HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

McGroaty vs Mailloux


Which team says yes or no?

It makes sense, but to be honest, the Habs need both and that's why I kind of hope they stop trading their extra first to speed up the rebuild/retool.

You want a solid prospect pool to be able to potentially land a fairly good player that becomes available, or be able to trade a decent roster player + and have a prospect fill in up front.

 

[Scotianhab]

Pick 26, Barron & Kidney for McGroarty.
Obvious only if McG is willling to sign here.

 

[Egresch]

McGroaty vs Mailloux


Which team says yes or no?

We discussed earlier and MTL says no. Big physical RHD is just too valuable. Rutger McG is primarly a power winger with some skating issue. He is a top 6 talent, that is clear.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I don't think he'd cost too much honestly. I don't see a bidding war either - he's already got his issues and comes with a high cap hit.

I hope Habs are at least interested

Contract would likely have to go the other way. They already had Anderson so probably has to be Dvorak.

Then you wonder what else? Is the Jets 1st too much? Or do we go with Mesar or one of our D? Barron?

 

[BaseballCoach]

Pick 26, Barron & Kidney for McGroarty.

Pick 26 + Xhekaj or Struble for p;ick 9-12ish

Savard or Barron, plus Mesar, for McGroarty

 

[Habs Halifax]

We discussed earlier and MTL says no. Big physical RHD is just too valuable. Rutger McG is primarly a power winger with some skating issue. He is a top 6 talent, that is clear.

Better approach is Jets 1st and Barron. They get a close to ready NHL D who has that size/skating/shot package and is a RD which is rare to get. Then they get their 1st back to try to hit with. Decent talent at the back of the bus in this draft.

 

[Jaynki]

McGroaty vs Mailloux


Which team says yes or no?

Fair in value.

WPG says yes ***because*** McGroarty wants out.

Not sure if its good for us as it creates an immediate and important hole at RD.

I think the best path to acquire Rutger would be via an overpay in draft picks.

26OV + one of our 1st next year + a 2nd RD pick + another if needed.

 

[Andy]

I mean, I really wouldnt be opposed at all to finding a way to swap 5OA and some assets for 4OA and Laine. I think that would be incredibly shrewd.

Getting 4OA almost assures one of Demidov or Lindstrom. Laine is a bonafide top 6 player, warts and all. Silly to think otherwise. He's only turning 27 in April. He's a scorer, he's got a good build.

His maturity may be lacking, but some people mature later.

 

[1000eeer]

Fair in value.

WPG says yes ***because*** McGroarty wants out.

Not sure if its good for us as it creates an immediate and important hole at RD.

I think the best path to acquire Rutger would be via an overpay in draft picks.

26OV + one of our 1st next year + a 2nd RD pick + another if needed.

Why would WPG be interested in receiving so much picks...

They want to improve the team here and now.

Matheson is the guy we should offer for Mcgroarty + WPG'S second round pick acquired from MTL.

We then package pick #26 and pick #37 to move up the board.

 

[Deebs]

Fair in value.

WPG says yes ***because*** McGroarty wants out.

Not sure if its good for us as it creates an immediate and important hole at RD.

I think the best path to acquire Rutger would be via an overpay in draft picks.

26OV + one of our 1st next year + a 2nd RD pick + another if needed.

The kid isn't worth all of that. Definite overpay

 

[Jaynki]

The kid isn't worth all of that. Definite overpay

Exactly. We are in a position to do this.

McGroarty might not be the ideal target for this tho.

 

[Deebs]

Exactly. We are in a position to do this.

McGroarty might not be the ideal target for this tho.

2 firsts and a second is not the right approach for me, that's overkill. I like McGroaty for sure, just not that much.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Check this out

MTL : #5
for
CGY : #9 + #28

Then

MTL : #9
for
WPG : McGroaty + #37

Then

MTL : #26 + #28 + Struble
for
STL : #16

Draft : #16 : Helenius
Draft #37 : Surin
McGroaty

or

Draft : #5 Lindstrom
Draft : #26 Beaudoin

Horrible for us

 

[417]

I mean, I really wouldnt be opposed at all to finding a way to swap 5OA and some assets for 4OA and Laine. I think that would be incredibly shrewd.

Getting 4OA almost assures one of Demidov or Lindstrom. Laine is a bonafide top 6 player, warts and all. Silly to think otherwise. He's only turning 27 in April. He's a scorer, he's got a good build.

His maturity may be lacking, but some people mature later.

Been saying this for a few days...it makes a lot of sense and the type of move I've come to expect from Hughes.

I think it makes a ton of sense for both teams, assuming they don't both want the same player @ #4

 

[Jaynki]

2 firsts and a second is not the right approach for me, that's overkill. I like McGroaty for sure, just not that much.

I agree. Its too much in a vacuum.

I think McGroarty would bring a lot to the table in our roster tho.

If we can somewhat draft Demidov at 5 and acquire McGroarty without giving important roster player/prospect, so overpaying in picks, i think we would be set-up and ready to take the next stage in our rebuild. We would have strong F and D core with Suzuki being the oldest at F.

At some point, we will have to pay for a missing pieces to bring the thing to the next level, McGroarty probably not that piece tho.

 

[26Mats]

I mean, I really wouldnt be opposed at all to finding a way to swap 5OA and some assets for 4OA and Laine. I think that would be incredibly shrewd.

Getting 4OA almost assures one of Demidov or Lindstrom. Laine is a bonafide top 6 player, warts and all. Silly to think otherwise. He's only turning 27 in April. He's a scorer, he's got a good build.

His maturity may be lacking, but some people mature later.

I think when Columbus trades Laine, they will do so for a better deal than that.

 

[417]

I think when Columbus trades Laine, they will do so for a better deal than that.

Depends what Columbus' main motivation is...if it's to trade Laine like he has the same value as he had 3-4 years ago, good luck with that.

If they just want to get his contract off the books, then it's very doable from both sides.

 

[Saundies]

Elliotte Friedman: "It's going to be an insane week this week.. so many trades, you won't see some of them coming!!"

NHL midweek leading up to Draft: *crickets*

NBA in weird, random offweek: 5 unprotected first rounders traded for an above average player.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Elliotte Friedman: "It's going to be an insane week this week.. so many trades, you won't see some of them coming!!"

NHL midweek leading up to Draft: *crickets*

NBA in weird, random offweek: 5 unprotected first rounders traded for an above average player.

NBA draft is tonight.

 

[Takeru]

Just curious, apart from the fact he's on the block, what makes McGroarty such an appealing option? I haven't watched him, what style does he play?

 

[schwang26]

I can see Guhle getting moved. I know it sounds crazy, but they can’t afford to lose Matheson yet. They can’t replace his minutes or points. I love Guhle, but you have to give up quality to get a top 6

 

[gusfring]

I can see Guhle getting moved. I know it sounds crazy, but they can’t afford to lose Matheson yet. They can’t replace his minutes or points. I love Guhle, but you have to give up quality to get a top 6

I mentioned this a few weeks ago. You aren't getting a good top six player for Barron/Kidney +. Won't happen.

 

[Hacketts]

I can see Guhle getting moved. I know it sounds crazy, but they can’t afford to lose Matheson yet. They can’t replace his minutes or points. I love Guhle, but you have to give up quality to get a top 6

you trade a heart & soul player that's on the verge of taking the next step is a dangerous game you shouldn't probably play.

 

[SwiftyHab]

trade someone

draft somneone

waive someone

Do something!!

 

[Kosseca]

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