HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread 92 Waiting on the DRAFT Edition

[vokiel]

Lets sidetrack this thread a bit.. Can we get our hands on Oliver Bonk or would it costs us too much for what he's worth?

 

[Mrb1p]

Lets sidetrack this thread a bit.. Can we get our hands on Oliver Bonk or would it costs us too much for what he's worth?

We need players that are developped IMO. And theres no reasons for Philly to trade him. Hes their best RD.

 

[overlords]

It sure is a shame that we need to focus on a 2c and RD because I would be all in on offersheeting Will Cuylle.

 

[TomKosto]

So when did Crosby himself tell you he's retiring? The second he's only an 81 point player instead of 82? 98 years old?

You insinuated that Crosby won't retire while he's still excelling, Bergeron was still excelling and still retired. The Kane talk was about how legends past their prime can dictate where they want to go meaning they won't cost an arm and a leg to acquire

Hey it’s the Kane and Bergeron argument again!! Lmfao

My point is that he wont stop until he’s top5 in points (without injuries), and I think it’s a safer bet than your example with Bergeron and Kane. Both were not even close to accomplish what Sid can in the next 4-5 years. Anyway we just repeat ourself, enjoy the last word I guess. Can’t wait to pop this up in two years when he sign a new contract. Your name gonna be easy to remember.

 

[The Great Weal]

Hey it’s the Kane and Bergeron argument again!! Lmfao

My point is that he wont stop until he’s top5 in points (without injuries), and I think it’s a safer bet than your example with Bergeron and Kane. Both were not even close to accomplish what Sid can in the next 4-5 years. Anyway we just repeat ourself, enjoy the last word I guess. Can’t wait to pop this up in two years when he sign a new contract. Your name gonna be easy to remember.

You're talking to ghosts, I never said Bergeron and Kane are comparable players to Crosby. In fact I've repeatedly said that Crosby is the better player.

Sid is older and better than Kane, but the point is that the Hawks traded him where he wants to go as they were also going to tank.

I brought up Bergeron to show that you can still retire despite still playing at a high level meaning that your point on "being over PPG" is not proof of him definitely not retiring TWO YEARS LATER. I brought up Kane to show that a respected legend past his prime who agrees to leave his team will get traded wherever that player he chooses meaning that the cost won't be astronomical like 3 1sts.

Popping this up in two years won't mean shit because you've still yet to say when he's retiring without speculating, you're actively dodging the questions because you know that you have no clue on when he's retiring which very well could be after his current contract.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Pittsburgh isn't tanking.

But they should. And maybe they will after this year. We'll see I guess.

I realize the possibility of Crosby is remote. We'll probably never get him. But Pittsburgh need to understand that they're not going anywhere anytime soon.

I totally understand if they want to keep Crosby as he's a legend, but if they want to think long term, the right move is to trade him while he has value.

 

[Cold Coffee]

Build a realistic 2025-26 roster (based on current information) with a blank spot where we have an unknown. For me:

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield
Laine - C2 - Demidov
Anderson - Newhook - Gallagher
Heineman - Evans - RW4

Threats: Beck, Kapanen
Concern - Losing Dvorak's face-off abilities with no replacement
RW4 is not a concern but who takes that spot is TBD

Traded/UFA: Dach, Dvorak, Armia

Hutson - RD1
Guhle - Reinbacher
Struble - Carrier
Xhekaj

Concern - Weak veteran presence without Matheson and Savard. It could matter or not at all.

Traded/UFA: Matheson, Savard

Montembeault
Dobes

 

[waitin425]

If we park our Crosby dreaming for a minute.....let's take a look at some other options.

The Leafs fans are talking about 8+ million for Knies....lmao.....and will likely have to do something for Marner in the 13 million range....also LMAO......unless Tavares takes a massive hometown discount from the Leafs....he could be a target for a UFA signing.

This year he is 36G+34A and is slightly over PPG. He averages near PPG annually.

He turns 35 on Sept 20.

I would offer him a 4 year contract at 7.875 million per year. Free asset and a 2C who can still put up some offence.

My 2nd target is Charlie McAvoy. He is going to cost an arm and a leg. But he is a RD on a team that may pull the trigger on a rebuild....I suspect they retool....but this is my fantasy land.

9.5 million for 5 more years. 27 years old.

Trade a significant package for this guy......Beck+Matheson+2 x 2025 1sts

Finally, I am beating around the idea of resigning Dvo. It will largely depend on how he plays in the playoffs...but I have been very impressed with him for the past month or so and I feel like he has landed where he should right now.

Slaf - Suzuki - Caufield
Laine - Tavares - Demidov
Anderson - Dvorak - Gally
Newhook - Evans - Dach
Heinemen/Kapanen

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - McAvoy
Xhekaj - Carrier
Struble

 

[waitin425]

Build a realistic 2025-26 roster (based on current information) with a blank spot where we have an unknown. For me:

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield
Laine - C2 - Demidov
Anderson - Newhook - Gallagher
Heineman - Evans - RW4

Threats: Beck, Kapanen
Concern - Losing Dvorak's face-off abilities with no replacement
RW4 is not a concern but who takes that spot is TBD

Traded/UFA: Dach, Dvorak, Armia

Hutson - RD1
Guhle - Reinbacher
Struble - Carrier
Xhekaj

Concern - Weak veteran presence without Matheson and Savard. It could matter or not at all.

Traded/UFA: Matheson, Savard

Montembeault
Dobes

See my roster. Also....what are you doing with Dach?

 

[Paradoxe]

until KH gets a centre this wont die of SC coming to MTL

I'm a lunatic, and this is way over the top for me.

 

[Paradoxe]

It sure is a shame that we need to focus on a 2c and RD because I would be all in on offersheeting Will Cuylle.

me too

 

[waitin425]

I hope we aren't picking in the first round this year.

Trade #16 + #32 in a package for one of a #2C or Top 4 RD

 

[Cold Coffee]

If we park our Crosby dreaming for a minute.....let's take a look at some other options.

The Leafs fans are talking about 8+ million for Knies....lmao.....and will likely have to do something for Marner in the 13 million range....also LMAO......unless Tavares takes a massive hometown discount from the Leafs....he could be a target for a UFA signing.

This year he is 36G+34A and is slightly over PPG. He averages near PPG annually.

He turns 35 on Sept 20.

I would offer him a 4 year contract at 7.875 million per year. Free asset and a 2C who can still put up some offence.

My 2nd target is Charlie McAvoy. He is going to cost an arm and a leg. But he is a RD on a team that may pull the trigger on a rebuild....I suspect they retool....but this is my fantasy land.

9.5 million for 5 more years. 27 years old.

Trade a significant package for this guy......Beck+Matheson+2 x 2025 1sts

Finally, I am beating around the idea of resigning Dvo. It will largely depend on how he plays in the playoffs...but I have been very impressed with him for the past month or so and I feel like he has landed where he should right now.

Slaf - Suzuki - Caufield
Laine - Tavares - Demidov
Anderson - Dvorak - Gally
Newhook - Evans - Dach
Heinemen/Kapanen

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - McAvoy
Xhekaj - Carrier
Struble

I like both ideas.

Tavares could be an excellent stop gap until Hage is ready. It would allow us to have patience and let him develop properly while being competitive in the present.

If Tavares refused to come here, we could pursue Duchene or ROR for the veteran C role.

McAvoy would be an outstanding acquisition for the present and the long run. Whether or not the Bruins would trade him to Montreal is an entirely different story. Nonetheless, I would love to land him and that top 4 looks great.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

No, its not.

Not sure what part of my post you're replying to here.

And frankly after the Bergevin years of trying to build a team around early 20s players and mid-30s players, I'm surprised so many people are so in favour of that approach all of a sudden.

The core is built. We have a whack of players 25 and under who are going to lead us to contention. Now it's about adding to it. Crosby doesn't get in the way of anyone. We badly need another center and he'd give us the luxury of having two number ones.

And its very clearly about the cost. Because the cost to acquire a Crosby, assuming he'd be available (which is incredibly unlikely), would be significant. And Montreal's situation is not so secure that they can just pay that cost.

The Canadiens have stockpiled picks and prospects for a long time now. We have excess prospects and it's okay to move some of that out for something that can help us in the immediate. The core is built.

Like if the argument is that its adding "a 90 point player to fill a glaring need" irrespective of feasibility or cost, then I want Barkov or Eichel or McDavid or Draisaitl. Or start with the baseline that no one posting here is against Montreal getting better, its just that posters disagree on how to do that.

Three picks don't get McDavid. If it did, I'd be happy to pay for him too.

It might get Crosby - if he's available at all.

And I'm not against Montreal adding veterans. I want the team to see what it would cost to acquire Weegar. I'd like to see if they can sign a guy like Duchene to a big money short term deal. I just think the cost that Crosby would have in a trade doesn't make sense for where Montreal is and that by the time Montreal will really contend that chances are Crosby wont be what he is now.

With Crosby in the lineup, I think we become contenders right away.

 

[Miller Time]

It sure is a shame that we need to focus on a 2c and RD because I would be all in on offersheeting Will Cuylle.

As others have pointed out, OS to get him likely needs to be in the range requiring a 1st as compensation.

This squad adding only Cuylle would still be at risk of injuries pushing us into lottery territory. Can't be giving up a potential ticket in the McKenna sweepstakes just for Cuylle.

If we had RD &/or 2C upgrades also in place, then I'd be more in favour, but as our main focus? No thanks

 

[overlords]

As others have pointed out, OS to get him likely needs to be in the range requiring a 1st as compensation.

This squad adding only Cuylle would still be at risk of injuries pushing us into lottery territory. Can't be giving up a potential ticket in the McKenna sweepstakes just for Cuylle.

If we had RD &/or 2C upgrades also in place, then I'd be more in favour, but as our main focus? No thanks

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

If we park our Crosby dreaming for a minute.....let's take a look at some other options.

The Leafs fans are talking about 8+ million for Knies....lmao.....and will likely have to do something for Marner in the 13 million range....also LMAO......unless Tavares takes a massive hometown discount from the Leafs....he could be a target for a UFA signing.

This year he is 36G+34A and is slightly over PPG. He averages near PPG annually.

He turns 35 on Sept 20.

I would offer him a 4 year contract at 7.875 million per year. Free asset and a 2C who can still put up some offence.

My 2nd target is Charlie McAvoy. He is going to cost an arm and a leg. But he is a RD on a team that may pull the trigger on a rebuild....I suspect they retool....but this is my fantasy land.

9.5 million for 5 more years. 27 years old.

Trade a significant package for this guy......Beck+Matheson+2 x 2025 1sts

Finally, I am beating around the idea of resigning Dvo. It will largely depend on how he plays in the playoffs...but I have been very impressed with him for the past month or so and I feel like he has landed where he should right now.

Slaf - Suzuki - Caufield
Laine - Tavares - Demidov
Anderson - Dvorak - Gally
Newhook - Evans - Dach
Heinemen/Kapanen

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - McAvoy
Xhekaj - Carrier
Struble

Interesting takes, but significant overpay for me. Intrigued by McAvoy, if he can stay healthy, but he plays for a traditional rival. Also, Tavares is a Leafs at heart. If Dvo signs at market value in a way that still makes him tradeable in the future, I would not be opposed to signing him. Yes, he was unmotivated for a long time, but perhaps with this team and coach, what we are seeing could be the level we could expect in the future.

 

[Mrb1p]

Build a realistic 2025-26 roster (based on current information) with a blank spot where we have an unknown. For me:

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield
Laine - Crosby - Demidov
Anderson - Newhook - Davidson/Xhekaj/Dach/Kapanen
Heineman - Evans - Davidson/Xhekaj/Dach/Kapanen

Threats: Beck, Kapanen
Concern - Losing Dvorak's face-off abilities with no replacement
RW4 is not a concern but who takes that spot is TBD

Traded/UFA: Dach, Dvorak, Armia

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - Carrier
Xhekaj - Schneider
Struble

Concern - Weak veteran presence without Matheson and Savard. It could matter or not at all.

Traded/UFA: Matheson, Savard

Montembeault
Dobes

Crosby for Beck + 1st + Mailloux

Schneider for MM + Roy

Schneider ain't a vet, but he has upside, is pretty big and would fit very well on our 3rd pair. This all hinges on Reinbachers ability to regain form and Crosby lmao.

If Crosby isn't available, I'm sure Beck + 1st + Mailloux can get us a guy like ROR, or whatever. Also offers to Duchene and Tavares could work provided theres no 8 million BS.

 

[TomKosto]

You're talking to ghosts, I never said Bergeron and Kane are comparable players to Crosby. In fact I've repeatedly said that Crosby is the better player.


I brought up Bergeron to show that you can still retire despite still playing at a high level meaning that your point on "being over PPG" is not proof of him definitely not retiring TWO YEARS LATER. I brought up Kane to show that a respected legend past his prime who agrees to leave his team will get traded wherever that player he chooses meaning that the cost won't be astronomical like 3 1sts.

Popping this up in two years won't mean shit because you've still yet to say when he's retiring without speculating, you're actively dodging the questions because you know that you have no clue on when he's retiring which very well could be after his current contract.

I just said I think hes going for the record and be a top5 alltime to ur point that he’s got nothing else to win. Are u gonna ignore that and keep returning to the Bergeron thing for the 20th time?

 

[Mrb1p]

If we park our Crosby dreaming for a minute.....let's take a look at some other options.

The Leafs fans are talking about 8+ million for Knies....lmao.....and will likely have to do something for Marner in the 13 million range....also LMAO......unless Tavares takes a massive hometown discount from the Leafs....he could be a target for a UFA signing.

This year he is 36G+34A and is slightly over PPG. He averages near PPG annually.

He turns 35 on Sept 20.

I would offer him a 4 year contract at 7.875 million per year. Free asset and a 2C who can still put up some offence.

My 2nd target is Charlie McAvoy. He is going to cost an arm and a leg. But he is a RD on a team that may pull the trigger on a rebuild....I suspect they retool....but this is my fantasy land.

9.5 million for 5 more years. 27 years old.

Trade a significant package for this guy......Beck+Matheson+2 x 2025 1sts

Finally, I am beating around the idea of resigning Dvo. It will largely depend on how he plays in the playoffs...but I have been very impressed with him for the past month or so and I feel like he has landed where he should right now.

Slaf - Suzuki - Caufield
Laine - Tavares - Demidov
Anderson - Dvorak - Gally
Newhook - Evans - Dach
Heinemen/Kapanen

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - McAvoy
Xhekaj - Carrier
Struble

He says to park the Crosby dream and then comes back in with a top 5 D in the league at 28 lmao.

Love that, wish it would happen.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

If we park our Crosby dreaming for a minute.....let's take a look at some other options.

The Leafs fans are talking about 8+ million for Knies....lmao.....and will likely have to do something for Marner in the 13 million range....also LMAO......unless Tavares takes a massive hometown discount from the Leafs....he could be a target for a UFA signing.

This year he is 36G+34A and is slightly over PPG. He averages near PPG annually.

He turns 35 on Sept 20.

I would offer him a 4 year contract at 7.875 million per year. Free asset and a 2C who can still put up some offence.

My 2nd target is Charlie McAvoy. He is going to cost an arm and a leg. But he is a RD on a team that may pull the trigger on a rebuild....I suspect they retool....but this is my fantasy land.

9.5 million for 5 more years. 27 years old.

Trade a significant package for this guy......Beck+Matheson+2 x 2025 1sts

Finally, I am beating around the idea of resigning Dvo. It will largely depend on how he plays in the playoffs...but I have been very impressed with him for the past month or so and I feel like he has landed where he should right now.

Slaf - Suzuki - Caufield
Laine - Tavares - Demidov
Anderson - Dvorak - Gally
Newhook - Evans - Dach
Heinemen/Kapanen

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - McAvoy
Xhekaj - Carrier
Struble

Love McAvoy and he would be a great fit but you're not getting him for anything short of Hage + Fowler + (and a big + at that).

Certainly would love to sign Tavares, just not sure I'd be giving him Suzuki money until he's 39, his skating is already suspect, if he loses half a step it could get dicey very quickly.

I still think Hayton would be a great fit for us, maybe toss them Matheson and a 1st or 2nd since their d core is pretty thin.

 

[HabzSauce]

We need two things to entice Sid to demand a trade to the glorious Montreal Canadiens:

Habs go on a tear this spring to remind him what a real winning team looks like. & Also for media to whine nonstop about how habs are ONE 2C away from being the next dynasty.

That will surely get his attention. Sid is gonna feel it man

 

[CAUFIELD]

The only real weak spot is 2C. I know to find a #1 RD would be ideal, but it’s the toughest position to fill, and we have a lot of talent on defense . Matheson and Hutson bring offense, skills , and speed. Carrier and Ghule bring great defense and mobility. Xhekaj and Struble physicality and seize. + Reinbacher

Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Laine-2C-Demidov
Anderson-Newhook-Dach
Heineman-Evans-Gallagher
Kapanen

Ghule-Hutson
Matheson-Carrier
Xhekaj-Reinbacher
Struble

Monty
Primeau/Dobes

Tavares/Benett/duchene would be free targets

 

[crosbyshow]

You see my nickname...so you can guess that I like Crosby a lot..

But.....


Even with 86 points this season Crosby is really not effective defensively like he use to be...

When he gives a good effort in the offensive zone he has no gaz in the tank to do a good job in the d zone as a center.

This year dudes like Bryan Rust and Rackell helped him à lot defensively as his wingers but even then ...Crosby is -20.

Now...imagine him with Patrick Laine 5 vs 5.......

I mean it would be interesting in transitions but they would be stuck in their zone a lot.

..and I am the biggest Crosby's fan in the world..

Crosby does not driving the play as before. He need some partners with him along the boards where he is still great...and Laine is not good at all along the boards behind the goal line

 

[BozoTheClown]

If you trade for Sidney Crosby, you need to sign Brad Marchand.

Slafkovsky-Suzuki-Caufield
Marchand-Crosby-Demidov
Laine-Newhook-Anderson
Dach-Evans-Gallagher
Heineman/Kapanen

Dach or Newhook could go the other way as part of the Crosby trade.