HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #92: Waiting on the Draft edition

[DAChampion]

I am not questioning injuries at all and I think he can still be valuable 3W, but we paid trade value for top6 C. Specifically, I am dissapointed by his inability to improve aspects of his game that would make him a better center.
Faceoff- how come he could not work on his blatant weakness. You can be injured and still work on your faceoffs.
Defensive play- they said he spent last year in coaching meetings and video room, but his defense was pathetic whole year.

Dach's body is getting less athletic, he's spending a lot of time in rehab, and not playing. That's why he's not improving.

You can't improve defensive play by watching videos.

 

[sampollock]

after all the hype and guess work
the 2C that (IF) KH gets is a mystery

 

[Sterling Archer]

There's really nothing to trade. Think about it, Savard, Dvo and Armia walk this summer and Pezz might get extended. I doubt anyone will line up for the services of Gallagher and Anderson. Matheson will be extended or traded next year towards the deadline, along with Laine. Let's be honest here, I wouldn't extend the latter, he seems so disinterested on the ice. Reminds me of Kovalev. All the talent in the world but no heart.

Anderson's contract suddenly becomes manageable with a caphit reaching 95 mil. Put him on the 3rd line and keep him there. Gally goes on LTIR, I mean he's pretty much done. Price's contract becomes enticing for a team to reach the capfloor. The Habs might get a reclamation project à la Dach. Apart from the Gally contract, the BargainBin mess has been sorted out. Suz, Cauf, Slaf, Guhle, the future core, are signed long term. Demidov and Hutson fit perfectly in the mold. I would throw the towel on Dach and keep Newhook on the 3rd line. Beck will be there as a bottom six.

I suspect HuGo will be extremely active in free agency. Lots of RFAs will not be qualified, amongst others Primeau and Harvey Pinard.

I would have traded Dvo, Armia and Savard to get more picks and reinforce the bottom six, but HuGo fell sort this time. This was bad asset management.

Here's what I think they realistically have to trade:
Dach
Newhook
Matheson
Laine
Anderson
Mailleux
Roy
Kapanen or
Beck
Two 1sts
Two 2nds
Three 3rds
Approx. $20M in cap space

Honestly, the Habs should have enough in assets to get just about any player they want to. Have top 3 deepest farms, huge amount of picks, solid roster platers and plenty of cap. I think Hughes has more than enough ammo to do what he wants to do, this year and next.

 

[vokiel]

after all the hype and guess work
the 2C that (IF) KH gets is a mystery

It isn't it's Newhook

 

[salbutera]

Id take Horvat for Mailloux and Dach yo

Uncle Lou won’t he’s going to load up this summer & push for playoffs next year

 

[DAChampion]

Here's what I think they realistically have to trade:
Dach
Newhook
Matheson
Laine
Anderson
Mailleux
Roy
Kapanen or
Beck
Two 1sts
Two 2nds
Three 3rds
Approx. $20M in cap space

Honestly, the Habs should enough in assets to get just about any player they want to. Have top 3 deepest farms, huge amount of picks, solid roster platers and plenty of cap. I think Hughes has more than enough ammo to do what he wants to do, this year and next.

That's way better than Ryder, Halak, and a 2nd.

And you didn't include any 2026 picks or any C prospects like Koivu or Rohrer.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Very possible some teams disappoint in the playoffs and new players become available but Hughes needs to adress our need for a #2 center this offseason no excuses

And maybe even look at some young RDs that might be available like Nemec and Clarke

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Very possible some teams disappoint in the playoffs and new players become available but Hughes needs to adress our need for a #2 center this offseason no excuses

And maybe even look at some young RDs that might be available like Nemec and Clarke

We have the assets , there's really no excuses , the team showed enough after the putrid start to deserve help

 

[WeThreeKings]

We have the assets , there's really no excuses , the team showed enough after the putrid start to deserve help

They were bottom in the league, had a hot streak, then went ice cold before the 4 nations, then won games but not in convincing fashion against weak teams..

They have not been consistent enough to deserve help, especially at the prices at the deadline this year.

I also didn't see a single 2C, left shot centre, that was traded this deadline that we absolutely had to be in on.

 

[LesCactus]

I think Armia is the only pending FA that will stay, I would’ve taken the picks for Dvorak & Savard in all honesty. Hate the idea of losing players for nothing.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

They were bottom in the league, had a hot streak, then went ice cold before the 4 nations, then won games but not in convincing fashion against weak teams..

They have not been consistent enough to deserve help, especially at the prices at the deadline this year.

I also didn't see a single 2C, left shot centre, that was traded this deadline that we absolutely had to be in on.

No they didn't deserve help at the deadline I'm saying they do in this offseason

 

[WeThreeKings]

No they didn't deserve help at the deadline I'm saying they do in this offseason

Oh yes, they do.

 

[le_sean]

They were bottom in the league, had a hot streak, then went ice cold before the 4 nations, then won games but not in convincing fashion against weak teams..

They have not been consistent enough to deserve help, especially at the prices at the deadline this year.

I also didn't see a single 2C, left shot centre, that was traded this deadline that we absolutely had to be in on.

Nothing wrong with the assets given up for Cody Glass or Mark Jankowski. Just a bit of depth so you don’t affect Laval in their run.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Nothing wrong with the assets given up for Cody Glass or Mark Jankowski. Just a bit of depth so you don’t affect Laval in their run.

I am surprised they didn't do anything like that. Kunin was another one that went dirt cheap.

But if they wanted to just give this group as is constructed the chance to run, that seems like the choice they made.

 

[sampollock]

Oh yes, they do.

they did not need help at the deadline
the draft is the time to make the move
kept the gang together for the room, showed they are so weak

 

[Rapala]

I wonder if we can take advantage of the disappointment that will surely rock some franchises as a number of good to very good teams will go out early this post season. Disillusionment always sparks a call for change and that is when GM's inevitably make dumb decisions on top of the ones they made at TDL.

 

[Scriptor]

I wonder if we can take advantage of the disappointment that will surely rock some franchises as a number of good to very good teams will go out early this post season. Disillusionment always sparks a call for change and that is when GM's inevitably make dumb decisions on top of the ones they made at TDL.

A postseason push that falls way short (first round exit) after spending to shore up the roster tends to motivate bigger changes in the offseason and there are indubitably some opportunities to seize upon.

I don't know if Hughes spends futures in this offseason to shore up at least one of the holes in the lineup, or if it will be next offseason after a little more data on the prospect pool, both playing at the NHL level and starting to play at the professional level.

Pretty sure that supplying a 2C for Demidov is the better thing to do, but seeing how Demidov can carry his line without one could also be telling data.

 

[Knuckles30]

I wonder if we can take advantage of the disappointment that will surely rock some franchises as a number of good to very good teams will go out early this post season. Disillusionment always sparks a call for change and that is when GM's inevitably make dumb decisions on top of the ones they made at TDL.

Even then, to get those teams to move off a #2 C requires Mtl to have what those teams perceive as needing to get over the hump. They're usually not looking for futures, which is what we have more of.

But for arguments sake, I contending team willing to deal a C would generally be looking for either a) a reliable scoring winger b) a puck moving D, or c) a shut down D.

The only really proven scoring winger we have is Caufield, and if you deal him you just move the hole. Puck moving D would be Matheson. Shutdown D would be Guhle. So MAYBE Guhle+ gets you someone like Nugent-Hopkins if Edmonton gets eliminated early and needs a shakeup.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Let’s see how Mitch ‘We Are Gods’ Marner performs in this years playoffs. A 4 game tourney doesn’t erase 8 years of soft perimeter playoff play for me.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Let’s see how Mitch ‘We Are Gods’ Marner performs in this years playoffs. A 4 game tourney doesn’t erase 8 years of soft perimeter playoff play for me.

No, but I'd honestly still take him on the team.

He struggles to put up points, which f***ing sucks, but he's still a very useful pker and a very nice two-way player.

Just gotta hope he doesn't f***ing bomb it from his own end over the glass at the far end to give the team a 5 on 3 at a very critical time.

I say very, because playoffs are always critical.


But on a random, let's rile people up before supper time.

KK to be the 3rd line centre for the Habs?

 

[salbutera]

I think Armia is the only pending FA that will stay, I would’ve taken the picks for Dvorak & Savard in all honesty. Hate the idea of losing players for nothing.

Savard will also be resigned as 7th D and help mentor Redenbacher IMO

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

they did not need help at the deadline
the draft is the time to make the move
kept the gang together for the room, showed they are so weak

True. If they fade and aren't close to the playoffs then the important players will know that changes are needed. They could have added a forward and rotated in the Dvorak's, Anderson;s. Armia.s etc or added a d and not played Savard every game. But that is about it unless they somehow found a 2c.

 

[sampollock]

Fat tony said day before dead line, "if they dont' get a 2C, they miss the playoffs"

we see if he is right

 

[Egresch]

And maybe even look at some young RDs that might be available like Nemec and Clarke

Well, there is like 99% probability that Nemec will be traded of they keep Keefe as a coach. I am hearing STL is on him which would make perfect sense for them.