HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread 92 Waiting on the DRAFT Edition

[Sterling Archer]

I looked all around the league and there's only 4 or 5 real good options for a 2C on my wishlist. The problem is, the Habs will need to pay the moon for it and not even sure the other GM will bite.

My option #1:

Anton Lundell; a great great two-way 2C, just 23 years old, Barkov lite, a stud really, Stanley Cup winner. I would give everything Florida wants for him among the non-untouchables assets.

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My option #2:

Mason McTavish; good offensive instincts, good size

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My option #3:

Ryan McLeod; looks like a late bloomer, a little bit older, but fits perfectly the Habs timeline. Might be the cheapest option knowing how bad Buffalo's GM are with trades lately.

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My option #4:

Barrett Hayton; good all around center, still has untaped potential

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My option #5:

Cole Sillinger; the youngest option here, if not for his injury, would be close to 40 points by now. Looks bad quite defensively though with his -16, so not sure if he's a good fit for Laine.

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What would be my offers (ranked from best value to worst for the other teams):

1. Hage, 1st round pick 2025 and Mailloux
2. Dach, 1st round pick 2025, Mesar/Roy and Mailloux
3. Matheson, 1st round pick 2025, Mailloux
4. Beck, 1st round pick 2025, 2nd round pick 2025, Mesar/Roy, 3rd round pick 2025 and Mailloux
5. Beck, Kapanen, 2nd round pick 2025, 3rd round pick 2025 and Mailloux

Thanks for the work put into the post, but if that’s all that’s available, we’re f***ed. Rather keep Dach and hope he can come back from his injury

 

[Mrb1p]

Crosby is thr 2C. Theres no way the Pens are going to miss on the potential of McKenna and Dupont for legacy. If they do theyre utterly stupid.

 

[HabbyGuy]

And yet Savard, playing with himself and also on the same pairing and managed to get 15 points.

St-Louis' problem with Xhekaj always been the same...his multiple penalties including his useless/staged fights (which he corrected this year).

He fixed that, he'll play. It's not really about the rest of the game.
Playing 4th line won't change the problem, might just make it worst since he's not use to that role.

The numbers don't lie.

Amongst D.
118 PIM - 2nd in the NHL (the 3rd one is at 97 only)
1:42 per game - 2nd in the NHL
38 penalties taken - 2nd int the NHL (The 3rd one has 33)
29 minor penalties - 3rd in the NHL

Only one above him is Zadarov and he's playing 20 minutes a night.

There's no way we should Trade Xhekaj, he gives us something we severely lack and I have a hunch he'll be invaluable in the playoffs. That said, he needs to play smarter and I have no problem with the way Marty is handling him.

He needs to learn.

 

[EXPOS123]

I looked all around the league and there's only 4 or 5 real good options for a 2C on my wishlist. The problem is, the Habs will need to pay the moon for it and not even sure the other GM will bite.

My option #1:

Anton Lundell; a great great two-way 2C, just 23 years old, Barkov lite, a stud really, Stanley Cup winner. I would give everything Florida wants for him among the non-untouchables assets.

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My option #2:

Mason McTavish; good offensive instincts, good size

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My option #3:

Ryan McLeod; looks like a late bloomer, a little bit older, but fits perfectly the Habs timeline. Might be the cheapest option knowing how bad Buffalo's GM are with trades lately.

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My option #4:

Barrett Hayton; good all around center, still has untaped potential

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My option #5:

Cole Sillinger; the youngest option here, if not for his injury, would be close to 40 points by now. Looks bad quite defensively though with his -16, so not sure if he's a good fit for Laine.

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What would be my offers (ranked from best value to worst for the other teams):

1. Hage, 1st round pick 2025 and Mailloux
2. Dach, 1st round pick 2025, Mesar/Roy and Mailloux
3. Matheson, 1st round pick 2025, Mailloux
4. Beck, 1st round pick 2025, 2nd round pick 2025, Mesar/Roy, 3rd round pick 2025 and Mailloux
5. Beck, Kapanen, 2nd round pick 2025, 3rd round pick 2025 and Mailloux

Finding a top center will be very difficult but it is imperative

But prospects and picks will not be enough if you want an established bonafide star and hopefully a young one.

You gotta give quality to get quality

Having said that, I’m sorry, I know people love him and so do I to a certain extent, but I would honestly make Caulfield available.

Tage Thompson for picks and prospects won’t get it done but for Caulfield? Good chance it could


What about Caulfield to Seattle for Beniers and their first round pick potentially being third overall so we can draft a Martone?

What about Caulfield for Leo Carlson?

The point is the possibilities become a lot more open if we made Caulfield available

 

[Treb]

Crosby is thr 2C. Theres no way the Pens are going to miss on the potential of McKenna and Dupont for legacy. If they do theyre utterly stupid.

It's not Pittsburgh's decision.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Crosby is thr 2C. Theres no way the Pens are going to miss on the potential of McKenna and Dupont for legacy. If they do theyre utterly stupid.

dude this is a bad point. Franchises don;t move on from a historic player just to draft someone. You're wrong. Crosby wants to retire a Penguin and most likely will

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Xhekaj, alone, wouldn't land us a 2C, but he could be part pf package for one.

To get a young C bas a 2C, we likely need to give up an NHL player or two.

Personally, I believe that Beniers is being underestimated and all the better if Utah is satisfied by two other C, including Wright for their top-6, making Beniers available for a trade.

When he adds some meat to his 6'2" frame, he will become that much harder to face (currently 175 lbs).

How much would it cost for Beniers?

You realize Beniers is in Seattle and not Utahn right?? Lol team's don't trade from a position of strength just because maybe they have too many.

 

[_vivelequebec_]

12 interesting options for 2C

Via trade

1. Lundell
2. Vilardi
3. Beniers
4. McTavish
5. McLeod/Johnson (probably too expansive)

Via UFA

1. Bennett
2. Tavares
3. Nelson
4. Granlund
5. Donato/Roslovic (probably too expansive)

 

[General Fanager]

Crosby is thr 2C. Theres no way the Pens are going to miss on the potential of McKenna and Dupont for legacy. If they do theyre utterly stupid.

Even if he changes his mind what makes you think he would come here?

 

[Galchenyuk15]

He doesn't have that much value, not sure why you're expecting movement that early.

Too not became the next Nate The Great or Yannick Weber. We know he will never play here, not because he is the worst d we have but because his profil doesn't fit with the rest. A offensive mind d-man with good size, very not good or safe in his zone when you have Hutson, Guhle, Reinbacher, Struble, Xhekaj and some extent Matheson and Carrier. If he was not a RHD he will already be gone last summer.

The better value for the organisation it's the trade value he have because playing the waiting game or hoping he do a man of himself for me it's like making a wish and only hurt his value in the long run. A kind of d-man who produce himself and not make anyone better around him with a lot of question marks in his game. Lots of tools just no freakin toolbox. Really not my kind of d-man ...

I hope he will be include in EVERY trade Kent try this summer. If this guy is here in October, it's will be a fail. It's already one year too late too maximize his value! If some still think he have a Top 4 for upside glad for them, I don't and managing this headcase to hope he play 12 to 15 minutes has a #5 or #6 doesn't justify to keep him and only decrease his value over the time because even in the AHL he got expose and really not the kind of d-man you want has #5 or #6.

This guy can play in the NHL but too be effective is another story and it will not be for us.

 

[vokiel]

Too not became the next Nate The Great or Yannick Weber. We know he will never play here, not because he is the worst d we have but because his profil doesn't fit with the rest. A offensive mind d-man with good size, very not good or safe in his zone when you have Hutson, Guhle, Reinbacher, Struble, Xhekaj and some extent Matheson and Carrier. If he was not a RHD he will already be gone last summer.

The better value for the organisation it's the trade value he have because playing the waiting game or hoping he do a man of himself for me it's like making a wish and only hurt his value in the long run. A kind of d-man who produce himself and not make anyone better around him with a lot of question marks in his game. Lots of tools just no freakin toolbox. Really not my kind of d-man ...

I hope he will be include in EVERY trade Kent try this summer. If this guy is here in October, it's will be a fail. It's already one year too late too maximize his value! If some still think he have a Top 4 for upside glad for them, I don't and managing this headcase to hope he play 12 to 15 minutes has a #5 or #6 doesn't justify to keep him and only decrease his value over the time because even in the AHL he got expose and really not the kind of d-man you want has #5 or #6.

This guy can play in the NHL but too be effective is another story and it will not be for us.

I'm not sure there will be lots of opportunities so that's why I'm saying it might be more worthwhile to wait until demand inflates values at TDL.

That said if the difference between getting a good veteran at 2C is just Mailloux, I think you guys are right, he'll be gone. I just don't believe these trades exist within what he's worth. He'd be a throw-in and whatever we'd have to give up would hurt far more.

 

[salbutera]

Question: John Tavares turns 35 in mid-September, prior to start of 25-26 season, thus is eligible per CBA to a 1-yr 35+ bonus structured contract w only base salary counting vs cap.

Should longer term C options not be viable this summer & Tavares will need to take hometown discount to stay in T-dot….

Offer Tavares 1-yr / $12-$15M AAV deal ($1M base + remaining bonus)?

Edit: Nevermind player has to turn 35 by June 30th per CBA

 

[themilosh]

I'm not sure there will be lots of opportunities so that's why I'm saying it might be more worthwhile to wait until demand inflates values at TDL.

That said if the difference between getting a good veteran at 2C is just Mailloux, I think you guys are right, he'll be gone. I just don't believe these trades exist within what he's worth. He'd be a throw-in and whatever we'd have to give up would hurt far more.

Gotta target a cap strapped (or cheap) team to pull their (slightly overpaid) legit 2C and give them Mailloux (RHD), Primeau (2G) and Beck (3/4C) going back.

 

[DAChampion]

Crosby is thr 2C. Theres no way the Pens are going to miss on the potential of McKenna and Dupont for legacy. If they do theyre utterly stupid.

I think a fair deal for Crosby is a 1st in 2025, Dach, Mailloux, and a conditional first in 2026.

 

[salbutera]

I doubt Newhook will be a 3C either, I think either Kapanen or Beck gets that. I think Newhook will eventually be traded. Unless he breaks out, of course. But otherwise, he doesn't offer enough for someone of his size and physical ability.

Nest season there will be expectations to make playoffs, which means pressure to perform and MSL has already stated “developing players at NHL level is over, it’s about using developed players for winning moving forward”.

I don’t see the 3C role being handed to rookies next season, and Newhook is ideally slotted for 3C role

 

[salbutera]

I think a fair deal for Crosby is a 1st in 2025, Dach, Mailloux, and a conditional first in 2026.

IF Crosby even accepts to be dealt, it will be limited to 1-2 markets and the return will be limited - don’t see the acquiring team giving up 4-assets. OEMs may be lucky to net a 1st + additional NHL ready young grade B asset.

 

[Canadienna]

I wonder if the isles blow it up if we could snag Barzal.

Always felt like he would explode offensively on a team that's not the boring islanders.

 

[bleuetbio]

OMG People here just refuse to admit that Sid the kind gonna be a lifetime Penguin lol, There Crosby talks every 3 pages

 

[vokiel]

Gotta target a cap strapped (or cheap) team to pull their (slightly overpaid) legit 2C and give them Mailloux (RHD), Primeau (2G) and Beck (3/4C) going back.

That's just fantasy hockey imho. You'll get bad contracts like Zibanejad or Stamkos at most.

 

[BergevinBurner]

OMG People here just refuse to admit that Sid the kind gonna be a lifetime Penguin lol, There Crosby talks every 3 pages

I don't disagree that more likely than not he finishes out his career there, but doing so will objectively hurt the organization long term going forward.

Their window is closed, so hanging onto guys like Crosby and Malkin will just ensure that they stay in no man's land with 2 huge drafts coming up with franchise altering prospects.

 

[McGees]

The good thing is, we won't bargain bin for a trade just so we can say we came out as the winner.
We have a clear need and a lot of assets and Hughes is prepared to overpay if it means we get the player we want.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

12 interesting options for 2C

Via trade

1. Lundell
2. Vilardi
3. Beniers
4. McTavish
5. McLeod/Johnson (probably too expansive)

Via UFA

1. Bennett
2. Tavares
3. Nelson
4. Granlund
5. Donato/Roslovic (probably too expansive)

Lundell, Vilardi Beniers , McTavish aren't getting traded. Buffalo gave up a 2nd round pick for him last year and seem to love him. None of those players are getting moved.

Brock Nelson is going to the wild or jets. Most likely Wild.

 

[DAChampion]

I discuss Crosby because right now he's approximately as good as Suzuki, so adding Crosby would be like adding a second Suzuki for one or two years. Great to help develop Demidov.

 

[Mrb1p]

I discuss Crosby because right now he's approximately as good as Suzuki, so adding Crosby would be like adding a second Suzuki for one or two years. Great to help develop Demidov.

Dare I say instany contenders? Especially with Demidov.

 

[vokiel]

I discuss Crosby because right now he's approximately as good as Suzuki, so adding Crosby would be like adding a second Suzuki for one or two years. Great to help develop Demidov.

You discuss Crosby because it's an awesome fantasy hockey subject.. Admit it..

Otherwise it's got as much chance of happening as Jagr coming out of retirement to play in the NHL.