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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread 92 Waiting on the DRAFT Edition

Archijerej said:
He's 34 for God's sake.

I could still wake up without a debilitating hangover at that age.
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I don't drink, and it's for two reasons.

1) I never liked how it made me feel.
2) The debilitating hangovers I got in my mid-twenties.

All this to say that it's not the age. It's the person. Gordie Howe played into his 50s. Savard is losing speed from game to game.
 
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Duclair could be a cheaper bargain bin dive project than PLD last summer this summer. Just looking at his stats over the years his poor play seems to coincide with playing for low possession dump and chase teams, while he is seemingly near a PPG when playing for possession heavy teams. The difference in giveaways is a good indicator of this between the various systems he's played in.

Could be a sneaky good middle-six option. We don't really have bad contracts to eject so maybe just get a good asset in return for taking him so the Isles can overpay another 30 year old.
 
Milhouse40 said:
I honestly don't give one cent of value to what Hartley is saying....there's a reason the guy can't get a job a NA for decade other than on TV.

Put him on the 4th line? For what reason, putting a D on the 4th line , how is that good coaching ?
How is that going to improve Xhekaj as D cause he'll never be forward.

And as for the PK, why would we put Xhekaj more on the PK?
Is the PK better with Xhekaj on it ? Cause we have a pretty good PK.

MSL might not be a career coach, but Xhekaj is not a career NHLer either.....as I said we all love the presence of Xhekaj as the sherif on the ice, but he has to bring something else and stop spending so much time in the penalties box.

Without his fights, he's the thrid most penalized D in the NHL, that's not on MSL, that's on Xhekaj.

And Xhekaj has NO REASON as he don't play 20-25 minutes a night and he's not facing the tough opposition.
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Putting him on the fourth line for a few shifts when we need some physicality in our game. Not that hard to understand, really. The Evans line is useless as Hell.

Also not playing him with Savard would help Jack tremendously. He used to be much better, esp. offensively. But they told him to stay on D and be a good boy and it f***ed him up.
 
Kimota said:
Putting him on the fourth line for a few shifts when we need some physicality in our game. Not that hard to understand, really. The Evans line is useless as Hell.

Also not playing him with Savard would help Jack tremendously. He used to be much better, esp. offensively. But they told him to stay on D and be a good boy and it f***ed him up.
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And yet Savard, playing with himself and also on the same pairing and managed to get 15 points.

St-Louis' problem with Xhekaj always been the same...his multiple penalties including his useless/staged fights (which he corrected this year).

He fixed that, he'll play. It's not really about the rest of the game.
Playing 4th line won't change the problem, might just make it worst since he's not use to that role.

The numbers don't lie.

Amongst D.
118 PIM - 2nd in the NHL (the 3rd one is at 97 only)
1:42 per game - 2nd in the NHL
38 penalties taken - 2nd int the NHL (The 3rd one has 33)
29 minor penalties - 3rd in the NHL

Only one above him is Zadarov and he's playing 20 minutes a night.
 
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vokiel said:
And a LHD to replace Matheson, because I'd rather trade him at the TDL.
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Yeah but i feel like you wait to see how Engstrom progress to do that. Even Struble his stats since january 1st is 7 point in 26 games +4 which is a pace of 22 point +13 which is not bad at all. We have options on the left so if HUtson can play on the right we can just be patient and see how it goes.
 
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Milhouse40 said:
And yet Savard, playing with himself and also on the same pairing and managed to get 15 points.

St-Louis' problem with Xhekaj always been the same...his multiple penalties including his useless/staged fights (which he corrected this year).

He fixed that, he'll play. It's not really about the rest of the game.
Playing 4th line won't change the problem, might just make it worst since he's not use to that role.

The numbers don't lie.

Amongst D.
118 PIM - 2nd in the NHL (the 3rd one is at 97 only)
1:42 per game - 2nd in the NHL
38 penalties taken - 2nd int the NHL (The 3rd one has 33)
29 minor penalties - 3rd in the NHL

Only one above him is Zadarov and he's playing 20 minutes a night.
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Even without those penalties, Jack would not be used to his potential under MSL. He is completely neutered offensively and grit-wise. That's because grit is simply not in MSL's dna as coach. It needs to be systemic all throughout the line-up. We saw those issues against the Blues.
 
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This is what chatgpt suggested:

To Boston:


• Logan Mailloux (RHD with top-4 potential — higher value but tough to give up)


• 2025 3rd-round pick


• Prospect sweetener like Sean Farrell or Jan Mysak





To Montreal:


• Pavel Zacha
 
Gaylord Q Tinkledink said:
Maybe the Habs call the Bruins and ask them about McAvoy
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Yup that'd be my guy. Normally I'd say no chance he'd want to come here, but a young playoff aspiring team with tons of talent on the way and getting to play next to Hutson is enticing. Bruins may hold a weird grudge and not trade him to us, but I don't think any team he'd actually want to go to would offer the same package as us.
 
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If we're going to have to settle for a stop gap 2C next year, then there's one guy I wish we'd have a look at on the free agent market.

29 years old, 6'1'' 200lbs left-handed two-way centerman, very good face-off man, kills penalties, is good for around 35 points when not used on the powerplay (can play bumper on the PP) and won't cost any assets to acquire.
 
Archijerej said:
If we're going to have to settle for a stop gap 2C next year, then there's one guy I wish we'd have a look at on the free agent market.

29 years old, 6'1'' 200lbs left-handed two-way centerman, very good face-off man, kills penalties, is good for around 35 points when not used on the powerplay (can play bumper on the PP) and won't cost any assets to acquire.
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Jake Evans ?
 
Archijerej said:
If we're going to have to settle for a stop gap 2C next year, then there's one guy I wish we'd have a look at on the free agent market.

29 years old, 6'1'' 200lbs left-handed two-way centerman, very good face-off man, kills penalties, is good for around 35 points when not used on the powerplay (can play bumper on the PP) and won't cost any assets to acquire.
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Laboeuf said:
How about David Pastrnak for both first round picks?
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I wish, but Boston will refuse outright.

It would require us to trade Slafkovsky++ if we wanted Pastrnak.

And the Bruins would jack-up the price just to spite us. They'd have zero will to get torched by Pastrnak 4 times a year on the cheap.

There's a reason why we nearly never trade with Boston.

At this point the Islanders (Horvat or Barzal) remain our best hope to try and get a 2C in a trade if we can't get any of Duchene, Tavares, Nelson, or Bennett in UFA.

That or we try and target guys like Jared McCann or Chandler Stephenson from Utah. But McCann isn't good defensively as a center, and I have never been the biggest fan of Stephenson.

However, McCaan has had a "down" season this year by all metrics and is poised to be surpassed by Beniers and Wright soon, so those two facts compounded maybe might make him a a good "buy-low" type of option for us?

At this point I've lost a lot of faith in Laine as a 5-on-5 player given how slow he's looked this year. And I think Laine's become quite a bit of a PP specialist so we shouldn't try and shape a second-line with him as one of the cogs.

The more I think about it and the more I start to believe that McCann could be good for us as a shoot-first C (got 40 goals two years ago) to go alongside Demidov.

But the same is true of Horvat too, and he'd also be WAY more solid defensively than McCann. And Barzal's skillset is undeniable too, with him also being a better match for our core age-wise.

Anyways, no matter how the chips fall it'll be interesting to see.

For the first time in a while we have assets to try and acquire players, but also flexibility in capspace and many options available to us.

Feels good man after the 2021-2022 season, where our lineup sucked on the ice and we had no way to improve because of extremely tight capspace.
 
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LesCactus said:
I have a feeling he might end up staying in Montreal.
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I won't say it's impossible because if he's willing to sign for like 2 years at a much lower cap hit, I imagine Habs might explore that. However, I think that like Armia, we can't look at this year and ignore their last 3 years. I also think the fact Newhook has looked good at center, but not suited as a 2C, he most likely ends up as the 3C.

So you go into next season with a 1C (Suzuki), a 3C (Newhook), and a 4C (Evans). You also have Kapanen and Beck who might start on the wing, but can also step in at C. Then you also have Dach coming back until his next season-ending injury. So he's another option who might start on the wing who can play center. But even with all of that, a 2C is priority.

No room for Dvorak. I think clearing his $4.45M will be used elsewhere. Same goes with Armia's $3.4M. That's $7.85M in cap space. That could end up being more valuable to the Habs' plans than having Dvorak stick around.
 
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