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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #91: 2025 Trade Deadline edition

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The Great Weal said:
You're not wrong, but I also feel like the irony has to be pointed out that when Laine got sent to the 4th line for a couple of games, Dach and Newhook "excelled" and the nonsense that it was actually Laine holding him back. Neither statement is true.
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They were all holding each other back. Newhook and Dach never showed any chemistry. Laine was terrible in that stretch. All of that is to be expected recovering from an injury, just like Dach was. All poor play was explained for anyone but Newhook.

Newhook is going to benefit from being on a 3rd line and playing a more direct game.

But Marty's other lines were working, so that was basically a kitchen sink line to try and figure it out together without touching the other 3 trios, until Heineman got hurt and the blender was required to move things around.
 
le_sean said:
Just funny that people kept claiming Kirby was back because of a handful of games where he was scoring goals. But ended his season with 3 points and a -6 in his last 9 games.

He’s the same player he was Day 1, the reason why Chicago was eager to get rid of him.
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I didn't want to bring up how many of his goals during his stretch this season were complete trash and lucky because his defenders would rush to his rescue like always. There was still a noticeable improvement in pace with his game, although clearly not enough. Guys like Hertl and Svechnikov had the same injury, and despite their struggles, they didn't become the worst defensive player in the league with no production.

I'm not buying that the Hawks were looking to dump him quick, but I'm also not buying the "they were clearly tanking for Bedard" counter-argument. They decided to take a chance on trading a highly drafted player that wasn't working out for them and still get something valuable. Would have been nice if we did the same with KK and if the Canes owner didn't get his ego hurt, I'm convinced KK would have been traded for a mid round pick down the line due to MB's non-existent vision. Not like we did anything with that 1st anyways.

WeThreeKings said:
They were all holding each other back. Newhook and Dach never showed any chemistry. Laine was terrible in that stretch. All of that is to be expected recovering from an injury, just like Dach was. All poor play was explained for anyone but Newhook.

Newhook is going to benefit from being on a 3rd line and playing a more direct game.

But Marty's other lines were working, so that was basically a kitchen sink line to try and figure it out together without touching the other 3 trios, until Heineman got hurt and the blender was required to move things around.
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Again, you're not wrong (although I don't think Newhook has the physicality/defensive game/faceoff ability to be an effective 3rd liner. But saying they were all holding each other back is different than the comments posted when that 2nd line looked solid offensively when Laine was sent to the 4th line and posters pretending like it was a causative factor for that 2nd line's success.
 
The Great Weal said:
I didn't want to bring up how many of his goals during his stretch this season were complete trash and lucky because his defenders would rush to his rescue like always. There was still a noticeable improvement in pace with his game, although clearly not enough. Guys like Hertl and Svechnikov had the same injury, and despite their struggles, they didn't become the worst defensive player in the league with no production.

I'm not buying that the Hawks were looking to dump him quick, but I'm also not buying the "they were clearly tanking for Bedard" counter-argument. They decided to take a chance on trading a highly drafted player that wasn't working out for them and still get something valuable. Would have been nice if we did the same with KK and if the Canes owner didn't get his ego hurt, I'm convinced KK would have been traded for a mid round pick down the line due to MB's non-existent vision. Not like we did anything with that 1st anyways.


Again, you're not wrong (although I don't think Newhook has the physicality/defensive game/faceoff ability to be an effective 3rd liner. But saying they were all holding each other back is different than the comments posted when that 2nd line looked solid offensively when Laine was sent to the 4th line and posters pretending like it was a causative factor for that 2nd line's success.
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No, but there were posters who were blaming Dach and Newhook specifically for Laine looking bad, when Laine himself was just killing plays on that line.

They were not to blame for Laine playing poorly during that stretch, nor was removing Laine the reason why they started producing more once he was off that line, just that the line had not been working for a long time, there was no chemistry and it was not Laine being held back, his own play held him back.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
No, but there were posters who were blaming Dach and Newhook specifically for Laine looking bad, when Laine himself was just killing plays on that line.

They were not to blame for Laine playing poorly during that stretch, nor was removing Laine the reason why they started producing more once he was off that line, just that the line had not been working for a long time, there was no chemistry and it was not Laine being held back, his own play held him back.
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the blame is always on 92
yet a whole season he would be a 40 goal man
 
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sampollock said:
the blame is always on 92
yet a whole season he would be a 40 goal man
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Nah, there were plenty of people trying to pawn his poor play off on anyone who touched the ice with him.

No one needed to get defensive that Laine was a skating turn over at the time. He was coming back off multiple injuries and missed time. Expecting him to not look like shit for spells is the mistake.
 
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BLONG7 said:
Patty has talent, no doubt.

Should we call the Ducks about TZ??
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No. He's from the same draft as Dach and Caufield. We don't need another reclamation project, we need a proven player. In the 23-24 age range what you see is what you get. Zegras is not what we need.
 
The Great Weal said:
If Kent Hughes can add Tage Thompson without giving up Suzuki/Slaf/CC/Demidov/Hutson, I will be calling him Big Dick Kent throughout his entire tenure.
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Yeah he'd be perfect here. Huge guy, big on talent. if he puts it together he can be and will remain a force.

Like you said, anybody but those guys on the table for him and I'm in.
 
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