HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #93: Y'all got any more of those 2nd line centers out there?

[Scriptor]

You had me until the Demidov part. Hes a 3C at best.

I disagree. Not being an elite 2C (which Zacha is not) does nutmeat you are a 3C at best.

Get real for a second.

Demidov could benefit from playing with Zacha,but not because Zacha is a premiere playmaker. Zacha retrieves pucks and can crash the net, plus he has a good shot for Demidov to set up.

 

[Scriptor]

Looking at most of his career, yeah, and some mentioned he was carried by Pastrnak, which might be true, but he created space for Pasta too, something he may be able to do with Demidov.

I'm an idealist though, but I may still pull the trigger if it's for Newhook, even as a 3C, he'd still bring something we lack.

Zacha would bring something we lack as a 3C, for sure, especially if you have more of an offensive third line, but he can well be a stop-gap as a 2C until someone steps up that can be a better 2C. Then, Zacha can slide to 3C, or be a winger on that line and still be useful (some might think, more useful).

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

You’re making a bunch of unproven statements but besides that, you can and usually do include sending back some money in a trade due to cap considerations. Besides, who was the last UFA who was worth the deal they signed? Most times it’s a massive overpayment for subpar performances.

Again, anything over $7Mish for Bennett would be a massive overpayment and would be a last resort for a desperate team. I’m sure Habs will exhaust all possible possibilities before they would consider offering such an albatross of a contract, if they even would.

Well, who do you want for a center? We signed a lot of good UFAs, Toffoli, Cammarelli, Radulov, Hamrlik. You don't want to avoid the free agent market because of fear of over spending.

The trade market for top 2 centers going to be sky high, if you can find one. Many teams looking.

Rossi I like if you going trade route. Shouldn't have to give up a core piece like others. Maybe a first, prospect and one of our young centers get it done. I liked Rossi in his draft year and he plays well with Kaprizov. He should be good with Demidov. Tons of upside there. Good compete level.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Zacha as the 3C would be really nice.

 

[Mrb1p]

I disagree. Not being an elite 2C (which Zacha is not) does nutmeat you are a 3C at best.

Get real for a second.

Demidov could benefit from playing with Zacha,but not because Zacha is a premiere playmaker. Zacha retrieves pucks and can crash the net, plus he has a good shot for Demidov to set up.

Eeerhm I always get Faksa and Zacha confused. My mistake.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Id say McT is pretty much their best player.

Its pretty much the same contract Suzuki signed.

Internally the ducks see Carlsson as their #1 C right now. McTavish is their #2.

If Carlsson breaks out with a 60/70pts season, he will be asking for north of 11M if McTavish got 9.3.

 

[Mrb1p]

Internally the ducks see Carlsson as their #1 C right now. McTavish is their #2.

If Carlsson breaks out with a 60/70pts season, he will be asking for north of 11M if McTavish got 9.3.

Yes, but right now Mctavish is their best player.

Theyll both be paid 9-11 millions.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Yes, but right now Mctavish is their best player.

Theyll both be paid 9-11 millions.

Not to mention, Ducks have neaarly $40M in cap space next year, they have the room to match any offer sheet on McTavish.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Yes, but right now Mctavish is their best player.

Theyll both be paid 9-11 millions.

They already think Carlsson is their best player. Either way, if some people think McTavish is better right now, it doesn't mean much, because that could easily change in the short term.

The ducks have a multitude of players who will be seeking raises in the next few years and will likely outproduce McTavish. If they set McTavish at 9.5%+ of their cap from the get go, they will be in trouble.

That spot belongs to Carlsson because he will likely be the best player on that team for a long time and set the bar for other contracts. Just like Suzuki did with Montreal.

Verbeek has also stated that he prefers doing bridge deals rather than doing longterm out of the ELC. So I see them trying to sign McTavish for like 6M for 2-3 years.

But offering him 9.3M longterm would hinder their cap structure, no matter how much room they have, every player on their ELC just becomes more expensive.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

They already think Carlsson is their best player. Either way, if some people think McTavish is better right now, it doesn't mean much, because that could easily change in the short term.

The ducks have a multitude of players who will be seeking raises in the next few years and will likely outproduce McTavish. If they set McTavish at 9.5%+ of their cap from the get go, they will be in trouble.

That spot belongs to Carlsson because he will likely be the best player on that team for a long time and set the bar for other contracts. Just like Suzuki did with Montreal.

Verbeek has also stated that he prefers doing bridge deals rather than doing longterm out of the ELC. So I see them trying to sign McTavish for like 6M for 2-3 years.

But offering him 9.3M longterm would hinder their cap structure, no matter how much room they have, every player on their ELC just becomes more expensive.

They have well over 45 mil in caproom and the cap will be going up 5 to 10 mil each year

 

[BenchBrawl]

Hage, 16 & 17 for McTavish?

The new Halak, Ryder and 2nd.

 

[vokiel]

Hage, 16 & 17 for McTavish?

The new Halak, Ryder and 2nd.

Give up already.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Give up already.

No. We need a reliable 2C to play with Demidov and construct a powerful 2nd line.

 

[DAChampion]

Hage, 16 & 17 for McTavish?

The new Halak, Ryder and 2nd.

Hage, 16, 17 is an outstanding package. It would be among the best offers of the salary cap era.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Usually young impact players are only traded 1 for 1 for other young impact players.

Hage, 16, 17 isn't enough for a team to give up a 26 and under 2C that's actually good. There would be 0 reason for them to do that.

 

[Habitant#1]

So uh, if there's no 2C that we want... are there any 1Cs we can acquire?

 

[Andrei79]

McTavish is going no where, why are people bringing him up ?

 

[Ozmodiar]

Like I said, to be truly useful, Newhook needs to find a way to truly reinvent himself.

Far from a done deal. If we have better options by the time we are ready to challenge for a Cup, thinking that Newhook is a swell guy that works really hard shouldn't be a factor.

1. He has to play PK.

2. He could be a key future piece, considering 2 vets out this year and 2 more 2 years from now. Nice to believe 4 spots will be filled with prospects but we know that’s unlikely.

If he is moved for a key piece, fine, but he certainly isn’t a throw-in at this point.

 

[FLHabs]

Any talk of trading Hage sounds borderline blasphemous to me. Y'all got no heart man

 

[HuGo Sham]

Hage, 16, 17 is an outstanding package. It would be among the best offers of the salary cap era.

and there's a legitimate argument to be made that Hage would go top 10 this year. ..ignore the trolls on the main board, that's a significant trade package - as you said.
Problem is, there's no f***ing way I'm trading Hage, and I believe HuGo agrees

 

[Ozmodiar]

Hage, 16 & 17 for McTavish?

The new Halak, Ryder and 2nd.

McTavish overrated here, I see.

 

[salbutera]

Hage, 16, 17 is an outstanding package. It would be among the best offers of the salary cap era.

Ana will never make that deal - they don’t need picks or prospects.

Verbeek & the owner have been clear, next year is all about making the playoffs, which is why Quenneville has been brought in

 

[Habitant#1]

Unless McTavish's father in law happens to be from Longueuil, there's no way he's coming here.

 

[Laboeuf]

Boston doesn't do that. Pretty sure they'll try to go back to the POs next year.

Boston will do anything to tank for the 2026 draft.

Top 5 are projected to be franchise players.

 

[Laboeuf]

3 things I will guarantee will happen.

1. Cayden Primeau will be traded
2. Filip Mesar will be a throw in trade
3. Habs won’t trade or sign anyone under 6’0”.