HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #91: 2025 Trade Deadline edition

[WinterLion]

TRADE THEM ALL!!

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Yeah, I mean outside of the top 6-7-8 the odds are against you picking a talented player and they go down from there. By the time you are picking in the last part of the 1st round it may be a 20 % chance of a good player. But you still need picks and the higher the better and the more you have the better it is.

All Im saying is we have reached a point where if we unload the UFAs we have, it will no doubt cause us to drop in the standings. These guys get we are rebuilding but they are tired of losing and for purposes of development, i think the value of mid round picks and later, just isnt worth the loss of the boys learning how to fight for something bigger than just winning a single game. It will also signal the turnaround , which again is important, see Buffalo.

At this point the only UFA guy who appears to get us anything of value is Evans, and thats just a 2nd. Again, just balancing development.

The total calculus is as follows.

The Habs can trade Dvorak, Evans, Armia, Savard, and get back a return of approximately four 2nd round picks. The Habs get worse and the 1st pick lands in the 5-8 range rather than the 10-14 range, which also helps keep Calgary out of the top ten. Mailloux (or Trudeau, or Engstrom) and Roy likely get some NHL time.

Or ...

The Habs win a few more games, which is better for the development of the young players currently on the roster, and sends a message of support to a roster that is competing and trying to win.

but does losing 5/6 games more because we traded Evans and Armia really make a difference in our development ? i mean i get the whole point of not wanting to be like the Buffalo Sabres but personally i think our team would benefit more from trading them IF we can get a 1st/2nd i could be wrong tho this is just my personal opinion

Going into this draft with a bunch of 1sts and 2nds can give us so many options to move up or trade for young players ready to help us next season i know we already have 2 firsts but a first round pick is very valuable to every team so the more the better

 

[Benstheman]

if Evans is worth a 2nd, I have no doubt in my mind he is staying and they try to extend him. 5 X 3,5 M$.

Armia is also staying unless they can get a solid prospect if they retain 50% on his salary. I also extend him if he accepts under 3 M$ for 2-3 years.

The ones I try to upgrade are Newhook and Dach on offense and Matheson on D. Kind of players without a real identity that bring uncertainty building your roster.

Demidov-Suzuki-Caufield
Slaf-2C-Laine
Heineman-Evans-Armia
Anderson-Beck-Gallagher
Kapanen

If Armia is not extended, you plug Kapanen on the bottom 6.

If both Evans and Armia are gone, you have a spot for one of Dach or Newhook, or you sign Olivier if he is making it as a UFA.

For me, everything is on the table for the right add, except for Reinbacher and Demidov. I love Hage and hope we keep him but in a package for the right player (top pair RHD or top 6 C), he needs to be disponible imo. All 2025 and 2026 picks are disponible also and all the prospects.

Time to get to the next step.

 

[eklund the clown]

We are not going to lose 5 or 6 more games because we trade Dvorak ,Armia,Evans etc. These guys are not core players.Would be stupid of Hughes to keep these guys when he can get assets for them.Even by a miracle that we get into last wild card which i doubt we are not going anywhere this year.It took overtime to beat the Sharks who are the worst team in the NHL.Start trading Mr. Hughes

 

[Mats Naslund]

I agree with everyone who says the Vets need to go especially those with expiring contracts. Even if Montreal makes the playoffs it's likely to be a 1st round exit with or without them and you may as well give that experience to the young and up and coming players if the playoffs do come to fruition.

Savard UFA - Easily replaceable as far ice time on ice is concerned - 2nd Rounder
Dvorak UFA - Might land the Habs a 4th but you take it and let Beck play
Armia and evans expiring contracts if you get a 1st for the combo you take it and if you don't get what you want hold on to them and roll the dice on new home town deals next year.

Vets with Contracts that can also get you a decent return and are replaceable.

Matheson - can prob fetch you a 2nd maybe a low end 1st once all the D have been traded and teams are moving to their 2nd and 3rd options.

Gallagher - love him but he's on the decline despite having a fine season, I would take what I could get for him now but doubt they can move that contract.

Josh Anderson has some value for a playoff team looking for depth I really think he can get a 2nd from someone or be used in package with Armia Evans. (Armia Evans Anderson for a 1st and prospect + salary dump tp make the trade work)

Newhook may fetch a 3rd or 4th to a team looking for some depth on offence. He has good wheels and has shown some promise but Montreal just isn't the right fit since they're weak at C. Might as well get rid of the cap hit.

I would try and trade for Seth Jones or Noah Dobson (highly unlikely to acquire) either at the deadline or at the draft table and if that doesn't work try and sign Chykrun as well signing Ehlers in free agency.

Obviously this leaves a ton of holes in the lineup but that's where you give the kids some experience and hope they squeak into a playoff spot.

Finish the year like this assuming no big names come in

Caufield Suzuki Salf
Roy Dach Laine
Heineman Beck Gallagher
Florian Xhekaj Kapanen Tuch

Carrier Hutson
XHekaj Strubble
Mailloux Engstrom
Reinbacher needs some time in Laval due to a injury plagued season

Montambeault
Dobes

NEXT year could like something like this:

Caufield Suzuki Slaf
Ehlers Demidov Laine
Heineman Beck Dach
Gallagher Kapanen Florian Xhekaj

One of Dobson Jones or Chykrun - Hutson
Mailloux - Ghule
Xhekaj - Engstrom
Strubble
Reinbacher needs some time in Laval due to a injury plagued season

 

[yianik]

but does losing 5/6 games more because we traded Evans and Armia really make a difference in our development ? i mean i get the whole point of not wanting to be like the Buffalo Sabres but personally i think our team would benefit more from trading them IF we can get a 1st/2nd i could be wrong tho this is just my personal opinion

I would trade Evans for a 1st.

What do I actually know, right ? Im just thinking that for the past few years its been sell off at TDL because we are rebuilding and not good enough and while its presented opportunities to many, its also been nothing but losing more often than not. If we sell off all the UFAs we have for not much back, then it makes it a certainty we will dive in the standings and the players will have no goal to fight for. Just thinking they need to start playing games that are important and have meaning. Good teams have players that elevate their play when its important to win and I think there are teams that just cant do that for some reason, and just keep losing.

Its also not all or nothing. If we get offered a good pick for Evans, then okay trade him and maybe keep a couple of other guys if the offers are low.

 

[Mats Naslund]

I would trade Evans for a 1st.

What do I actually know, right ? Im just thinking that for the past few years its been sell off at TDL because we are rebuilding and not good enough and while its presented opportunities to many, its also been nothing but losing more often than not. If we sell off all the UFAs we have for not much back, then it makes it a certainty we will dive in the standings and the players will have no goal to fight for. Just thinking they need to start playing games that are important and have meaning. Good teams have players that elevate their play when its important to win and I think there are teams that just cant do that for some reason, and just keep losing.

Its also not all or nothing. If we get offered a good pick for Evans, then okay trade him and maybe keep a couple of other guys if the offers are low.

None of us know jack squat this is all for fun...

Montreal is not getting a 1st for Evans, 2nd at best unless packaged in with Anderson Savard or Armia. In fact nothing Montreal is willing to part with will get them a 1st on their own.

Personally I would move Montambeault ( I think he's overrated), he could get you a 1st and go with Dobes and ??? next year.

Savard and Montambeault to Edmonton for a 1st and B prospect

Armia and Evans plus a 3rd to Minnesota (they don't own a 1st and have the worst ranked PK in the league as well as losing Erikson EK recently) for Danila Yurov

 

[salbutera]

I would trade Evans for a 1st.

What do I actually know, right ? Im just thinking that for the past few years its been sell off at TDL because we are rebuilding and not good enough and while its presented opportunities to many, its also been nothing but losing more often than not. If we sell off all the UFAs we have for not much back, then it makes it a certainty we will dive in the standings and the players will have no goal to fight for. Just thinking they need to start playing games that are important and have meaning. Good teams have players that elevate their play when its important to win and I think there are teams that just cant do that for some reason, and just keep losing.

Its also not all or nothing. If we get offered a good pick for Evans, then okay trade him and maybe keep a couple of other guys if the offers are low.

Part of this “in da mix” process is to evaluate the younger veteran players - the only way to do a proper evaluation on who can elevate their intensity / play in meaningful games is to actually play meaningful games.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Get me a freaking 2C, I don't care how.

 

[calder candidate]

Anything less than 2nd rounder is pretty useless especially in this draft… maybe more asset to move up at best.

Unless you factor in that trading will help the tank and losing a few games would help you gain 3-5 spots which is extremely valuable.

Armia, Evan and Savard need to be traded for the highest return these are useful players for playoff teams, but are not too important that it would set us back if lose them for nothing, KH can be the first to flitch.
Dvorak need to be moved regardless of the return as long as there is a return, Futur consideration would be fine.
That last retention spot could also be valuable and cap need to be maximized since this is the last year that so many team will be having cap issues, not sure retaining on one of our own player will be optimal.

 

[Mats Naslund]

Get me a freaking 2C, I don't care how.

I would try moving Demidov to C or like I said in another post trade Danila Yurov (20 year old) Armia Evans and a 2nd or 3rd. Minnesota is desperate after losing Erikson-EK and have one f the worst PK's in the league, this changes that for them immediately.

You can then have a second line of Laine Yurov Demidov

 

[LaP]

if Evans is worth a 2nd, I have no doubt in my mind he is staying and they try to extend him. 5 X 3,5 M$.

Armia is also staying unless they can get a solid prospect if they retain 50% on his salary. I also extend him if he accepts under 3 M$ for 2-3 years.

The ones I try to upgrade are Newhook and Dach on offense and Matheson on D. Kind of players without a real identity that bring uncertainty building your roster.

Demidov-Suzuki-Caufield
Slaf-2C-Laine
Heineman-Evans-Armia
Anderson-Beck-Gallagher
Kapanen

If Armia is not extended, you plug Kapanen on the bottom 6.

If both Evans and Armia are gone, you have a spot for one of Dach or Newhook, or you sign Olivier if he is making it as a UFA.

For me, everything is on the table for the right add, except for Reinbacher and Demidov. I love Hage and hope we keep him but in a package for the right player (top pair RHD or top 6 C), he needs to be disponible imo. All 2025 and 2026 picks are disponible also and all the prospects.

Time to get to the next step.

I'm not sure why we should trade Newhook or Dach at their lowest possible value just to sign Armia. This is madness imo. The guy will be 32 next season.

 

[LaP]

Anything less than 2nd rounder is pretty useless especially in this draft… maybe more asset to move up at best.

Unless you factor in that trading will help the tank and losing a few games would help you gain 3-5 spots which is extremely valuable.

Armia, Evan and Savard need to be traded for the highest return these are useful players for playoff teams, but are not too important that it would set us back if lose them for nothing, KH can be the first to flitch.
Dvorak need to be moved regardless of the return as long as there is a return, Futur consideration would be fine.
That last retention spot could also be valuable and cap need to be maximized since this is the last year that so many team will be having cap issues, not sure retaining on one of our own player will be optimal.

2012 was one of the weakest draft ever and Parayko was drafted in the 3rd round along with Stephenson, Esa Lindell, Adam Pelech and Grzelcyk. Also keeping a vet who will decline and block kids for no reason is pretty useless too atm since we are a good 3 years away from something. Our group of vets is vastly overrated by fans. As soon as the kids slow down the team starts losing.

 

[Knuckles30]

Trade anyone who's going to be UFA for 2026 picks, don't care much what it'll take or what we get.

This is the time to go Sam Pollock and trade for picks years away and hope the current contenders are bad by then. Trade Jake Evans for an unprotected 2028 1st. I think there is a limit now on how far away you can trade picks, but I can't find what it is.

 

[Mats Naslund]

I'm not sure why we should trade Newhook or Dach at their lowest possible value just to sign Armia. This is madness imo. The guy will be 32 next season.

Evans wants way too much to stay in Montreal, he's replaceable by guys like Beck and or Kapanen as a 3rd line C in fact Beck is proving he can handle 2nd line duty.

Like I mentioned in another post all the vets should go especially those with expiring contracts. Its time for change and allow the younger players to graduate to the next level

 

[LaP]

This is the time to go Sam Pollock and trade for picks years away and hope the current contenders are bad by then. Trade Jake Evans for an unprotected 2028 1st. I think there is a limit now on how far away you can trade picks, but I can't find what it is.

Exactlky that's what we did with the Pens 2nd round pick and they should be bottom 10 this year which will give us a good 2nd round pick. Get picks in 2027-2028 by that time we should be ready to buy and those picks might be better and more valuable than ours.

 

[vokiel]

This is the time to go Sam Pollock and trade for picks years away and hope the current contenders are bad by then. Trade Jake Evans for an unprotected 2028 1st. I think there is a limit now on how far away you can trade picks, but I can't find what it is.

I would definitely be for taking picks in 2027-28 and further, but GMs and owners usually frown on giving those away as they might not even be the ones sitting on their chair by that time. 2026 should be reasonable, if not we'll just get those picks at the draft geez...

 

[Mats Naslund]

Exactlky that's what we did with the Pens 2nd round pick and they should be bottom 10 this year which will give us a good 2nd round pick. Get picks in 2027-2028 by that time we should be ready to buy and those picks might be better and more valuable than ours.

Very good observation, I really hope they use that pick to select Luca Romano, watched this kid play vs my son in a ton of tournaments over the years. He's not huge but he can really play.


5'11" 168
2007 JUN

OHL
GAMES
58
GOALS
21
ASSISTS
23
POINTS
44

 

[TomKosto]

I would try moving Demidov to C or like I said in another post trade Danila Yurov (20 year old) Armia Evans and a 2nd or 3rd. Minnesota is desperate after losing Erikson-EK and have one f the worst PK's in the league, this changes that for them immediately.

You can then have a second line of Laine Yurov Demidov

If they trade a potential young top6 prospects, it’s not gonna be for two future ufas.

Lebrun just said we have trouble getting a 2nd for Evans so forget about Yurov.

 

[Mats Naslund]

If they trade a potential young top6 prospects, it’s not gonna be for two future ufas.

Lebrun just said we have trouble getting a 2nd for Evans so forget about Yurov.

Obviously Montreal would need to throw more in......Minnesota doesnt have a 1st in this years draft so you could add Calgary's 1st

 

[TomKosto]

Obviously Montreal would need to throw more in......Minnesota doesnt have a 1st in this years draft so you could add Calgary's 1st

Is Yurov that good anyway? Stats are not really great this season.

My bet is Hughes gonna go after a more proven C, not a prospect.

 

[therocket9]

If they trade a potential young top6 prospects, it’s not gonna be for two future ufas.

Lebrun just said we have trouble getting a 2nd for Evans so forget about Yurov.

Lebrun and all insiders no nothing....they said the same about Chiarot and he got a 1st.

 

[Mats Naslund]

Is Yurov that good anyway? Stats are not really great this season.

My bet is Hughes gonna go after a more proven C, not a prospect.

Yurov was hurt and is having ankle surgery, he put up similar numbers to Demidov at the same age last year. He should be back for the KHL playoff and says here may even play in the AHL playoffs this year. The kid is good, I have watched him play (IPTV). He's got what it takes, its always about how they adapt to North America.

Danila Yurov News: Undergoes ankle surgery​

Written by RotoWire Staff

Updated on February 27, 2025 at 12:17pm
Yurov underwent ankle surgery Thursday and is expected to be back in time for the KHL playoffs, Michael Russo of The Athletic reports.

Yurov was selected 24th overall in the opening round of the 2022 NHL Entry Draft by the Wild and is expected to cross the pond at the conclusion of the KHL playoffs. He could play the remainder of the season with AHL Iowa and compete for a job with Minnesota during training camp ahead of the 2025-26 campaign. He has 13 goals and 25 points in 46 games with Magnitogorsk Metallurg of the KHL this season.

 

[OldCraig71]

Get me a freaking 2C, I don't care how.

This has been the issue with this team all year. The drop-off after Suzuki is massive and it can't continue. We need a 50 point guy to take over that spot, someone good at the dot and responsible defensively as well.

 

[EXPOS123]

This has been the issue with this team all year. The drop-off after Suzuki is massive and it can't continue. We need a 50 point guy to take over that spot, someone good at the dot and responsible defensively as well.

It’s actually been an issue for the past 30 years - and during most of those years we barely had a #1C let alone a #2