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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread 92 Waiting on the DRAFT Edition

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Scriptor said:
Say what you want, but the also late-blooming, minute-munching Mike Matheson will age better than Petry did and can play the role that good Petry did on a second pairing, only open the left side. We've also seen that Matheson-Carrier makes a solid defensive pairing, as it di with Guhle-Carrier.

I'm not against the idea of trading Guhle plus a first round pick for a RHD that can complement Hutson on a first pairing. Is such a RHD available for a combination of Guhle and a first round pick (Calgary's in 2025)?

Re-signing Matheson for four more years after next year, as a 2nd pairing LHD, will cost less, IMO, than Guhle and Matheson at ages 32, 33, 34 and 35 will be a contributing factor to the team's
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What????? They have been a hot mess in the majority of the game they played together. Carrier play have been on downhill since paired with Matheson.
 
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Pompeius Magnus said:
If not him, it needs to be a similar player.
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Lundell or Karlsson would be perfect, though one would be a long term option while the other, a stop-gap. I'm not sure who's available though. My guess is its priority number 1 for management. It was actually priority one when they came in. They brought in Dach, Newhook and Monahan. It was looking like Dach would run with it but our amazing karma made it so one of our former busts destroyed his knee.
 
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At the point where the Habs are, I'm extremy hiffy at trading our best prospects. Picks, I don't mind though. I know many have unilaterally decided for themselves that it's time to go all out for a secondary piece, in the case of a 2C, but personally, I would much rather add a player without giving up any and that means FA. So unless you're looking to acquire a 20-something with the potential to be a top 45 C in the league, at the draft, doing so for anything less would be a bad choice. In spite of where we are, adding to our asset base is still a necessity and FA bypasses the need to use important ammo. Ammo which would be put to better use for the future, whether for trade, or to eventually add to the roster.

Seeing how Hughes didn't give in to overpriced options, was reassuring. Hoes mad, but it's ultimately the right decision as Hughes keeps his eyes the ball, and that ball is our asset base. Some people focus on filling up this or that position/need, but I'm personally more concerned in maintaining and increasing our asset base, and trading our biggest pieces to fill a secondary hole is a step in the opposite direction. Nabbing someone from FA would be a lot more ideal.
 
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HomaridII said:
I have a feeling we go the route of a trade for center with term in them mid 20s, but if we go the free agent route there are several good stop gap options as of now like ..

John tavares
Matt Duchesne
Brock Nelson

Sam Bennett obviously is there too. But I would bet we go the trade route for a name that we haven't heard of yet.

I should say that the hockey writers 3 days ago said the idea of Sam Bennett joining the habs has been gaining some traction. They estimate his potential next contract at 7 years and 8 mill per year.
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No PJ boy
 
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BaseballCoach said:
Thompson is 10th in his draft year for career points. With defencemen Macavoy and Sergachev just behind him, I would put Tage 12th in value.

If we trade for him this summer, we will have him for 5 years to age 32 and at an AAV of $7.143M.

The three first rounders (5th, 21st and say 16th overall) whom you want to trade all come with 7 years of team control, the first 3 of which will be under $1.0M AAV.

I'd rather pay $8M or $9M for a free agent that costs no assets, and keep the three cost-controlled first rounders.
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Come on man that kind of analysis is way too advanced for this insane thread. We should be offering the equivalent of 4-5 first rounders for someone like this, just because.

Why do you think HuGo have been meticulously cultivating this asset base? To completely blow it all on one dumb trade, obviously.

Every time I come in here it's more insane than the last time. To think it's adults in here and not kids is wild. There is no precedence for those kind of assets to move for anyone in the modern era, it's actually preposterous.
 
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HabbyGuy said:
I know many don't like this idea, and to be fair I've been one of them, just have a feeling this very well might be what they do. Marty may be the perfect coach for him.

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If he's not expensive, could be a good project for msl.

Anaheim known for looking for size. Mailloux and the Pens 2nd may get it done.

Could be interesting to try Laine - Zegras - Demidov.
 
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26Mats said:
If he's not expensive, could be a good project for msl.

Anaheim known for looking for size. Mailloux and the Pens 2nd may get it done.

Could be interesting to try Laine - Zegras - Demidov.
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At that price it would be a no brainer imo. Not sure that get's it done. Maybe Calgary's 1st and Mailloux would be more palatable for the Ducks?

I do like the skill level of that line. I think Marty and Demidov could bring out the best in him. He's struggled enough that he could be cost effective and is the ideal age for our group. I can totally see HUGO seeing this as a worthwhile venture.

He has his warts but that's exactly the reason he'd be available. The skill is undeniable. Perhaps the change would do wonders for him. Mailloux and our later 1st shouldn't hurt us much going forward. It's not like 2C's are growing on trees, sometimes you gotta take a swing, even if the player isn't perfect.

I never wanted Zegras when all the rumours were floating about in the past, but looking at how barren things are out there for legit 2C's going into the offseason, and seeing how destructive it's been to our team without one, I find myself atleast warming to the idea.
 
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Zegras hasn't been a center in the NHL at all, he's not moving our needle, unless we trade someone else for an actual 2C. More importantly, style wise I just don't see a fit, unless he finds his mojo from 3 years ago.
 
The Great Weal said:
Yeah he's someone I suggested. To me, something around Newhook for Karlsson would make a lot of sense. Vegas still needs NHL forwards. Only issue is that he's got a 10 team NTC with and we're likely on it.
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If they are moving Karlsson it's because they already have a better player lined up e.g. Marner.
You wouldn't have to give them Newhook at all. They would probably go for TDL capital (picks) and a B prospect. Hughes has to start moving some of the draft capital he's accumulated and teams like Vegas are the perfect targets.
 
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