HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #90: 2024-2025 season part III

[vokiel]

If Rantanen does that he's tanking his value on the UFA market.

He needs to prove that he can produce without MacKinnon.

You didn't follow the logic: Hurricanes trade Rantanen to Florida, Rantanen meets Hurricanes in the playoffs and sends them golfing.

One very good reason he isn't traded out of Raleigh.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

The Canes might still manage to sign Rantanen in the end, playing with Aho long term has to be pretty enticing for him. A top winger does need a top center to play with.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Hearing lots of chatter over past few days that Rantanen doesn't want to stay in Carolina long term even if they give him his money.

Really hope Habs have a chance. Would be easiest way to improve our offence without losing any assets

I wonder why?

So far Canes have had issues retaining UFAs they trade for, but are able to resign their own players.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I wonder why?

So far Canes have had issues retaining UFAs they trade for, but are able to resign their own players.

It’s the UFA premium they dont like paying. Habs did them a favour with Aho, but they were fine to let Guentzel, Teraveinen, Pesce etc. go rather then pay them market value. Looks like the same going to happen with Rantanen.

Canes are not a well respected organization amongst players either which doesn’t help.

 

[le_sean]

At a hotel in downtown Montreal and I’ve run into 3 Capitals scouts for some reason which is odd because they don’t play the Habs again this season. Take that as you will, really random.

 

[DAChampion]

At a hotel in downtown Montreal and I’ve run into 3 Capitals scouts for some reason which is odd because they don’t play the Habs again this season. Take that as you will, really random.

Perhaps they did so well with playoff warrior Lars Eller that they now want to offer a pair of second round draft picks for Jake Evans

Win -win for both teams.

 

[le_sean]

Perhaps they did so well with playoff warrior Lars Eller that they now want to offer a pair of second round draft picks for Jake Evans

Win -win for both teams.

At the same time who would they be scouting other than Laval if they are here? They surely aren’t going to make judgments based on the Habs skills competition tomorrow.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I might be willing to take Hendrix Lapierre off their hands

 

[DAChampion]

At the same time who would they be scouting other than Laval if they are here? They surely aren’t going to make judgments based on the Habs skills competition tomorrow.

Ugh you're right. Damn I made a lot of mistakes in the past week

 

[le_sean]

Ugh you're right. Damn I made a lot of mistakes in the past week

It’s probably nothing anyways

 

[vokiel]

I might be willing to take Hendrix Lapierre off their hands

Lets not get over-excited... We'll be happy with Leonard

 

[Sterling Archer]

At the same time who would they be scouting other than Laval if they are here? They surely aren’t going to make judgments based on the Habs skills competition tomorrow.

Weren’t the Caps one of the teams most interested in Evans?

I think they were rumoured to already have offered a 2nd.

Capitals reportedly tried to acquire Canadiens forward Jake Evans last summer, could still be potential fit at this year’s trade deadline

The league-leading Washington Capitals are reportedly looking to bring in another top-nine forward ahead of the NHL's March 7 trade deadline. They've…

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[26Mats]

If Rantanen does that he's tanking his value on the UFA market.

He needs to prove that he can produce without MacKinnon.

Seems risky to give that much that long to someone who produced next to MacKinnon.

How much will he produce in his 30's.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

I would love to get Rants but we have no center for him to play with. There also doesn't seem like a 2nd line center is out there unless you are willing to give up pry away value for Ryan out of Nashville.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Seems risky to give that much that long to someone who produced next to MacKinnon.

How much will he produce in his 30's.

I think he's seeking like 14 mil per year. Now that the cap has gone up more than expected, I am guessing 16 or 17 mil per year. Whether a team gives him that remains to be seen

 

[Vachon23]

Weren’t the Caps one of the teams most interested in Evans?

I think they were rumoured to already have offered a 2nd.

Capitals reportedly tried to acquire Canadiens forward Jake Evans last summer, could still be potential fit at this year’s trade deadline

The league-leading Washington Capitals are reportedly looking to bring in another top-nine forward ahead of the NHL's March 7 trade deadline. They've…

russianmachineneverbreaks.com

They should just offer Ryan Chesley and sign the deal

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Is it though? Bennett’s career high is 49 points.

What matters is the kind of player he is, beyond statistics. He's the kind of player Habs needs for a 2nd center. Maybe Hughes will get another one but that other one will play a similar game as Bennett.

 

[HuGort]

I had been advocating heavily for us to trade for Bennett for a while before he was moved, and I don't recall ever seeing any credible reports that we were in the mix... Despite the obvious fit & need.

Cost was essentially 2*2nds (Heineman being one, ironically). We could have easily beat that back in '21.

Flames have made some bad trades in recent years. Bennett was traded year we went to Finals. I doubt Bergevin was in on that trade as his roster was mostly set.

 

[Weltschmerz]

I wonder why?

So far Canes have had issues retaining UFAs they trade for, but are able to resign their own players.

They lost many of their own players too, Nino, Turbo, Trocheck, Foegele, there are others I can't remember right now.

Just the top guys they hold like Aho and Slavin and KK

Even their coach it was a drama to sign him when it was clear he wanted to stay and they had to keep him.

 

[Egresch]

One potential UFA center gone.

 

[Victoire HuGo]

Some of you guys are vastly underestimating Rantanen and this makes his price drop by 1M and number of suitors even better. I take Rantanen at 12M over Bennett at 9M AINEC

One potential UFA center gone.

Would have been a good replacement for our center UFAs but he's bad at faceoffs

 

[waitin425]

Some of you guys are vastly underestimating Rantanen and this makes his price drop by 1M and number of suitors even better. I take Rantanen at 12M over Bennett at 9M AINEC


Would have been a good replacement for our center UFAs but he's bad at faceoffs

If Carolina panics and is forced to make the trade.

Laine + Evans + Calgary 1st 2025 and Habs 1st 2026.

Rantanen - Suzuki - Demidov
Caufield - Dach - Slaf

 

[26Mats]

Weren’t the Caps one of the teams most interested in Evans?

I think they were rumoured to already have offered a 2nd.

Capitals reportedly tried to acquire Canadiens forward Jake Evans last summer, could still be potential fit at this year’s trade deadline

The league-leading Washington Capitals are reportedly looking to bring in another top-nine forward ahead of the NHL's March 7 trade deadline. They've…

russianmachineneverbreaks.com

Trading Evans for the Capitals 43rd overall pick and drafting Cole Hutson would have been a genius move.

How do we avoid the KK over Tkachuk debacle again: don't draft for need, draft for talent.

 

[Victoire HuGo]

If Carolina panics and is forced to make the trade.

Laine + Evans + Calgary 1st 2025 and Habs 1st 2026.

Rantanen - Suzuki - Demidov
Caufield - Dach - Slaf

You do it for ability to sign him for 8 years? Otherwise don't see much of a point. He saw how great fans are and the facilities over the 4 nations. I'm sure a legend like Saku or fellow Armia and Lehk can sell the city to him

 

[26Mats]

Some of you guys are vastly underestimating Rantanen and this makes his price drop by 1M and number of suitors even better. I take Rantanen at 12M over Bennett at 9M AINEC


Would have been a good replacement for our center UFAs but he's bad at faceoffs

With both of those players, it's not so much the cap hit that is the concern, it's how they'll play in years 5, 6, 7, and possibly 8 of the contract, at that cap hit. In Rantanen's case, that's when he's 33, 34, 35, and 36 years old.

How many players of that age range are in the top 20 in NHL scoring right now? Zero.

Crosby is the first 33+ year old, at 22nd in the league in scoring. 33 year old Panarin is 24th. 34 year old Matt Duchene is 27th. Turning 33, but still 32 year olds Mark Stone and Granlund are then tied for 40th. That's it for the top 40. And how will those players be at 34, 35, 36, and 37?