HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread 92 Waiting on the DRAFT Edition

[vokiel]

I only have Reinbacher on the 3rd pairing starting off the year. The hope would be for him to move up the lineup as he gets more adapted to NHL play and slowly bring him along. Ultimately, I's hope he becomes the top pairing RHD in the future but would not want him to start there and burn out. Shelter him until carrier's contract comes up, then move him to 2nd pairing and so on.

Then I think he needs to start there, otherwise we'd have issues signing UFAs to high contract if they knew their minutes will go down based on principal.

Or we keep Hutson playing on the right and Reinbacher #4 with Carrier #5... Meaning we need a LHD if Xhekaj and Struble can't play #3 or #4.

Guhle - Hutson
XXXX - Reinbacher
Struble/Xhekaj - Carrier

Is what I'm thinking about atm.. Easier to find a LHD also.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Then I think he needs to start there, otherwise we'd have issues signing UFAs to high contract if they knew their minutes will go down based on principal.

Or we keep Hutson playing on the right and Reinbacher #4 with Carrier #5... Meaning we need a LHD if Xhekaj and Struble can't play #3 or #4.

Guhle - Hutson
XXXX - Reinbacher
Struble/Xhekaj - Carrier

Is what I'm thinking about atm.. Easier to find a LHD also.

I don’t think Reinbacher will be ready to be a true number 1 for several years. In that time a no. 1 would fill the role and eventually would split more time with Reinbacher years down the road when they begin to slow down and Reinbacher catches up. That to me would be ideal and give you two high end RHD in your top 4 and really deep defensive corps

As long as the money and term are good, I don’t see a problem with that and Habs would be competitive on day 1 and. It have to hope Reinbacher fills the role for them.

 

[vokiel]

I don’t think Reinbacher will be ready to be a true number 1 for several years. In that time a no. 1 would fill the role and eventually would split more time with Reinbacher years down the road when they begin to slow down and Reinbacher catches up. That to me would be ideal and give you two high end RHD in your top 4 and really deep defensive corps

No but Hutson can definitely handle the minutes if he's used the same way he is right now. So we kinda have a path off of Matheson, involving getting a LHD. That even gives Mailloux extra reps in the AHL.

 

[JadedRandom]

I don't think Matheson serves no purpose (ideally you find a RD upgrade), but Hutson isn't that sheltered. The bigger issue is that Matheson, Carrier and Guhle play incredibly difficult minutes for Montreal, and that its not exactly easy to replace those minutes. Guhle-Carrier was effective in those minutes, but Montreal needs another clear top-4 D if they want to take the next step. I wouldn't be prepared to bet one of Struble, Xhekaj, Reinbacher, Mailloux, etc. can do that next season.

I agree.

But KH will have the time, cap, and the assets to try and acquire a top-4 defenseman this year to help us long-term.

That hypothetical top-4 guy, plus further development from Hutson, and health for Guhle and Reinbacher could go a long way to cementing the depth and quality of our team D in the years to come.

Next year we'd have a blend of Matheson, new top-4, Hutson, Guhle, Carrier rotating-in as parts in the pretty-solidified top-5.

We'd then have either Struble or Xhekaj with Carrier on the bottom-pairing, with Engstrom waiting in the wings and perfecting his craft still.

And I'd give Reinbacher some more reps with Laval unless he shows in camp that he's ready, and the best between him, Struble, and Xhekaj.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I agree.

But KH will have the time, cap, and the assets to try and acquire a top-4 defenseman this year to help us long-term.

That hypothetical top-4 guy, plus further development from Hutson, and health for Guhle and Reinbacher could go a long way to cementing the depth and quality of our team D in the years to come.

Next year we'd have a blend of Matheson, new top-4, Hutson, Guhle, Carrier rotating-in as parts in the pretty-solidified top-5.

We'd then have either Struble or Xhekaj with Carrier on the bottom-pairing, with Engstrom waiting in the wings and perfecting his craft still.

And I'd give Reinbacher some more reps with Laval unless he shows in camp that he's ready, and the best between him, Struble, and Xhekaj.

If Montreal is looking for true top-4 guy, then Matheson is likely part of the return to acquire such player. Simply because you probably can't construct a deal for a player like that without sending an NHLer the other way.

 

[JadedRandom]

If Montreal is looking for true top-4 guy, then Matheson is likely part of the return to acquire such player. Simply because you probably can't construct a deal for a player like that without sending an NHLer the other way.

You can if the other team is rebuilding and wants younger pieces/picks. That, or a certain defenseman doesn't fit in an hypothetical team's plan going forward in some way. Those things happen.

Aside from those eventualities though, I generally agree with what you've said.

 

[Captain Mountain]

You can if the other team is rebuilding and wants younger pieces/picks. That, or a certain defenseman doesn't fit in an hypothetical team's plan going forward in some way. Those things happen.

Aside from those eventualities though, I generally agree with what you've said.

There aren't really any teams that are in a tear it down mindset right now.

 

[Habitant#1]

Trading Xhekaj before seeing how much more effective he can be in the playoffs is crazy IMO.
I'm not talking about fighting: once the refs put away the whistles he will be able clutch&grab like it's the 90s, to say nothing of holding and roughing.

 

[Mrb1p]

How much would it cost to get Tuch?

 

[The Great Weal]

I wonder if Suzuki and Hutson's play will make Hughes be even more willing to overpay for a legit 2C and even top 4 RHD. They need support.

 

[Vachon23]

Repeat after me

Don’t trade Kaiden Guhle

 

[Andrei79]

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Repeat after me

Don’t trade Kaiden Guhle

Listen to this guy. He knows his hockey and is rarely wrong.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I wonder if Suzuki and Hutson's play will make Hughes be even more willing to overpay for a legit 2C and even top 4 RHD. They need support.

It should. And it will also make more players willing to waive a no trade clause to come here.

 

[le_sean]

Repeat after me

Don’t trade Kaiden Guhle

We’d have one of the best contracts in the league if we could guarantee his health.

 

[Mrb1p]

ROR and FF9?
Would Barrel Barry be willing to send them our way? Is ROR still good enough?

I cant say I watched a lot of Nashville this year...

 

[Vachon23]

ROR and FF9?
Would Barrel Barry be willing to send them our way? Is ROR still good enough?

I cant say I watched a lot of Nashville this year...

ROR don’t want to be traded in Canada

FF9 is not a center even if I love the player

 

[Mrb1p]

ROR don’t want to be traded in Canada

FF9 is not a center even if I love the player

I know hes not a center, hed look great on Suzukis wing though.

Gotta upgrade on Slaf and Cole, if possible.

 

[The Great Weal]

It should. And it will also make more players willing to waive a no trade clause to come here.

Toffoli signed here after Suzuki's first playoff performance because he wanted to play next to him. Hopefully Duchene does the same.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Toffoli signed here after Suzuki's first playoff performance because he wanted to play next to him. Hopefully Duchene does the same.

I will say this again, the Canadiens should go hard after Crosby. Three firsts and ask for permission to speak with him. Add him and this team will win a cup in the next couple of years. We could keep the first line as is and put Demidov with Crosby on line 1A/B with Laine. The D is already pretty set... we could win a cup as soon as next year.

 

[CrAzYNiNe]

Then I think he needs to start there, otherwise we'd have issues signing UFAs to high contract if they knew their minutes will go down based on principal.

Or we keep Hutson playing on the right and Reinbacher #4 with Carrier #5... Meaning we need a LHD if Xhekaj and Struble can't play #3 or #4.

Guhle - Hutson
XXXX - Reinbacher
Struble/Xhekaj - Carrier

Is what I'm thinking about atm.. Easier to find a LHD also.

I'm so on the fence with if I give a shit that a D playing the right side has to shoot right. I like what you are saying, Hutson is looking very comfortable pretty much anywhere you play him.

 

[The Great Weal]

I will say this again, the Canadiens should go hard after Crosby. Three firsts and ask for permission to speak with him. Add him and this team will win a cup in the next couple of years. We could keep the first line as is and put Demidov with Crosby on line 1A/B with Laine. The D is already pretty set... we could win a cup as soon as next year.

Crosby has said many times he wants to retire as a Pen

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Crosby has said many times he wants to retire as a Pen

I know. And you’d expect him to say that. I’m sure Ray Bourque, Jarome Iginla and others have said it to. And unlike them he may mean it.

But you don’t know unless you ask.

 

[Scriptor]

I will say this again, the Canadiens should go hard after Crosby. Three firsts and ask for permission to speak with him. Add him and this team will win a cup in the next couple of years. We could keep the first line as is and put Demidov with Crosby on line 1A/B with Laine. The D is already pretty set... we could win a cup as soon as next year.

Three first for Crosby makes no sense for Crosby at this stage his career Three years old.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Three first for Crosby makes no sense for Crosby at this stage his career Three years old.

Yes it does. We have excess picks/prospects to trade with. Time to cash in. Crosby is still one of the best players in the league. You’re going to have to pay a premium.

 

[Kimota]

Repeat after me

Don’t trade Kaiden Guhle

I don't want to. But his injuries are becoming an issue. If we become ready to compete and there's a big hole on the left cause he is always injured, it will become an issue.