HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread 92 Waiting on the DRAFT Edition

[morhilane]

I don't think it's likely either, but I could see it happening if they extend Bennett simply because other teams might value him more than the Panthers.

Let's say Ekblad walks in free agency and they're disappointed with Jones' performance from now until the end of the season. I could see them entertaining a trade around Lundell for a slight downgrade at 3C+a solid 2nd pair RHD.

That 2nd pair RHD is going to cost more than Lundell to the Panthers...

 

[Scintillating10]

Just one game, but Lundell certainly didn't look like the 2C solution some want to pay a small ransom for... Good player but very vanilla. He'd get eaten alive on here if we gave up major assets to watch him be less impactful than Newhook.

Nah, I would want a playmaker to play with Laine and Demidov. They both scorers

 

[Paradoxe]

Many of you talk about Anton Lundell as a target for the second center, but what about Eetu Luostarinen to replace Joel Armia?

He has a big body, is active 2-way forward, can take faceoffs if needed, he's making 3 million for another 2 seasons.

Should Habs take a chance so we can see a combination of: Luostarinen - Evans - Heineman in 25-26?

 

[Deebs]

Florida hasn't been all that good without him. They're 4-5-0 since he stopped playing. Prior to that they were on a 6 game winning streak.

Jones is proving he isn't a #1 D, and $7m is about right for him. Ekblad is likely to get at least $9m.

Currently they have $19m in cap space for next year, and need to sign 2 forwards, 1D & a backup goalie. The backup goalie usually gets $1m, so that's $18m in cap space.

Mackie Samsokevich has had a really good year and is RFA. Imo, he's an offer sheet candidate so Florida can't lowball him like Edmonton did to Holloway and Broberg. With his year, he's getting at least $1.75m on a one year deal & $2.75m on a 2-3 year deal. We'll saw it off & say he signs for $2.25m.

That leaves $15.75m. Ekblad takes $9m. That leaves only $6.75m for Bennett. If they want to keep him, they probably trade one of Rodrigues or Luostarinen, or both. They both make $3m

But, if they decide to let one of Ekblad or Bennett go, I would try & sign whoever they don't keep.

Guhle - Ekblad would be an excellent shut down pairing.

The reason Florida brought in Jones was so they could move away from Ekblad who has seemingly fallen off a cliff performance wise and that's while he was taking steroids.

I have zero interest bringing him to our club given his contract would look gross very quickly. His skating ability continues to decline and in the current NHL, skating is everything.

Just my take on him.

 

[bcv]

The reason Florida brought in Jones was so they could move away from Ekblad who has seemingly fallen off a cliff performance wise and that's while he was taking steroids.

I have zero interest bringing him to our club given his contract would look gross very quickly. His skating ability continues to decline and in the current NHL, skating is everything.

Just my take on him.

Ekblad is often injured, 29 and is going to get, at least, 8M AAV for 7 years. For all those reasons, I'm out.

 

[LesCactus]

What is Sam Bennett looking to get in FA?

 

[WeThreeKings]

What is Sam Bennett looking to get in FA?

He has instructed his agent to make it work with the Panthers.

 

[LesCactus]

He has instructed his agent to make it work with the Panthers.

Interesting. Do you think Anton Lundell is a realistic option because of that?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Interesting. Do you think Anton Lundell is a realistic option because of that?

I don't think so, they are probably very comfortable having him as depth down the middle. Don't think his contract is overly problematic for them even with Bennett re-signing.

 

[Benstheman]

Are we getting Kapanen and Fowler in the next days to replace Pezz and Dobes?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Are we getting Kapanen and Fowler in the next days to replace Pezz and Dobes?

They might give Kapanen another shot to play games this year.. but Fowler isn't gonna go into the NHL this year.

 

[Benstheman]

They might give Kapanen another shot to play games this year.. but Fowler isn't gonna go into the NHL this year.

I don't know. If he wants to burn a year on his ELC. It might be a negociation point right now.

And considering Dobes performances, and the fact Montambeault probably plays 7-8 of the last 9 games, i don't think it would be a problem at all.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I don't know. If he wants to burn a year on his ELC. It might be a negociation point right now.

And considering Dobes performances, and the fact Montambeault probably plays 7-8 of the last 9 games, i don't think it would be a problem at all.

I can't see Marty giving a start to a rookie goaltender in the thick of a playoff race. The only way they could give Fowler a game, would be a final game of the year with the playoff spot getting locked up.. with that being unclear, I'd expect the ATO to be signed for Fowler and his ELC to kick in next year.

 

[Benstheman]

I can't see Marty giving a start to a rookie goaltender in the thick of a playoff race. The only way they could give Fowler a game, would be a final game of the year with the playoff spot getting locked up.. with that being unclear, I'd expect the ATO to be signed for Fowler and his ELC to kick in next year.

Yeah it's the most probable option.

But would Fowler really be worst than Dobes??

 

[WeThreeKings]

Yeah it's the most probable option.

But would Fowler really be worst than Dobes??

He hasn't played a NHL second, nor an AHL second.. it isn't the time of year to experiment with that. It's a lot different if they are already out of the race, but they are in a spot right now, and they are barely playing the guy who went 5-0 beating top end NHL teams, to get them back in the mix.

Marty was mad enough about playing Farrell in a lost season.

 

[Ozmodiar]

I don't know. If he wants to burn a year on his ELC. It might be a negociation point right now.

And considering Dobes performances, and the fact Montambeault probably plays 7-8 of the last 9 games, i don't think it would be a problem at all.

If he signs his ELC for this season, he doesn’t have to pay to burn the year. It won’t slide.

 

[therocket9]

Florida hasn't been all that good without him. They're 4-5-0 since he stopped playing. Prior to that they were on a 6 game winning streak.

Jones is proving he isn't a #1 D, and $7m is about right for him. Ekblad is likely to get at least $9m.

Currently they have $19m in cap space for next year, and need to sign 2 forwards, 1D & a backup goalie. The backup goalie usually gets $1m, so that's $18m in cap space.

Mackie Samsokevich has had a really good year and is RFA. Imo, he's an offer sheet candidate so Florida can't lowball him like Edmonton did to Holloway and Broberg. With his year, he's getting at least $1.75m on a one year deal & $2.75m on a 2-3 year deal. We'll saw it off & say he signs for $2.25m.

That leaves $15.75m. Ekblad takes $9m. That leaves only $6.75m for Bennett. If they want to keep him, they probably trade one of Rodrigues or Luostarinen, or both. They both make $3m

But, if they decide to let one of Ekblad or Bennett go, I would try & sign whoever they don't keep.

Guhle - Ekblad would be an excellent shut down pairing.

And the Verhaeghe pay raise kicks in next year as well.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

The reason Florida brought in Jones was so they could move away from Ekblad who has seemingly fallen off a cliff performance wise and that's while he was taking steroids.

I have zero interest bringing him to our club given his contract would look gross very quickly. His skating ability continues to decline and in the current NHL, skating is everything.

Just my take on him.

His numbers don't reflect that all. He's basically playing at the same level he's been at the last few years.

He's always been an imperfect player, but no less than someone like Nurse, who's getting $9m.

He's for sure a $9m player right now & likely for the next 3 years. He just turned 29, so 3 years puts him to age 32. The last 4 years that take him to age 36 could be problematic.

But, if you're in win now mode, you just care about the building of the team now and not in 3-4 years. He'll definitely get 7 years x $9m in UFA.

He would need to play with a speedy player, which if we were to sign him would be Guhle.

As for the PEDs thing, I expect the entire NHL is using something. HGH is used to shorten injury recovery. I believe him when he said "he took something to help with an injury" that something was very likely HGH. He would not be alone in using that.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

And the Verhaeghe pay raise kicks in next year as well.

That was factored into the equation already. If they sacrifice some depth, they could keep everyone.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

What about Marchand? Where does he fit with Florida after this year? Is he someone they’re looking to bring back?

 

[Miller Time]

That was factored into the equation already. If they sacrifice some depth, they could keep everyone.

You alluded to it and while I don't know how inclined Gorton/KH are to the offer sheet route, I'd seriously consider OS Samoskevich.

Kid looks like a stud. He's from CT so there's a good chance MSL & KH are very familiar with him.

if Habs don't, hopefully another team does... Like Holloway, he's a good bet to keep improving and the Panthers badly need him on a lower end bridge deal if they want to make the cap work without gutting their depth the next 2 years with Ekblad, Bennett & Bob all needing new deals in that time.

 

[Deebs]

His numbers don't reflect that all. He's basically playing at the same level he's been at the last few years.

He's always been an imperfect player, but no less than someone like Nurse, who's getting $9m.

He's for sure a $9m player right now & likely for the next 3 years. He just turned 29, so 3 years puts him to age 32. The last 4 years that take him to age 36 could be problematic.

But, if you're in win now mode, you just care about the building of the team now and not in 3-4 years. He'll definitely get 7 years x $9m in UFA.

He would need to play with a speedy player, which if we were to sign him would be Guhle.

As for the PEDs thing, I expect the entire NHL is using something. HGH is used to shorten injury recovery. I believe him when he said "he took something to help with an injury" that something was very likely HGH. He would not be alone in using that.

Nurse was about $3M overpaid and the Oilers continue to regret giving him that amount. It's all they've talked about since he signed the deal....but back to Ekblad.

If we're just looking for a steady D man to play alongside one of our top guys (Hutson and Guhle), I'm not sure a player that hasn't played a full season in 7 years, has slowed considerably and will be seeking a long term, high cap hit contact should be the target.

We have 2 and seemingly/hopefully 3 stalwarts on our backend in Hutson, Guhle and Reinbacher. We need steady, readily available players to compliment them and I'm not sure Ekblad fits the bill.

I'm sure many players are using something, but Ekblad got caught. If he gets caught again, then he's gone for a very extended period of time, which hurts the franchise.

Who knows, maybe he is the right fit but I know if it was my team, I don't touch him.

 

[The Great Weal]

Nah, I would want a playmaker to play with Laine and Demidov. They both scorers

I think Demidov will be fairly even in terms of playmaking and goalscoring. The most important quality for this 2C will be having a good all-around game if he's playing with Laine and rookie Demidov.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

What about Marchand? Where does he fit with Florida after this year? Is he someone they’re looking to bring back?

Marchand is actually washed

 

[MarkovsKnee]

You alluded to it and while I don't know how inclined Gorton/KH are to the offer sheet route, I'd seriously consider OS Samoskevich.

Kid looks like a stud. He's from CT so there's a good chance MSL & KH are very familiar with him.

if Habs don't, hopefully another team does... Like Holloway, he's a good bet to keep improving and the Panthers badly need him on a lower end bridge deal if they want to make the cap work without gutting their depth the next 2 years with Ekblad, Bennett & Bob all needing new deals in that time.

Unfortunately, he's yet another right shooting winger. He's really not what we need, but Samoskevich & Mavrik Bourque are definitely candidates for an offer sheet this summer.