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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #90: 2024-2025 season part III

Gaylord Q Tinkledink said:
Hughes has a big price on Evans (Friedman said 2nd)

Says teams are interested in Armia

Says Montreal is looking for an impact player/hockey trade. Gives notion to keep an eye on them. Adds it may not happen (duh), but they're interested in bigger hockey trades if they can get a match
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Habs could make a hockey trade where they trade Evans -- and Armia, maybe - plus a prospect and a draft pick for a solution either at C (for the 2C position long term) or at D (for the top-4 RHD that is missing).

Of course, there needs to be a team in a situation to take on the assets which Hughes is willing to give up for one of these solutions.

As long as it isn't for a project, I believe that we are in a position in this rebuild to exchange our first round pick for a genuine impact player, either on D, or at C. It's less sexy on D, but, still, it could be even more crucial to building an eventual Cup winner.

Let's say it takes Montreal's 1st round pick (top-5 protected in case that we win the lottery -- payment would become CAL 1st rounder and MON 2026 1st rounder unprotected fin the pick ends up top-5), Mailloux, Evans and Matheson (at half price) for Dobson (I know, way too much, but still), we would likely have solved our needs at D for the long run without touching our core up front:

Guhle - Dobson
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Engstrom

Even if Guhle became an injury fiasco along the way, I'm pretty confident that Engstrom could step in alongside Dobson to make a solid D pairing and that a RHD like Konyushkov could eventually (2 years) come over to North America to play on a third pairing with Xhekaj

Hughes would likely, especially if we ended up with a top-5 pick at this year's draft and would be putting up our unprotected 1st round pick next year, sign a UFA solution at 2C, either short term or medium to long term, in order to ensure greater odds of making the playoffs next season:

Caufield - Suzuki - Dach
Slafkovsky - Bennett/Duchene (just examples) - Demidov
Heineman - Beck - Laine
Anderson - F. Xhekaj - Gallagher

Guhle - Dobson
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Engstrom

Montembeault
Dobes/Primeau

Pretty sure that this roster has a pretty good chance of making the playoffs. The key will be how the Gs play, IMO, and how much trust the other players have in them so they can concentrate on their jobs.
 
Vachon23 said:
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I appreciate Hughes 'sticking to his price' but it burned him on Anderson and it might end up burning him on Savard too.

I don't know how he will manage a big sell-off without having NHL-ready bodies to replace the departing ones. Hope to see some waiver claims -- it'll be the clearest indication that we should expect some selling.
 
the question is, what team that is in a playoff position or a contender is going to want to make an impact trade in-season? Who's giving up their, young 2-C/ F for whatever package HuGo put together?
I don't see it. I guess we can hypothesize which teams even have this type of player, are in the playoffs and want what we have.

Bergevin was here...so my fever dream says Byfield...or...Laferriere? Turcottte?
the Devils are interested so..Nemec? Not a F, but fits a need. Mercer?
Leafs? Minten?

what else and who else?
 
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Scriptor said:
I'd sign Bennett to 7M X 7 years. It's an overpayment, I believe, but that pivot is a legitimate 2nd line C with two-way skills and able to stabilize the top-9.

Play Dach on the wing with Caufield and Suzuki. It provided good results in the past and a second line of Slafkovsky - Bennett - Demidovcould turn out pretty good.

A third line of Heineman - Beck - Laine could also be gangbusters.
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Bennett won't make it to UFA
plus no tax in FLA never coming here
 
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HuGo Sham said:
the question is, what team that is in a playoff position or a contender is going to want to make an impact trade in-season? Who's giving up their, young 2-C/ F for whatever package HuGo put together?
I don't see it. I guess we can hypothesize which teams even have this type of player, are in the playoffs and want what we have.

Bergevin was here...so my fever dream says Byfield...or...Laferriere? Turcottte?
the Devils are interested so..Nemec? Not a F, but fits a need. Mercer?

what else and who else??
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It's hard to see us make an impact trade directly with a contender when our main assets are green bananas. If it happens, it's probably a 3-way trade.
 
Habs Icing said:
Maybe 5 guys on the list were traded but not of the 8 that are "superior" to Suzuki. Eichel is the only one
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What's your point? It was your list and any player can be traded as 5 of the names on your list of "better than Suzuki" were. It's not even to say there are other "better" or equivalent centers in the league that can be had that you didn't put on your list.

Point is players get moved all the time and there's no reason Habs can't get one of the premier centers available to get a material upgrade up front that the desperately need.
 
Gravity said:
I think a 2nd is a low price for Jake Evans. Thought he'd fetch a 1st easily (especially in this weaker draft).
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I'd be more willing to negotiate with him than turf him for a 3rd 2nd round pick in this weak draft.

Gotta think the asking price is a 2nd rounder in '26 or '27.
 
Gravity said:
I don't think Hughes is going to keep the picks acquired anyways. We need quality not quantity at this point.
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No, but the buying quality of a 2nd in a weak draft vs a stronger draft is higher, too. Pushing a 2nd round pick gives you more time to use it as a trading asset.
 
WeThreeKings said:
No, but the buying quality of a 2nd in a weak draft vs a stronger draft is higher, too. Pushing a 2nd round pick gives you more time to use it as a trading asset.
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The time gained to deal the pick by having it pushed back is definitely a good point. I do think Hughes will want to wheel and deal it before the 2025 draft but let's see.
 
Gravity said:
The time gained to deal the pick by having it pushed back is definitely a good point. I do think Hughes will want to wheel and deal it before the 2025 draft but let's see.
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I think so too but if the right player isn't available, then you'd certainly like to have that bullet in your gun for later rather than maybe getting stuck picking 3 players in the 2nd round that typically would go round 3.
 
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Scriptor said:
Habs could make a hockey trade where they trade Evans -- and Armia, maybe - plus a prospect and a draft pick for a solution either at C (for the 2C position long term) or at D (for the top-4 RHD that is missing).
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The problem with that package, is that it does not fill the need of the other team.

Evans and Armia are loaners, potentially expensive to resign. Anyone interested are likely buyers in a playoff spot. In that case, they would not let go of an impact 2C or top-4 RHD. Adding prospects/draft picks also does not really bring anything to a contender at the trade deadline.

And if you turn it around, I don't see a team rebuilding giving anything to acquire Evans or Armia...
 
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