other wing doesn't need to be a world-beater for us to be successful. Going after another strong winger is putting the cart before the horse. I think we trade for a wing upgrade mid-season.

You have to add players when they become available not in a particular order

 

[Habssince89]

For me, it's stating the path. I mean Carolina started with Slavin, Aho, Jarvis, Svechnikov, Staal etc, but over the years they've added Stankoven, Ehlers, Miller, Hall, etc.

You need to build around your core not tear it down. Carolina traded Necas, which got them Rantanen then Stankoven and 2 firsts from Dallas, which they were able to use one for Miller.

We're not as deep as people think we are prospect wise. If we trade Hage, Zharovsky & Reinbacher, then it kills our pool.

Imo, we can afford to trade 1, but putting 2 or all 3 into proposals is ridiculous.

I think Huges understands this though as he talks a lot about people who are in & around the same age who can grow with the team.

I also think our window doesn't truly open until Demidov, Slafkovsky & Hutson get more experience under their belt, and this run was a really good experience for them.

Agreed! One of those players might get dealt, but I think we see a current roster player be the basis for a big trade. I think KH will acquire players we don't expect along with a bigger name but a lot of it will be done via FA and draft trades IMO

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

No ne is not. Demidov would have put up bifg points this season if he had linemates. Hage would likely be ready for the 27/28 playoffs,

Highly unlikely.

 

[expy]

Hage
Reinbacher
Zharovsky
Paupanekis, Thorpe, Florian

We just need time and patience. I guess it's just not the purpose of this thread but trying to make it sooner will hurt the process. I hope we don't and stick to the plan.

What plan? Be "patient" and "hope" that things pan out? That's loser mentality, you need to be proactive. You can't wait for those guys and hope that they turn out to be great players, you'll just waste the rest of your roster's prime.

 

[Habssince89]

You add players when they become available not in a particualr order

Sure but are we really going to break the bank on Knies when we obviously need a C?