HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread 92 Waiting on the DRAFT Edition

[vokiel]

A 1st line winger is probably equivalent in value to a 2nd line centre. It’s not far off.

The point is it’s preposterous to think players are rarely traded for picks and prospects, which is what you’re claiming.

It's not what I'm claiming? What I'm saying you're not getting a 2C for picks and prospects before next season starts.

Clear?

 

[le_sean]

It's not what I'm claiming? What I'm saying you're not getting a 2C for picks and prospects before next season starts.

Clear?

And you’re basing it off the fact it’s never happened in NHL history?

Like it’s such a ridiculous thing to claim, that it’s for sure not happening.

 

[vokiel]

And you’re basing it off the fact it’s never happened in NHL history?

Like it’s such a ridiculous thing to claim, that it’s for sure not happening.

No that no one in the league at the moment is looking to trade a 2nd C... Unless you have a crystal ball that states otherwise, I'll believe it when I see it.

Edit: the only one we're aware of is Cozens and apparently the ask was Slafkovsky or Caufield. So you understand the reasoning?

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Habs have their forwards getting a lot of hits, but how many can you remember being solid hits ?

Physicality and forward toughness still needs to be addressed

 

[therocket9]

2C is also a glaring hole for like half of the league. We’re not the only one, if one good center somehow becomes available, it will get very competitive. All it takes is one team in the league to be willing to include their top prospect or a good young player to beat us unless we pay up ourselves.



According to online sources, Kadri has 4 years left unless I’m bad at math (I am).

25-26
26-27
27-28
28-29

Either way, I’m really down on Dach but I’m not trading him for a 35 yo Kadri in October with 4 years left at 7M. I’d rather give Dach one last chance or use his contract to help match salary in a big trade. He only has 1 year left. Best case scenario he can hold up for the year. Worse case scenario he leads us to McKenna. Win-win

Just checked puckpedia and it is 4 more years left......Granlund is the most realistic veteran center just because he is a ufa.

 

[General Fanager]

Agreed to disagree, giving up a mid/late 1st for 35 yo Kadri is too much in my opinion, regardless of the draft. Flames pick, if it ends up in teens like it’s trending, could land us one of Martin/O’Brien/Cootes/Carbonneau/Hensler/Spence/Lakovic/Ryabkin/Fiddler/Kindel/Potter.

And you’re comparing apples to oranges. You were suggesting giving up a mid/late 1st for Kadri, I was replying to a comment debating the idea of trading Slaf for a comparable center to Suzuki. I’m not sure what one has to do with the other.

Of course I would also much rather give up Calgary’s pick than Slaf, but we’re also talking about vastly different returns in both scenario.

My way they don't have to give up Slaf. They give up a no so great magic bean for a good 2c. His age means nothing. In fact it might be helpful.

your way they could trade Slaf for a 2c and we can all be back here next year combining they don't have a winger with size to play in the top 6.

Also seeing CC-Suzuki-Slaf the past 10 games....none of them are available. Simple as that.

 

[red devil]

Panthers and Bennett resume contract talks per Friedman

 

[Habs7631]

Maybe there could be some retention or offset? Kadri has been durable, playing 82 games in each of the prior 2 seasons and has played 65 games so far. This season. Can always be bought out in his last year. Buys time to develop the next center.

I agree Kadri is a good player. I wouldn’t mind him as a stop gap 2C. Even better if it comes with retention! I just disagree with the proposal to acquire him for Calgary’s 1st, especially if that pick ends up in the 11-18 range, which is definitely looking possible at this point. Retention or not, 35 yo Kadri is not worth a pick in the teens in my opinion. If we were talking about 2016 Kadri, sure maybe.

But in any case, I agree with those who says that we’re not getting a good NHL proven center that fits the age group for picks and prospects. If it’s gonna be a future package, it’s either gonna have to be a monster offer (both 1st + Hage or/and Beck) or we’re gonna have to include actual roster player that will hurt (Slaf, Guhle).

 

[Runner77]

I agree Kadri is a good player. I wouldn’t mind him as a stop gap 2C. Even better if it comes with retention! I just disagree with the proposal to acquire him for Calgary’s 1st, especially if that pick ends up in the 11-18 range, which is definitely looking possible at this point. Retention or not, 35 yo Kadri is not worth a pick in the teens in my opinion. If we were talking about 2016 Kadri, sure maybe.

But in any case, I agree with those who says that we’re not getting a good NHL proven center that fits the age group for picks and prospects. If it’s gonna be a future package, it’s either gonna have to be a monster offer (both 1st + Hage or/and Beck) or we’re gonna have to include actual roster player that will hurt (Slaf, Guhle).

Hage should be off the table. He’s that prospect that can become a 2C, whereas Beck has more of a 3rd line C profile. I like Beck also but at least someone like Kapanen might be a good alternative if Beck has to be included in a deal.

 

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[Archijerej]

Hage should be off the table.

I don't understand this. We won't trade Hage for a 2C, because he might become one at some point in the future?

Aside from Suzuki, there isn't a Habs forward, or forward prospect that I wouldn't trade if the right centerman becomes available.