HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #93: Y'all got any more of those 2nd line centers out there?

All-in scenario

Laine to NYR for Lafreniere
NYR does it to move out from Laf contract and only have Laine for 1 more year

2025 1st x 2 + Matheson + Beck to Pitts for Crosby

2026 1st + Hage + Struble to NYI for Dobson

Dobes to Edmonton for Sam O'Reilly

In: Crosby, Laf, Dobson, Sam O'Reilly
Out: Beck, Matheson, Hage, Struble, Dobes, 2025 1st x 2, 2026 1st

Slaf - Suzuki - Caufield
Laf - Crosby - Demidov
Heinemen - Dach - Newhook
Anderson - Evans - Gally
Kapanen

Guhle - Dobson
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Mailloux
Carrier

Monty
Primeau
Fowler

Future centre depth take a hit in this scenario, and we are banking on riding Crosby for 3-4 more years. That gives us time to replace Hage and Beck. O'Reilly projects as a bottom 6 but could still develop.

Suzuki - 25
Crosby - 38
Dach - 24
Newhook -24
Evans - 29
Kapanen - 22
O'Reilly - 19

LW and RW is solidified in this scenario as well as our top 4 defence. Dobson and Guhle would be a massive top pair.

Edmonton is desperate for goaltending. I'd ask for O'Reilly or Savoie or 2027 1st from them, with O'Reilly being their most likely to trade.
 
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I’m really only interested in adding size/grit if it comes along with skill and a clear role. We would not be the first team to shoot themselves in the foot over-compensating after a heavy playoffs. Adding a physical dimension to our bottom lines (Armia/Dvorak) would make a big difference. A big RD that can PK would be great too.

Kesselring and Crouse could be good fits. Utah has more than enough RD on the team and in the pipeline, Crouse looks like he could use a change of scenery.
Crouse is a "good" fit only if you let players in the bottom 6 go (Armia, Anderson or Gallagher). He's not a top 6 player by any stretch of the imagination.
 
It's so damn frustrating that we traded away precisely the player that we desperately need, who would allow Hutson to play on the left as he should, in Kovacevic.

Kova is not good enough for a 1st pairing. It would be a very short term bandaid.

Kovacevic should’ve been retained, if Reinbacher had earned a spot out of camp Hughes could’ve waived or traded him at that time… anyway…

Kovacevic would’ve wanted a big contract given his career trajectory and earnings, this summer would’ve been his one chance at big money. (He’s since taken it)
 
All-in scenario

Laine to NYR for Lafreniere
NYR does it to move out from Laf contract and only have Laine for 1 more year

2025 1st x 2 + Matheson + Beck to Pitts for Crosby

2026 1st + Hage + Struble to NYI for Dobson

Dobes to Edmonton for Sam O'Reilly

In: Crosby, Laf, Dobson, Sam O'Reilly
Out: Beck, Matheson, Hage, Struble, Dobes, 2025 1st x 2, 2026 1st

Slaf - Suzuki - Caufield
Laf - Crosby - Demidov
Heinemen - Dach - Newhook
Anderson - Evans - Gally
Kapanen

Guhle - Dobson
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Mailloux
Carrier

Monty
Primeau
Fowler

Future centre depth take a hit in this scenario, and we are banking on riding Crosby for 3-4 more years. That gives us time to replace Hage and Beck. O'Reilly projects as a bottom 6 but could still develop.

Suzuki - 25
Crosby - 38
Dach - 24
Newhook -24
Evans - 29
Kapanen - 22
O'Reilly - 19

LW and RW is solidified in this scenario as well as our top 4 defence. Dobson and Guhle would be a massive top pair.

Edmonton is desperate for goaltending. I'd ask for O'Reilly or Savoie or 2027 1st from them, with O'Reilly being their most likely to trade.
The Crosby thing isn't happening and never will.. People need to give up on this idea that it will. Teams don't just give up on 1st round picks, so Lad isn't getting traded for Laine.

Dobson has more Value that that. Islanders aren't rebuilding with Lou still there. You're literally only giving up a top prospect and 1st round pick isn't going to convince islanders to part with him and other teams will outbid this.
 
Larkin's exit comments seem like he isn't down for more rebuilding. What price is worth it for a guy who is likely a 60 point guy behind Nick? Also keeping in mind Detroit would want a ransom to deal him within the division. They might think Kasper/Danielson are top 6 C's going forward.

Both firsts and a prospect too much?
Larkin's around a point per game player on a really weak team. He's a 1C. The costs would be substantial.
 
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Not ready to start talking about which players to target and who we can live without going forward, but last night was quite evident that changes are needed for us to be serious contenders going forward. A top defenseman and a real #2 center is badly needed..
 
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Crouse is a "good" fit only if you let players in the bottom 6 go (Armia, Anderson or Gallagher). He's not a top 6 player by any stretch of the imagination.

Yes, replacing Armia’s role as a two-way bottom-6 winger and bringing more physical play. He’s shown in previous seasons he can be a complementary player and contribute on both special teams - I like the versatility and experience if he gets back on track.

I’d anticipate something like:

Crouse-XXXX-Anderson
Heineman-Evans-Gallagher
 
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Yes, replacing Armia’s role as a two-way bottom-6 winger and bringing more physical play. He’s shown in previous seasons he can be a complementary player and contribute on both special teams - I like the versatility and experience if he gets back on track.

I’d anticipate something like:

Crouse-XXXX-Anderson
Heineman-Evans-Gallagher
If we could find a way to replace Newhook with Crouse I’d be ecstatic.

Hopefully we can buy low on him. Looks like he had a bad year compared to his usual 40 ish points he puts up.

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Laine - Duchene (praying he signs) - Demidov
Crouse - Dach / Beck - Anderson
Heineman - Evan - Gallagher
Call ups - Kapanen, F.Xhejak, Roy (though I suspect he’s done here)

Crouse is at 4.5 million I believe, but getting rid of Newhook and letting Dvorak and Armia go offsets that and then some.

No idea what Duchene would cost at his age, but he’s still a PPG center so.. offer him whatever on a 3 year deal. We need him.

Overall a massive upgrade offensively. Downgrade on faceoffs and defense letting Dvorak walk for Beck / Dach, and losing Armia’s elite penalty killing.. but changes we need to make. Time to move on from them, and more importantly Newhook.
 
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If we could find a way to replace Newhook with Crouse I’d be ecstatic.

Hopefully we can buy low on him. Looks like he had a bad year compared to his usual 40 ish points he puts up.

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Laine - Duchene (praying he signs) - Demidov
Crouse - Dach / Beck - Anderson
Heineman - Evan - Gallagher

Crouse is at 4.5 million I believe, but getting rid of Newhook and letting Dvorak and Armia go offsets that and then some.

No idea what Duchene would cost at his age, but he’s still a PPG center so.. offer him whatever on a 3 year deal. We need him.
Crouse - Dach - Anderson as a 3rd line would give teams fits.
 
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Offersheet Cuylle? 45 points and 4th in the league in hits. Exactly what we need.
Until he joins the team, goes on a 20 game pointless streak and fans hate him like they hate almost every non-first line player all because they don't realize that unless you're a star, all offensive players in the 30-40 point range will have long stretches of 0s.
 
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Crouse is a 4th liner and Anderson too. We need scoring talent on the 3rd line too.
The 3rd line scored 48 goals this year: 15 Anderson, 21 Gallagher, 12 Dvo.

I wonder how that compares to other teams.

I've quickly looked other teams, and I don't see many above that range for their 3rd line.
 
The 3rd line scored 48 goals this year: 15 Anderson, 21 Gallagher, 12 Dvo.

I wonder how that compares to other teams.
We had a really good bottom six this year:

Gallagher - Dvo - Anderson
Heineman - Evan's- Armia (when healthy)

Hugo will have some decisions to make, because Newhook and Dach should start in the bottom 6, plus Kapanen, Roy, and Beck are waiting in the wings. Easy decision based on age is Newhook replaces Dvo and Dach replaces Armia.

Then you get a 2c for Laine and Demidov, and perhaps an upgrade on Laine
 
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We had a really good bottom six this year:

Gallagher - Dvo - Anderson
Heineman - Evan's- Armia (when healthy)

Hugo will have some decisions to make, because Newhook and Dach should start in the bottom 6, plus Kapanen, Roy, and Beck are waiting in the wings. Easy decision based on age is Newhook replaces Dvo and Dach replaces Armia.

Then you get a 2c for Laine and Demidov, and perhaps an upgrade on Laine
The bottom 6 scored 82 goals by my quick math.

I wonder how that fairs compared to most of the league. Ive been doing spot checks since my post above and I don't see many other teams bottom 6 scoring more than that.
 
I'll throw to you guys some unsexy names as a realistic potential left-handed C acquisition :

Suter (VAN, UFA) : 4 x 4mish

Zacha or Mittelstadt (BOS)

Colton (COL) : Although he's not used as a C this year (doesn't take faceoff). COL could be open to trade him if Landeskog has a successful recovery and/or they re-signed Nelson.

Sharangovich (CGY) : A bit more of a projected as a C (he mostly played as a winger). He had a down year, so low value considering his new contract.

What do you think about those players? I don't want an other thread about Bennett or Horvat
That would’ve been an ok list at the trade deadline when time and availability of players are limited, but not over the summer when you have all the freedom in the world to explore and make a move for the foreseeable future.
 

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