HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #90: 2024-2025 season part III

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If we sign Bennett to a 8+ million dollar contract and he maintains his scoring average of 45 points a season, Hughes, Gorton and Bennett will be eaten alive by media and fans alike.

Newhook and Dach are on pace for 30 and 35 points and all of you want to catapult them to the moon!! Bennet having 40 point seasons at 8+ million per... yeah good luck with that!
Bennett is super aggressive on the forecheck. Cap is going way up, Habs have many ELC players coming in next few years. be a good contract averaged out.
 
Juuso Valimaki is on waivers. Could help to replace Guhle cheaply. And, with the Finnish connection in MTL, might find his groove.

On the other hand, KH looks happy to roll with what he’s got.
 
...just give Struble a shot, kid deserves it...
Vilimaki has more offensive potential than Struble. I like Struble for his grit and his calmness in clearing, but he isn’t really about to lead a power play or make good offensive dzone exits. Vilimaki has that potential and is still young for a D. Cost very little and could swap out with Struble in games where less oomph is needed.

He is a first rounder that hasn’t lived up to his potential, but he is still young at 26.
 
Vilimaki has more offensive potential than Struble. I like Struble for his grit and his calmness in clearing, but he isn’t really about to lead a power play or make good offensive dzone exits. Vilimaki has that potential and is still young for a D. Cost very little and could swap out with Struble in games where less oomph is needed.

He is a first rounder that hasn’t lived up to his potential, but he is still young at 26.

...we have LD puckmovers, many of them...why add another??...seems like a waste to me...
 
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Vilimaki has more offensive potential than Struble. I like Struble for his grit and his calmness in clearing, but he isn’t really about to lead a power play or make good offensive dzone exits. Vilimaki has that potential and is still young for a D. Cost very little and could swap out with Struble in games where less oomph is needed.

He is a first rounder that hasn’t lived up to his potential, but he is still young at 26.
Struble is a good passer. I also see him as the one replacing Guhle.
I'm not sure why you would want someone for the PP.

Habs need a 7th D though and Valimaki could be of use.
Problem is, he has another year on his contract at 2M. So unless Habs see some untapped potential in him, they will probably pass.
 
Good points but maybe the Canes aren’t giving good bonus money which makes a significant impact in terms of dollars and cents
The way the deal is structured, especially when it comes to those total amounts in the hundred Million range, will be different between richer teams and poorer teams.

Front weighted contracts both are an incentive for players in terms of future dollars and a higher cost at once for a more cash-strapped team. Some teams won't want or be able, even, to extend such a contract, butbthey might be more able to do so over time with money better spread out.

Bonus-laden contracts also pay the payer sooner on a yearly basis (before the season games even start) and, in Canadian jurisdictions, at least, offer fiscal advantages. They however, are lockout proof (player gets paid even if a lockout is declared) and some teams might not be able to absorb such losses as easily as others.

Montreal might be able to offer a more attractive contract structure than the Hurricanes, for example. That said, I don't think that Raantanen will want to come to Montreal, or that Hughes will offer such a contract to Raantanen.
 
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That seems irrationally high risk.
Agreed.

8 X 12.5M in guaranteed money (100M), or two years with the risk of injury THAT WOULD STOP YOUR PAYDAY total at 28M, or 32M even (for those two years), just so you can get 20M more, over the long run?

Greed can be a big risk, but I can see how someone might be unsure to retire comfortably after earning 100M on their final contract. :huh:
 
I think Habs have to trade Dvo, Evans, Armia and Savard at a minimum.

They need spots for youngsters moving up and hopefully add some solid veteran experience. Next year try to move Anderson, Gally and Matheson and repeat.

This team needs to get better players, more veterans and more depth then current so the can insulate new kids coming and support/supplement existing core. At a minimum they’re bringing in Demidov, Beck, Kapanen, Mailloux and Reinbacher next year at one point or another. Not to mention players who may be pushing for spots like Tuch, Roy, Xhekaj as well. Also, with all the cash and prospect/picks, Habs will undoubtedly try to land a big fish or two via trade and/or UFA markets.

Too many players they need to rotate out to make space for better players.
There is a huge misconception that Montreal does not have good depth players.

In fact, while Gallagher, Anderson and Armia may be paid too much for the role that they play with the team at the moment (depth bottom-6 roles), they actually are quality depth players in those spots.

I would prefer a bigger body than Gallagher in his role, but both Anderson and Armia are fine at somewhere around 3M for Anderson and 2.5M-2.75M for Armia.

With better top-6 players, including the youngsters there with more experience, Anderson and Armia -- even Gallagher -- would be useful depth players.

It's more a question of Cap concerns than the quality of the players, really.

Speed, forechecking, PK skills and the odd goal on the rush from Anderson and puck-possession from Armia in the O-zone and good defensive awareness are both skill sets from these players that come in handy when wearing down opponents and supplying complementary scoring in the playoffs.

Let's be objective about the players on hand, including the value of Evans' strong two-way skills. He may not score regularly at the clip that he did during his pre-Christmas run, but hey is dynamic and drives the play forward even when he doesn't score. That, at least, gives you strong forechecking and time spent in the O-zone rather than your own zone.

Always harder for the opponent to score on you from behind their own blue line.
 
There is a huge misconception that Montreal does not have good depth players.

In fact, while Gallagher, Anderson and Armia may be paid too much for the role that they play with the team at the moment (depth bottom-6 roles), they actually are quality depth players in those spots.
Correct. We have good depth players but they're far too good for their role and I find it is problematic in some ways itself.

We're a rebuilding team with a too-heavy bottom6 that helps steal too many points. They won't be a factor in the future team's success either so their success is largely "empty calories" if you'd forgive the metaphor.

Sure, they keep the team ticking and forward-facing but the under-performing young players have not taken a step forward so what does it mean for us to rank better than last year?
 

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