DAChampion
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But why are NBA players not afraid of the show? It doesn't seem like the best players in the NBA always go to the quietest markets like in the NHL.
HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread 92 Waiting on the DRAFT Edition
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But why are NBA players not afraid of the show? It doesn't seem like the best players in the NBA always go to the quietest markets like in the NHL.
I think part of it is because the amount of $$$ they can make from endorsements playing for the Lakers/Celtics/Knicks probably dwarfs whatever they would lose in tax.
And I think the second reason, basketball players are just wired differently. For reasons, they’re just not afraid of the spotlight at all, if anything they prefer it.
American culture … athletes grow up comfortable seeking the limelight, very different from hockey culture for Cdn kids - look at the most significant UFAs Habs have been successful attracting… almost all are American (Gionta, Cole, Petry)
Subban tried to be brash w bravado akin to an everyday American pro athlete in NBA, NFL or MLB and was not looked at kindly by the system ..
Saundies
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Yep.
Big markets = pressure to young, upper middle-class white kids. Montreal media, while not great, has nothing on LA media with global superstars like Lebron.
NY is a big market but you're in the centre of everything/take a backseat to many of the other teams. Hockey rules all in Canada and is often the only show in town for a lot of cities.
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BergevinBurner
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Same here, I'd much rather throw a boat load of money at a quality center or RHD.
We'd probably have to pay an astronomical amount for him to consider Montreal, I don't even think 14x7 gets it done. Not to mention the guy absolutely disappears when the going gets tough. He's played a combined total of 16 game 5, 6 and 7s in the playoffs over the years. Across those 16 games he has 0 goals and 5 assists...
I'd much rather use 7 million to sign an experienced 2C and another 7 million to sign a minute eating RHD that's going to be blocking shots in those crucial games.
He showed up at the 4 Nations. Have to see what he does in the playoffs this year. If he disappears again his value will drop and the Habs should still stay away.
BergevinBurner
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He only played in 2 physical games in the 4 Nations though. In the playoffs he has great numbers through games 1-4, but as the physicality wears on him his game deteriorates quickly.
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Dach gave us a glimpse of his potential but remember Drouin with Tampa? He was disgusting in that playoff run with them.
We never saw that again. He had that one game vs the Jets where he had 4 points at home - that was the most dominant I ever seen him play for us. Too bad it was only just one game lol
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Yeah misread 6years still a great all around player
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I'm expecting a monster offseason by Hughes based on his comments about wanting to win with Suzuki.
I also think that Matthew Barzal is the one K.H/J.G. should try to go after at this year's draft.
He would fit that 2nd line like a glove in the middle of Laine and Demidov.
2025 1st round pick (Calgary), Logan Mailloux and Owen Beck might do the trick.
And yes, the Habs will need to sell their kidney and arms to afford a centerman... they are that expensive. I'm not even sure that offer is enough to get Barzal...
Why again will Uncle Lou be entertaining the idea of trading Horvat or Barzal when he’s made it clear they will “be adding this summer” not rebuilding “which takes 10years to recover from”?
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Will Jordan Kyrou be on the market in the off season?
Back on Feb. 25th:
“On Feb. 8, Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman reported the Blues were willing to talk about their players with other clubs. Two weeks later, his colleague Nick Kypreos listed Brayden Schenn, Pavel Buchnevich and Jordan Kyrou as trade candidates.”
Blues were/ are apparently retooling, so why dispose of the contract of a 26-year old — is it the no trade clause kicking in on July 1st?
“Kyrou is in the second year of his eight-year contract with an average annual value of $8.13 million. He has a no-trade clause that begins on July 1.”
Do the Habs have what it takes and how far would they go?
“With the Blues retooling their roster, they could seek a first-round pick and a top prospect or a good young affordable forward.”
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ts-blues-forward-jordan-kyrou-amid-nhl-rumors
Back on Feb. 25th:
“On Feb. 8, Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman reported the Blues were willing to talk about their players with other clubs. Two weeks later, his colleague Nick Kypreos listed Brayden Schenn, Pavel Buchnevich and Jordan Kyrou as trade candidates.”
Blues were/ are apparently retooling, so why dispose of the contract of a 26-year old — is it the no trade clause kicking in on July 1st?
“Kyrou is in the second year of his eight-year contract with an average annual value of $8.13 million. He has a no-trade clause that begins on July 1.”
Do the Habs have what it takes and how far would they go?
“With the Blues retooling their roster, they could seek a first-round pick and a top prospect or a good young affordable forward.”
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ts-blues-forward-jordan-kyrou-amid-nhl-rumors
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Not a centre and the Islanders aren't rebuilding, so it would need to be a lateral move, or hope the Islanders like someone else more than Barzal, but that team doesn't want Barzal in return, so there's a 3 team trade.
Wouldn't really be that interested in him. Smaller winger, not really something the Habs could be looking at.
Maybe they open up some winger spots, but it would be another "smaller" winger if good, but not high end skill.
I guess it could be a possibility before free agency if the Habs get notice that the top free agents aren't going to sign here, then go for that so at least you can say you improved the team.
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I would have kept the picks. I never liked Dach going back to his draft year. He couldn't score. An average scorer in the W odds slim going to be top 6 player in NHL. WHL not really strong league, average or so. For sure I wouldn't spend a first on him.
Retooling means they'll want roster players and what we have in that department is either nada, or folks we don't want to trade.
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But Kyrou is 6’1, almost 200 lbs.
When you say he’s small, do you mean he plays small, he’s too soft?
Also, you call him a winger but he also plays centre — is he that bad of a C?
Just saw that he shoots R and we’d need a lefty C, so that might be something that makes him less appealing.
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If Demidov shocks the hockey world and re-signs with SKA, I would then give Marner whatever he wants.
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Honestly, the perfect guy to get would be Crosby. If Dubas wasn't so soft he'd burn it all down and retool on the fly, but he doesn't want to be the bad guy that's known for trading those guys away.
I'm really looking forward to this summer. We're in the market and ready to play. I think Kent's comments about not being drunken sailors makes a lot of sense. We're not going to sign a Chandler Stephenson to a 7 year deal for example. But I think he'll use our assets wisely to get us what we need.
I'm really looking forward to this summer. We're in the market and ready to play. I think Kent's comments about not being drunken sailors makes a lot of sense. We're not going to sign a Chandler Stephenson to a 7 year deal for example. But I think he'll use our assets wisely to get us what we need.
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What if it becomes a sign or draft situation for Demidov and, if he doesn't sign with SKA, he gets drafted into the military?
Saundies
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Defect like Mogilny.
In all seriousness, he has a NA agent which means that info is not closed off to anyone. It would be Milstein handling anything like that and any negotiations/threats of those nature would be passed along to the Habs. I'm confident we'd find a way to get him out.
Adam Michaels
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Kyrou's NHL profile lists him at 6'1" and 196 lbs. That's not small. Furthermore, here are Kyrou's stats this year and his 4 previous seasons:
2020-21 (his first full season in the NHL): 14 goals and 25 pts in 55 GP (pace of 21 goals and 51 pts)
2021-22: 27 goals and 75 pts in 74 GP
2022-23: 37 goals and 73 pts in 79 GP
2023-24: 31 goals and 67 pts in 82 GP
This year, he has 27 goals and 56 pts in 68 GP (pace of 33 goals and 68 pts)
Habs could use a "not high end skill" player like that in their Top-6.
A Top-6 of Cole - Nick - Slaf / Kyrou - legit 2C - Demidov.... this could really transform the team.
