Kimota
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Hartley, the man we need in Montreal.
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Hartley, the man we need in Montreal.
- Jun 24, 2012
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Exactly what some of us have been saying in here without the benefit of Hartley’s vast hockey experience. MSL is always ready to punish Xhekaj with laser-like dispatch but somehow, that no longer applies to some other players making boneheaded plays.
MSL won’t be held to account over it — team is progressing toward a playoff berth — a 3rd pairing D’s playing time is not material right now.
At least Xhekaj has reacted like a pro — has made no retaliatory comments and has shown up at optional practice. This is how he gets back in the lineup soon enough.
Kimota
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I like Bennett but everytime he plays the Habs, he makes these huge brainfart mistakes. Maybe he really does not want to play with us so he make himself look bad. lol But I can just imagine if he was in Montreal how these mistakes would be perceived.
Kimota
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I feel like someone like Xhekaj like many tough guys in the past, they need to feel loved and needed by their coach to shine. Toughness is so removed in MSL's mind that he does not understand how to handle someone like Jack. Even sending him on the fourth line to crash and bang when the Habs are against the tougher opponant(Blues) would be something. Make him being part of the team, make him useful.
...if Jackeye had one-tenth of the rope that guys like Methhead & FatAss have, he'd be a fixture on our 3rd pairing and this wouldn't be an issue...just one of my many complaints about MSL...
So many takes about MSL & X reflect a complete lack of understanding about how high performance teams function...
Hartley was no different. The guys like X that he coached while in Calgary also had short leashes and minimal play time.
If X wants a bigger role, he'll have to earn it by driving impact above and beyond dropping the gloves. I think he can, but it's going to be an uphill battle given the depth of U25 D talent that KH has assembled.
Hartley was no different. The guys like X that he coached while in Calgary also had short leashes and minimal play time.
If X wants a bigger role, he'll have to earn it by driving impact above and beyond dropping the gloves. I think he can, but it's going to be an uphill battle given the depth of U25 D talent that KH has assembled.
cphabs
The 2 stooges….
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We need a 2nd line center and someone to replace Savard once he ages out.
Savard, a cup winning vet that is only 34, is averaging 17min a night for the season (career low) & under 15min/game since February.... And 3min of that is PK time.
To suggest he's getting a long rope is ridiculous
Matheson gives the team positive impact in all phases of the game. His mistakes don't come close to negating how much value he adds to the group. Comparing his "rope" to X's is silly. Obviously the more you provide the more leeway you earn...
TheBuriedHab
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...Savard isn't an NHL defenseman anymore and hasn't been all year...the ONLY thing he has over Jackeye is that he's a righty and he blocks shots cuz his fat arse can't move...
I would trade our d-man Arber Xhekaj for forward Arber Xhekaj. Put him with his brother on the 4th line and enjoy !
That way, if he takes too many minutes for a fight, your D lines aren't affected and if a dman is injured, you still get the option to play him there.
Thank you all for the likes and agreements !
That way, if he takes too many minutes for a fight, your D lines aren't affected and if a dman is injured, you still get the option to play him there.
Thank you all for the likes and agreements !
The someone replacing Savard is probably Carrier. We need a 2C and someone to replace Matheson imho.
Hannibal
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Trading Arber is gonna be a big mistake.
Easier to find a struble replacement than a Xhekaj.
Easier to find a struble replacement than a Xhekaj.
Savard was already replaced by Carrier in term of minutes played. The current minutes Savard is playing (10-14 minutes) can probably go to a young player next season.
Yeah.... No.
Habs PK - 13th in NHL
Savard - Habs Def PK TOI= 2nd (100min more than 3rd dman).
Habs Def PK TOI/G = 2nd (1min/g more than 3rd) & 5th among Dmen league-wide... Every other dman in the top 10 plays 2-6Min more ES/game than him.
I'm not crazy about Savard by any means, but he's quite clearly being used as a PK specialist for the Habsat this point, especially down the stretch where his ES time has been reduced to the bare minimum.
He has over X that he's a very smart, experienced and reliable vet who knows his role & limitations and plays within them. Not unlike Hal Gill near the end, he's painful to watch at ES, but his positioning, size, stick and game sense allow him to be an effective penalty killer.
Habs seem content to ride Guhle/Hutson/Matheson/Carrier at ES, and Strubble is better than X in the 5th spot at this point.
It's not the time of year to be developing players. And for all the talk of MSL not liking "toughness", we've seen Pezz draw in over the considerably more talented Roy the last few games... That narrative is BS.
They're icing the roster they think gives them the best chance to win hockey games. And just beat the cup Winners back to back... With the Panthers going 0/6 on the PP... Matheson - Savard - Evans - Armia leading the PK.
Maybe, just maybe, the coaching staff is squeezing the most they can get out of the players they have.
Mrb1p
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Ideally the two would be fixtures on our bottom pairing for 5+ years, no reasons to pit them against each other.
Milhouse40
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It's not about toughness.
It's not about handling Xhekaj.
We all love the presence of Xhekaj as the ''protector'' but it comes at a price.
He plays 14 minutes a night and he got 29 minors penalties.
The closest to him are Hutson and Matheson at 16-17 penalties but they play over 25 minutes a games
His 29 minors penalties is good for 3rd in the NHL and those above him plays over 20 minutes, not 14 either.
And he is -13, deadlast amongst Habs defenseman.
With 6 points, deadlast for offensive production....Struble already have 12 points...even slow and old Savard has 15 points.
I like Xhekaj just like everybody else but at some points, at least stop taking those penalties.
The Great Weal
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If Carrier is replacing Savard, then we need someone replacing Carrier. That could be Reinbacher but I think it's premature to assume he'll easily be a top 4 dman in the NHL next year.
Hannibal
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Ideally yes, but i don’t think neither are confortable on the rigth side, unfortunately.
I’m all saying is, if we make a choixe between the two, i hope we make the correct choice and keep Xhekaj. Unfortunately, with MSL the p***y, i expect the opposite.
Kimota
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I would trade our d-man Arber Xhekaj for forward Arber Xhekaj. Put him with his brother on the 4th line and enjoy !
That way, if he takes too many minutes for a fight, your D lines aren't affected and if a dman is injured, you still get the option to play him there.
Thank you all for the likes and agreements !
Kimota
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I'm saying he is not playing to his potential cause of how he has been handled. Hartley the other day even said he would give Jack some PK time. Give him so love. Make him useful. Send him outthere to send message to other teams. Put him on the fourth line, etc...
MSL is not a career coach so he doesn't understand shit like this. And it's weird cause he played with Andre Roy.
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Hartley is playing the media game... That's not how he actually coached.
Go check his last HC stint. Guys like X got minimal time/usage.
He also coached himself out of the NHL with how underperforming his stunts in Atlanta & Calgary were... Therrien is also a career coach. I'd take MSL, and the work he's done in this rebuild, over those types every day of the week.
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Big time. Players like him are always in high demand and teams that roster them, don’t tend to let them go. He’s still learning and making up for lost development time in the minors. He will either take a leap forward with more experience next season or warm up the bench if he doesn’t.
He understands this and is humble enough to know he has to work harder and smarter. What makes him particularly vulnerable is taking penalties as a D — he’s not as easily replaceable as a forward. In the box would be.
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