HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #91: 2025 Trade Deadline edition

[Captain Mountain]

You think HuGo will empty the bottom 6 at the deadline without getting replacement pieces?

Those 2 are sort term stop gaps you get for secondary assets.

There's a pretty good chance they will cost what Evans will in a trade.

Montreal's also not going to empty out the bottom 6, he'll trade one or two guys if his price is met.

 

[TomKosto]

You think HuGo will empty the bottom 6 at the deadline without getting replacement pieces?

Those 2 are sort term stop gaps you get for secondary assets.

We will most likely get a plug from a team in a trade involving Evans/Armia.

We wont pay for some 33 yolders

 

[Scotianhab]

There’s a crazy guy on the Leafs board that wants Gallagher 50% retained. We’d have to take back Kampf plus throw in a pick. Won’t happen but first time I saw someone wanting Gallagher lol

 

[Benstheman]

We will most likely get a plug from a team in a trade involving Evans/Armia.

We wont pay for some 33 yolders

How do you think those guys would cost??

I mean Gourde is coming back from LTIR and cost 5,1M$. Shouldn't be worth more than a 3rd or something. I disagree HuGo will sold everything without getting some replacement pieces that help us fighting for a playoffs spot.

There's a pretty good chance they will cost what Evans will in a trade.

Montreal's also not going to empty out the bottom 6, he'll trade one or two guys if his price is met.

No way in hell Gourde is getting what Evans get in a trade. He is literally making 3 times more than Evans and is coming back from LTIR.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

There’s a crazy guy on the Leafs board that wants Gallagher 50% retained. We’d have to take back Kampf plus throw in a pick. Won’t happen but first time I saw someone wanting Gallagher lol

 

[Benstheman]

There's a pretty good chance they will cost what Evans will in a trade.

Montreal's also not going to empty out the bottom 6, he'll trade one or two guys if his price is met.

If Armia and Evans are traded, we unequivocally are a way worse as a team. Probably they don't trade Dvorak but he doesn't have the same impact.

 

[Egresch]

This is a difference between strategic thinking and micro management.
You always need to think about the ultimate goal of this rebuild and that is obviously winning the Cup.
We are still 2-3 years away from contending. Is it really important to have Evans or do we let Beck, Kapanen, Hage develop in those 2-3 years?
Do we really care who will replace them for 20 games, if it has zero impact on our cup aspiration?

 

[EveryDay]

This is a difference between strategic thinking and micro management.
You always need to think about the ultimate goal of this rebuild and that is obviously winning the Cup.
We are still 2-3 years away from contending. Is it really important to have Evans or do we let Beck, Kapanen, Hage develop in those 2-3 years?
Do we really care who will replace them for 20 games, if it has zero impact on our cup aspiration?

It's not only these 20 games, it's also next year as well. Are they expecting that a 3rd + a 2nd line center will be available for them this summer?

 

[Benstheman]

This is a difference between strategic thinking and micro management.
You always need to think about the ultimate goal of this rebuild and that is obviously winning the Cup.
We are still 2-3 years away from contending. Is it really important to have Evans or do we let Beck, Kapanen, Hage develop in those 2-3 years?
Do we really care who will replace them for 20 games, if it has zero impact on our cup aspiration?

It's not about us. It's about the core battling for a playoffs spot.

 

[Habssince89]

There’s a crazy guy on the Leafs board that wants Gallagher 50% retained. We’d have to take back Kampf plus throw in a pick. Won’t happen but first time I saw someone wanting Gallagher lol

money aside if a team somehow made it work to take gally I bet he'd have a great stretch to start with the new team. Opponents just wouldn't be used to him in his new arrangement and I think he would be a good pickup. Beyond a playoff run, well.... I have doubts

 

[Scotianhab]

We could probably sign Armia back this summer to a 2 year contract that’s less than he’s making now even after trading him at the deadline. He’s not a bad player for the PK

 

[themilosh]

You think HuGo will empty the bottom 6 at the deadline without getting replacement pieces?

Those 2 are sort term stop gaps you get for secondary assets.

im fine if he gets stop gap help - but NO MORE small guys... they can go work for Antichambre when they retire.

 

[LaP]

It's not only these 20 games, it's also next year as well. Are they expecting that a 3rd + a 2nd line center will be available for them this summer?

Evans is not a 2nd line center. Beck looks ready to play the role of a 3rd line center. KH will have to find a center for the 2nd line next season and Evans ain't the answer to that challenge.

 

[Benstheman]

im fine if he gets stop gap help - but NO MORE small guys... they can go work for Antichambre when they retire.

Fair enough. Though I prefer small guys that can play hockey.

 

[HuGort]

Duchene had the same path before going to Dallas

I get bad feel about him though

 

[LaP]

It's not about us. It's about the core battling for a playoffs spot.

Not really. It's about KH. He is the one taking the decisions and he should take the best decisions to eventually win a cup and disregard players emotion. No more moyal dogs. No more crying after signing Gallagher to a stupid contract. Personally as a fan i'm done with the participation trophies i want the real one i was still a virgin the last time we won for god sake.

 

[BergevinBurner]

This is a difference between strategic thinking and micro management.
You always need to think about the ultimate goal of this rebuild and that is obviously winning the Cup.
We are still 2-3 years away from contending. Is it really important to have Evans or do we let Beck, Kapanen, Hage develop in those 2-3 years?
Do we really care who will replace them for 20 games, if it has zero impact on our cup aspiration?

Strategic thinking also means you have to factor in the very real possibility of a losing culture setting in like in Buffalo and Ottawa.

 

[Benstheman]

Not really. It's about KH. He is the one taking the decisions and he should take the best decisions to eventually win a cup and disregard players emotion. No more moyal dogs. No more crying after signing Gallagher to a stupid contract. Personally as a fan i'm done with the participation trophies i want the real one i was still a virgin the last time we won for god sake.

Yeah but you are minimizing the impact of battling and maybe making the playoffs for the players development. Curious how people are only thinking about future player and never the actual players that will still be here when we compete.

 

[TheArch]

One thing is sure is if HuGo trades Evans, it will be Wednesday. Ride him as long as possible considering our standings situation.

It's well known it's a good move to risk your asset as long as possible.

 

[Benstheman]

It's well known it's a good move to risk your asset as long as possible.

Well as for now, Evans plays tonight. So I'm still right.

 

[TheArch]

Yeah but you are minimizing the impact of battling and maybe making the playoffs for the players development. Curious how people are only thinking about future player and never the actual players that will still be here when we compe

This is a difference between strategic thinking and micro management.
You always need to think about the ultimate goal of this rebuild and that is obviously winning the Cup.
We are still 2-3 years away from contending. Is it really important to have Evans or do we let Beck, Kapanen, Hage develop in those 2-3 years?
Do we really care who will replace them for 20 games, if it has zero impact on our cup aspiration?

This

 

[Benstheman]

This

Evans has nothing to do with Hage. You have 2 spots at center on the bottom 6 for Evans and Beck. Kapanen is far from being a sure thing in the NHL, let alone at Center. If he makes it, it might very well be as a bottom 6 winger.

 

[sheed36]

If Hughes trades any of his UFA's for picks I'd rather it be for 2026 picks since they likely have enough picks for this years draft already.

If Hughes does make any moves this week it'll likely only be Evans (if not re-signed by Friday) and Armia with Dvo and Savard most likely staying due to their cap hits and likely low value and Hughes likely not wanting to use his final retention slot on either to maybe get a 4th instead of a 5th for either.

I'd say he likely wants to keep his final retention slot to keep his options open for anything that maybe present itself around the draft like retaining on a Matheson or maybe Anderson or something like that.

 

[Ozmodiar]

some people don’t realize contending is something you build up to. It doesn’t just happen “2 years from now”.

This is why management wanted them “in the mix”. … and why Suzuki and MSL are talking about the importance of this current stretch of games.

Players develop when games matter. Hockey ops finds holes in the roster.

 

[red devil]

How come randomly random people get insight into things ?

Was it free agency, or last year's trade deadline when the Twitter user shay something who only posted clips and I think wrote articles started posting all these rumours that turned out.

You are thinking of Shayna Goldman and she broke the Matheson trade to Montreal. She writes for the Athletic and is a common guest on Jeff Marek's new podcast.