HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #91: 2025 Trade Deadline edition

[Treb]

There's no way we'd retain on Matheson. He's not even making $5m. In UFA, he's easily looking at more than $5m.

Gallagher has a full NMC & he doesn't seem interested in moving, especially now that he's married to a Montreal girl & has a newborn.

I guess if we move Anderson at the draft.

The retain on Matheson wouldn't be to make him tradeable, it would be to maximize his value.

Imagine a contending team adding a 2.4ish million top4 D like Matheson BEFORE making their summer shopping.

Anderson/Gallagher trades can wait for the Petry/Allen retention to expire.

The only other possibilities (except the obvious core) are Laine, Xhekaj, Dach or Newhook. I don't see them needing to use it on Xhekaj/Dach/Newhook so the only other option from then ones previously mentioned is Laine and I don't see them trading him.

For Gallagher, I could see him wanting to move back in west Canada to Vancouver or Edmonton.

 

[sampollock]

"If I were Kent Hughes and Jeff Gorton, I would be very aggressive in my quest to find a solid center who will be with the organization for the long term. And not a rental player.

My two main candidates would be Dylan Cozens and Brayden Schenn." - François Gagno

not sure on cozens.. hear from your fine posters he is soft

 

[WentWughes]

Bo Horvat would be a dream to trade for. Top six two way centre that is strong on faceoffs, good shot, and shoots left. I could not think of a better fit. I doubt he would be on the market for a reasonable price though.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

He is worth calling for - but I'm not sold that he is much better than Dach. I'd prefer to target someone either more physical/tenacious (Horvat/ JT Miller etc) or higher ceiling (a couple years younger with upside and hasn't got their big contract yet).


Norris for Dach - equal injury investments and we throw in some crutches and extra gauze.

Norris is actually good when he's healthy, though

"If I were Kent Hughes and Jeff Gorton, I would be very aggressive in my quest to find a solid center who will be with the organization for the long term. And not a rental player.

My two main candidates would be Dylan Cozens and Brayden Schenn." - François Gagno

not sure on cozens.. hear from your fine posters he is soft

f*** Francois Gagnon.

Shit has already been discussed to death

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Brayden Schenn would be excellent. Probably not cheap, but we have the pieces to make it happen if we really want to .

 

[red devil]

There's no way we'd retain on Matheson. He's not even making $5m. In UFA, he's easily looking at more than $5m.

Gallagher has a full NMC & he doesn't seem interested in moving, especially now that he's married to a Montreal girl & has a newborn.

I guess if we move Anderson at the draft.

Gallagher's contract isn't a Full NMC. He has a NMC where he can't be waived but it only comes with 6 team NTC.

https://puckpedia.com/player/brendan-gallagher

 

[26Mats]

The retain on Matheson wouldn't be to make him tradeable, it would be to maximize his value.

Imagine a contending team adding a 2.4ish million top4 D like Matheson BEFORE making their summer shopping.

Anderson/Gallagher trades can wait for the Petry/Allen retention to expire.

The only other possibilities (except the obvious core) are Laine, Xhekaj, Dach or Newhook. I don't see them needing to use it on Xhekaj/Dach/Newhook so the only other option from then ones previously mentioned is Laine and I don't see them trading him.

For Gallagher, I could see him wanting to move back in west Canada to Vancouver or Edmonton.

If Laine can stay healthy and put up decent numbers, I wonder what his trade value would be at 50% retained.

He may not like his role and ask for a trade in the summer. We'll see how things shake out. If we make a close run for the playoffs, he may want to stay with the group.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

"If I were Kent Hughes and Jeff Gorton, I would be very aggressive in my quest to find a solid center who will be with the organization for the long term. And not a rental player.

My two main candidates would be Dylan Cozens and Brayden Schenn." - François Gagno

not sure on cozens.. hear from your fine posters he is soft

Schenn too old, Cozens not that good

 

[Nevins]

Here are the UFA centers this summer: Tavares, Duchesne, Granlund, Marner?, Donato, Nelson, Bennett, Roslovic, Giroux.
Signing one for 2 or 3 years, the time to develop Hage or a prospect drafted in 2025 would perhaps be the best solution.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

We need a legit 2C and can't back on another Dach/Newhook project. However, I'd say that in most cases, we wouldn't entertain trading Demidov/Reinbacher/Hage. And I don't think we can get that legit 2C with our 1sts this year, Mailloux, and Roy.

PLD would have been perfect, a damn shame his awful year last year probably scared us.

He was not coming to Montreal unless he came cheap or as an FA. Once he opened up the bidding instead of forcing the jets to trade him to the Habs he was gone.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Here are the UFA centers this summer: Tavares, Duchesne, Granlund, Marner?, Donato, Nelson, Bennett, Roslovic, Giroux.
Signing one for 2 or 3 years, the time to develop Hage or a prospect drafted in 2025 would perhaps be the best solution.

 

[LesCactus]

Here are the UFA centers this summer: Tavares, Duchesne, Granlund, Marner?, Donato, Nelson, Bennett, Roslovic, Giroux.
Signing one for 2 or 3 years, the time to develop Hage or a prospect drafted in 2025 would perhaps be the best solution.

Nelson is a good bridge for Hage.

 

[waitin425]

Here are the UFA centers this summer: Tavares, Duchesne, Granlund, Marner?, Donato, Nelson, Bennett, Roslovic, Giroux.
Signing one for 2 or 3 years, the time to develop Hage or a prospect drafted in 2025 would perhaps be the best solution.

Pajama boy consistently puts up points. Near PPG this year. While I doubt he leaves Toronto, if the price was right - say 3 years @ 7 mil - I would probably do it. Get him for his 35-37 years in the NHL. I'd even go to 4 years at a 6.75 mil range.

Would be the funniest shit ever if he came to us and won a Cup after 7 years wearing his boyhood jammie jams.

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Heinemen - Tavares - Demidov
Laine - Dach - Newhook
Anderson - Evans - Beck
Gally/Kapanen

 

[Garry Valk]

Brayden Schenn would be excellent. Probably not cheap, but we have the pieces to make it happen if we really want to .

He can’t skate anymore.

 

[Nevins]

Pajama boy consistently puts up points. Near PPG this year. While I doubt he leaves Toronto, if the price was right - say 3 years @ 7 mil - I would probably do it. Get him for his 35-37 years in the NHL. I'd even go to 4 years at a 6.75 mil range.

Would be the funniest shit ever if he came to us and won a Cup after 7 years wearing his boyhood jammie jams.

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Heinemen - Tavares - Demidov
Laine - Dach - Newhook
Anderson - Evans - Beck
Gally/Kapanen

Even 8$ Millions

 

[ZUKI]

I agree … let’s see what HuGos thinking. If Uncle Lou is ready to raise the white flag, NYI / Habs make good trade partners with all the draft collateral HuGo have to offer up for a rental… Brock Nelson? Not sure if Preds are ready to deal ROR?

My top-2 targets, ROR preferred


Gallagher already stated so last night “control our own destiny”

Maybe he was talking about his newborn baby

 

[waitin425]

Even 8$ Millions

Too rich for me. Maybe 2 years at 8 million. But I don't go 3 years at that rate and most definitely not 4. Tavares drop off is coming soon, so the AAV has to factor in the drop off likely to happen 3 years fro now.

 

[The Great Weal]

He was not coming to Montreal unless he came cheap or as an FA. Once he opened up the bidding instead of forcing the jets to trade him to the Habs he was gone.

I'm talking about when the Caps traded their cap dump for him

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

It has to be where Hughes is headed. He is extremely anal about not losing players for nothing.

We only need remember the gymnastics Hughes went through last season by tolerating a burdensome 3-goalie system rather than lose out on what was and turned out to be a measly return on Jake Tank Commander Allen.

I don't have an issue with this honestly. He did let some guys go for nothing like Drouin.

 

[Andrei79]

Prices look very high right now, could be a good deadline for us

Prepare to be disapointed. I'll be surprised if they sell, unless they're acquiring players too.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

If Laine can stay healthy and put up decent numbers, I wonder what his trade value would be at 50% retained.

He may not like his role and ask for a trade in the summer. We'll see how things shake out. If we make a close run for the playoffs, he may want to stay with the group.

I guarantee you Laine won't ask for a trade after only playing half a season with his new team...

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Prepare to be disapointed. I'll be surprised if they sell, unless they're acquiring players too.

Buddy my expectations for this team could not possibly be lower

 

[26Mats]

I guarantee you Laine won't ask for a trade after only playing half a season with his new team...

I'm not sure he's liking his role/ice time.

 

[TheArch]

The retain on Matheson wouldn't be to make him tradeable, it would be to maximize his value.

Imagine a contending team adding a 2.4ish million top4 D like Matheson BEFORE making their summer shopping.

Anderson/Gallagher trades can wait for the Petry/Allen retention to expire.

The only other possibilities (except the obvious core) are Laine, Xhekaj, Dach or Newhook. I don't see them needing to use it on Xhekaj/Dach/Newhook so the only other option from then ones previously mentioned is Laine and I don't see them trading him.

For Gallagher, I could see him wanting to move back in west Canada to Vancouver or Edmonton.

It's pretty obvious Hughes won't trade away anyone. Now it's about a long term 2C solution and / or a cheap add (for a 4+ round pick). I also see him being a third part in a deal that would give us a decent role piece.

I'm not sure he's liking his role/ice time.

Who cares. He has no trade value now, and his only path is to adjust to reality and play real hockey, not "I slow down everything and lose the puck doing so" type of game. He needs to figure out the advantages to play with pace. He win / do this with us, or he's having a shitty next contract on a doomed team.

 

[TheArch]

Too rich for me. Maybe 2 years at 8 million. But I don't go 3 years at that rate and most definitely not 4. Tavares drop off is coming soon, so the AAV has to factor in the drop off likely to happen 3 years fro now.

The only short term deal UFA I would target if I fail everything else is Matt Duchene. Overpay for 2 years, an easy quick term fix that buy you some time to figure out a long term solution.