HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread 92 Waiting on the DRAFT Edition

Respectfully you have like the worst track record when it comes to speaking in absolutes about other teams players

IIRC you still think the Protas brothers are both no talent hacks
What’s your eval on Hayton? I haven’t seen him play in years.
 
Barrett Hayton and Mason McTavish are my 2 guys.

I would trade Caufield to Anaheim for McTavish. I wonder how a guy like free agent Ryan Donato, first in point and goals while being 5th in ice time for forwards on Chicago, would do on the wing with McTavish and Demidov.

Slafkovsky-Suzuki-Laine
Donato-McTavish-Demidov
Anderson-Newhook-Gallagher
Dach-Evans-Heineman
Kapanen/Roy

You can improve your defensive core by trading Matheson, Beck, Mesar, Engstrom, Mailloux, Reinbacher.
That's easily the worst first line in the entire NHL right there.
 
Respectfully you have like the worst track record when it comes to speaking in absolutes about other teams players

IIRC you still think the Protas brothers are both no talent hacks
They are if they weren't on PEDS. They were nothing until this season. Now I have been in a points only keeper league for 40 years so I usually concentrate on potential point production. The WJC Dach got hurt i had Newhook, McMichael, Zary, Mercer, Tomasino, Zegras, Caufield and Boldy. All good players.
 
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They are if they weren't on PEDS. They were nothing until this season. Now I have been in a points only keeper league for 40 years so I usually concentrate on potential point production. The WJC Dach got hurt i had Newhook, McMichael, Zary, Mercer, Tomasino, Zegras, Caufield and Boldy. All good players.
Ignoring the PEDs accusation (which hey maybe you’re right I haven’t heard anything) that is a good list of players.

I think you’re too harsh on other teams players/prospects though. To the point where every trade proposal for immediate help is a no from you.

Hayton could be a good 3C for us, but he’s not one of my top options. We will need a 2C and a 3C this summer, and unless we extend Dvo we will need to hit the trade market. I’m not counting on Beck/Kapanen to step into crucial roles, that isn’t fair to them or the rest of the team trying to make the playoffs.
 
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He will lilkely go back to being nothing after this fluke season.
He’s improved every year stats wise. Looks like he got caught in the numbers game in Carolina, got picked up by Seattle and they had Gourde, Beniers and Donato for their scoring lines and he got what was left… which wasn’t much. Signs with Boston, plays his way to the top line and starts burying pucks. He put up solid numbers last year too, so I don’t think this is a “fluke” per se, but he does have a lot of chemistry with Pasternak.

I like him as a player, he’s versatile, good size, not afraid to go to the difficult areas or initiate contact, good skater, and has a lethal shot. Could do a lot worse than giving Geekie a look, I don’t know where you’d play him in our top 6 though, unless you’re moving Laine. He’s basically a harder working, better all around, faster but not nearly as talented guy playing a similar role as Laine.

We need more left hand shooters up front though, all the big weapons are righties. More balance is key.
 
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Just one game, but Lundell certainly didn't look like the 2C solution some want to pay a small ransom for... Good player but very vanilla. He'd get eaten alive on here if we gave up major assets to watch him be less impactful than Newhook.
 
Just one game, but Lundell certainly didn't look like the 2C solution some want to pay a small ransom for... Good player but very vanilla. He'd get eaten alive on here if we gave up major assets to watch him be less impactful than Newhook.

Lundell scored 40 points twice in 4 years. Newhook is at 0 in 4.

People may be offering overpayments, but he would be better than Newhook.
 
Lundell scored 40 points twice in 4 years. Newhook is at 0 in 4.

People may be offering overpayments, but he would be better than Newhook.
34 in 55 last year.

Lundell plays on the defending cup champs (& back to back finalists). Quality of roster affects scoring.

yes, Lundell is the better player (or more productive... .53ppg vs .43ppg) But unless he had a major breakthrough, the same people pissed about Newhook would be sharpening their pitchforks in no time.
 
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34 in 55 last year.

Lundell plays on the defending cup champs (& back to back finalists). Quality of roster affects scoring.

yes, Lundell is the better player (or more productive... .53ppg vs .43ppg) But unless he had a major breakthrough, the same people pissed about Newhook would be sharpening their pitchforks in no time.
I'd say yes to that if Lundell wasn't a good defensive C, something Newhook isn't.

Lundell will earn his TOI on a second line because of his defensive play and the ability have the coaching staff trust him with that TOI.

Beyond that, his playmaking ability will go well with Demidov and Laine, which could potentially lead to a major breakthrough.
 
I'd say yes to that if Lundell wasn't a good defensive C, something Newhook isn't.

Lundell will earn his TOI on a second line because of his defensive play and the ability have the coaching staff trust him with that TOI.

Beyond that, his playmaking ability will go well with Demidov and Laine, which could potentially lead to a major breakthrough.
I think you misunderstood my comment.
 
34 in 55 last year.

Lundell plays on the defending cup champs (& back to back finalists). Quality of roster affects scoring.

yes, Lundell is the better player (or more productive... .53ppg vs .43ppg) But unless he had a major breakthrough, the same people pissed about Newhook would be sharpening their pitchforks in no time.

Possibly, but you can also argue than Lundell is being buried in Florida while Newhook pretty much had the field open for both wings and C in the top6 and failed to take it.
 
Other than being injured all the time id consider signing Ekblad.

I think hed be a very good veteran presence on the back end. Trade Matheson.

Hutson - Ekblad
Guhle - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Carrier
Struble
 
Possibly, but you can also argue than Lundell is being buried in Florida while Newhook pretty much had the field open for both wings and C in the top6 and failed to take it.
Not really.. Lundell has had more ice time and PP time annually. One season Newhook had 16+ min of ice time, he pretty much matched Lundell's production.
 
Just for the fun of it:

Gary Bettman at the draft:

We have a major trade to announce:

Montreal;

Juraj Slafkovsky
Kaiden Guhle
Kirby Dach
Calgary first pick ( 15th..)
Mtl first pick ( 18th )


Vs

Anaheim

Leo Carlsson
Tristan Luneau
Trevor Zegras
Anheim first pick ( 8th overall )



Carlsson is the real deal and I am quite confident that he will be a lot better than Slaf down the road.

Luneau has a hell.of a season in the Ahl

8th overall coulb be Desnoyers or Frondell.

The prime target here is Carlsson and I would give a lot to get him.

In fact the only players that I would not give for him one on one are Demidov, Hutson...and I don't know about Suzuki..
 
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Anton Lundell is 6'1 and 23 years old, has a 5x5 contract starting next season, mostly plays with 3rd liners, gets zero PP time but still averages 40-50 points a season, and plays the top PK unit for the reigning cup champs. Why the f*** would Florida even entertain trading him?
I don't think it's likely either, but I could see it happening if they extend Bennett simply because other teams might value him more than the Panthers.

Let's say Ekblad walks in free agency and they're disappointed with Jones' performance from now until the end of the season. I could see them entertaining a trade around Lundell for a slight downgrade at 3C+a solid 2nd pair RHD.
 
Other than being injured all the time id consider signing Ekblad.

I think hed be a very good veteran presence on the back end. Trade Matheson.

Hutson - Ekblad
Guhle - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Carrier
Struble

Florida hasn't been all that good without him. They're 4-5-0 since he stopped playing. Prior to that they were on a 6 game winning streak.

Jones is proving he isn't a #1 D, and $7m is about right for him. Ekblad is likely to get at least $9m.

Currently they have $19m in cap space for next year, and need to sign 2 forwards, 1D & a backup goalie. The backup goalie usually gets $1m, so that's $18m in cap space.

Mackie Samsokevich has had a really good year and is RFA. Imo, he's an offer sheet candidate so Florida can't lowball him like Edmonton did to Holloway and Broberg. With his year, he's getting at least $1.75m on a one year deal & $2.75m on a 2-3 year deal. We'll saw it off & say he signs for $2.25m.

That leaves $15.75m. Ekblad takes $9m. That leaves only $6.75m for Bennett. If they want to keep him, they probably trade one of Rodrigues or Luostarinen, or both. They both make $3m

But, if they decide to let one of Ekblad or Bennett go, I would try & sign whoever they don't keep.

Guhle - Ekblad would be an excellent shut down pairing.
 
Florida hasn't been all that good without him. They're 4-5-0 since he stopped playing. Prior to that they were on a 6 game winning streak.

Jones is proving he isn't a #1 D, and $7m is about right for him. Ekblad is likely to get at least $9m.

Currently they have $19m in cap space for next year, and need to sign 2 forwards, 1D & a backup goalie. The backup goalie usually gets $1m, so that's $18m in cap space.

Mackie Samsokevich has had a really good year and is RFA. Imo, he's an offer sheet candidate so Florida can't lowball him like Edmonton did to Holloway and Broberg. With his year, he's getting at least $1.75m on a one year deal & $2.75m on a 2-3 year deal. We'll saw it off & say he signs for $2.25m.

That leaves $15.75m. Ekblad takes $9m. That leaves only $6.75m for Bennett. If they want to keep him, they probably trade one of Rodrigues or Luostarinen, or both. They both make $3m

But, if they decide to let one of Ekblad or Bennett go, I would try & sign whoever they don't keep.

Guhle - Ekblad would be an excellent shut down pairing.
Great analysis.

Can you figure out a way wherewe get Ekblad AND Bennett? We'd be cup contenders for sure. lol
 
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