HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread 92 Waiting on the DRAFT Edition

Nelson is going to the wild. Boeser might end up going to the wild also. But Nelson is all but a sure thing to get signed by the Minnesota wild to return home.
If Minnesota sign both, they might need to move some cap space. $22,5m with only 15 players signed for next season and Rossi is apparently asking for $9m ( I read it in here so might not be true).
 
You can offer but why would they accept this?
No idea - all I know is Dolan has already started frothing at the mouth and said the team will retool on the fly.

Laviolette was supposed to be the last resort for saving private Lafreniere… it hasn’t worked 3G in last 30GP start of a long term $7M deal.

Laine’s “name brand” will sell in that market, and NYR young D have stalled & even regressed

IMO, he needs a change of scenery & team culture.
 
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No idea - all I know is Dolan has already started frothing at the mouth and said the team will retool on the fly.

Laviolette was supposed to be the last resort for saving private Lafreniere… it hasn’t worked 3G in last 30GP start of a long term $7M deal.

Laine’s “name brand” will sell in that market

IMO, he needs a change of scenery & team culture.
Laine for Laf straight up. No need to include X.

Slaf - Suzuki - Caufield
Laf - Dach - Demi
Heinemen - Newhook - Beck
Andy - Evans - Gally

Id roll with those forward lines.
 
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Man I'd love to have Cuylle on this team.

He was someone I wanted Habs to draft in 2020.

Habs took Guhle in the 1st. And they had back-to-back picks in the 2nd. I wanted Tuch and Cuylle. They took Tuch and Mysak. Cuylle went later in the 2nd to Rangers.

Rangers took Lafreniere 1st OA. Took Scheider 19th OA. And then took Cuylle 60th OA.
 
If we packaged both 1sts how far could we move up

Draft pick valuation charts differ depending on team, and get refined each year with more analytics, and how different scouting staff see each draft class.

Long story short, there are no absolutes.

But if we look at some of the charts available that were put together by semi-credible sources (Examining the value of NHL Draft picks - Sound Of Hockey), picks 16 (Calgary's) and 17 (currently where ours would land) would have close to the same value combined as the #4 or #5 overall pick in a vacuum.

With Pittsburgh's 2nd-round pick added, we could maybe even get up to #3 if a team elects to go for quantity of picks vs. quality.

Those equations rarely hold up 1-to-1 though, and teams will generally put a premium on quality and not want to downgrade their high picks too much. So we rarely see a purely quantity-for-quality trade at the top of the first-round.

Depending on who's available to draft after the midway point of the top-10, it might make sense for us to move and get a second-line center of the future (Caleb Desnoyers).
 
Draft pick valuation charts differ depending on team, and get refined each year with more analytics, and how different scouting staff see each draft class.

Long story short, there are no absolutes.

But if we look at some of the charts available that were put together by semi-credible sources (Examining the value of NHL Draft picks - Sound Of Hockey), picks 16 (Calgary's) and 17 (currently where ours would land) would have close to the same value combined as the #4 or #5 overall pick in a vacuum.

With Pittsburgh's 2nd-round pick added, we could maybe even get up to #3 if a team elects to go for quantity of picks vs. quality.

Those equations rarely hold up 1-to-1 though, and teams will generally put a premium on quality and not want to downgrade their high picks too much. So we rarely see a purely quantity-for-quality trade at the top of the first-round.

Depending on who's available to draft after the midway point of the top-10, it might make sense for us to move and get a second-line center of the future (Caleb Desnoyers).

I'd also argue that Montreal should probably stick where they are and gamble on talent and upside more than trying to trade as high as they can.

For one, a second-line center of the future isn't always that. Montreal's got two young "C" who were each pretty consistently seen as a "second-line center of the future" league wide both before and after they were selected (Dach and Newhook). The reason that people are talking about drafting a C is because they weren't.

And teams with lots of kicks at the can consistently take risks because they feel they can. I don't think its a coincidence that Montreal took Hutson as their 4th pick in 2022.
 

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