HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

[Spring in Fialta]

I think they are trying to build a cup contending team here not a scrape into the playoffs team. It looks that way to me anyways. I'll take that over, "we made the playoffs" and out for 10 yrs.

You don't go from basement to contender overnight. Progress should be made gradually and continuously and after 3 years at the bottom, I think the organization should be actively working to ensure that they're not out of the picture by game 25. I swear, too many posters here have like two or three talking points and seem unable to hold multiple ideas at once.

I've been hit with that same strawman all day.

 

[CHwest]

You don't go from basement to contender overnight. Progress should be made gradually and continuously and after 3 years at the bottom, I think the organization should be actively working to ensure that they're not out of the picture by game 25. I swear, too many posters here have like two or three talking points and seem unable to hold multiple ideas at once.

I've been hit with that same strawman all day.

Patience grasshopper.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Seems pretty obvious they're looking for this years Dach/Newhook type deal.

 

[therocket9]

Wonder if the Panthers will be interested in Savard they lost Montour and OEL.

 

[Guy Larose]

You don't go from basement to contender overnight. Progress should be made gradually and continuously and after 3 years at the bottom, I think the organization should be actively working to ensure that they're not out of the picture by game 25. I swear, too many posters here have like two or three talking points and seem unable to hold multiple ideas at once.

I've been hit with that same strawman all day.

Not to discourage you, but it's been a top 10 pick 5 times in the past 8 years (since 2016)

 

[absolute garbage]

They will not have to trade Guhle, that is utter nonsense.....or absolute garbage if you dare

We have drafted and traded for a core that has championship potential written all over it. There is no need to make a big move. We just need to switch redundant complimentary/peripheral assets for assets of similar value that fill positional needs in the organization or picks that we can accrue to potentially trade for specific needs or draft for them.

All I said was that they will have to trade Guhle IF they want to make a big move using the surplus they have on D. Of course they can opt to not do that, and instead just swap guys like Harris or Barron for equivalent middling players like for example Tomasino. But you are not going to acquire another difference maker upfront by doing that (if that's even needed, which you can have a debate about).

It kind of reminds me of when Vancouver Canucks had Schneider and Luongo (surplus on net). Schneider was the goalie of the future and Luongo was aging and had a rough contract. Everybody thought they would just dump Luongo somewhere, but out of blue they shocked everyone and decided to trade Schneider instead for a quality asset (high pick that became Horvat).

 

[Hannibal]

Seems pretty obvious they're looking for this years Dach/Newhook type deal.

I got one better.

McGroarty.

He fits what we need big time to round up our top 6. If we are not willing to break our « assets bank » for him we wont do it for anybody.

 

[therocket9]

Nashville has 11,805,000 of money on the books by retained salary or buyouts gotta be the most in the league.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Nashville has 11,805,000 of money on the books by retained salary or buyouts gotta be the most in the league.

And they're still going to have a highly competitive team with what will probably an absurdly solid locker-room. Stamkos, Marchessault, Josi, Forsberg, O'Reilly...they're old as hell but that is fierce.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Laine would fit the teams strategy well. We got cap space to use before Dach and others need raises. 2 year term on Laine fits. Could be a playoff team in year two and keep Laine or flip him for more GM futures. Helps our PP. Get er done

He is a world class bum and a poor teammate....exactly what Hughes does not want.

Maybe if Hughes has inside information that Laine has really turned it around but until then I don't think he is an option at all.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Nashville has 11,805,000 of money on the books by retained salary or buyouts gotta be the most in the league.

Check out Minnesota.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Sounds like Shane Pinto might be asking for a trade. He'd be a strong candidate for another Dach/Newhook type move for us IMO.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Sounds like Shane Pinto might be asking for a trade. He'd be a strong candidate for another Dach/Newhook type move for us IMO.

Yes please.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Sounds like Shane Pinto might be asking for a trade. He'd be a strong candidate for another Dach/Newhook type move for us IMO.

I like Pinto but I have serious doubts that Ottawa would deal him to us and even if they considered it I suspect they would ask for a ridiculous return that Hughes would say no to.

 

[therocket9]

Check out Minnesota.

Oh yes the Suter and Parise buyouts.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I like Pinto but I have serious doubts that Ottawa would deal him to us and even if they considered it I suspect they would ask for a ridiculous return that Hughes would say no to.

The sens have made a few inside the division trade before, it might still be possible. They're going to look for a good return though, that much is for sure. Probably a hockey trade too, they won't go only for picks and prospects.

 

[Benstheman]

Whatever if it’s Pinto or McGroupie, Habs will need to part with one of Mailloux or Xhekaj.

 

[CAUFIELD]

Whatever if it’s Pinto or McGroupie, Habs will need to part with one of Mailloux or Xhekaj.

We will part with Harris or Struble before those 2 hopefully

 

[Habs13]

Whatever if it’s Pinto or McGroupie, Habs will need to part with one of Mailloux or Xhekaj.

Nope!

 

[Michelangelo]

We will part with Harris or Struble before those 2 hopefully

And how high exactly do you think Harris and Struble are valued by other teams?

 

[dinodebino]

You don't go from basement to contender overnight. Progress should be made gradually and continuously and after 3 years at the bottom, I think the organization should be actively working to ensure that they're not out of the picture by game 25. I swear, too many posters here have like two or three talking points and seem unable to hold multiple ideas at once.

I've been hit with that same strawman all day.

You don’t think we progresed last year?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Honestly,

Do we need to make a trade for anything right now? Packed with incoming prospects… we look good across the board. I think all we really need to do is give ice to the kids and evaluate from there.

 

[bleuetbio]

Not nearly enough physicality for the Senators who rely too much on Brady Tkachuk to do hitting. David Perron will help but surely, they would take someone ala Xhekaj. I would consider Xhekaj vs Pinto for sure. With 1.6M cap left, its gonna for them to manage

 

[General Fanager]

Whatever if it’s Pinto or McGroupie, Habs will need to part with one of Mailloux or Xhekaj.

Trading Mailloux is a terrible idea and trading Xhekej within the division is an even worse one....

 

[BaseballCoach]

I was thinking something like Barron for Tomasino or Pärssinen.

If you start including Askarov, the value goes a lot higher.

I think the big decision Montreal needs to make is that if they actually want to make a big move using the surplus they have on D, they'll probably have to trade Guhle. The other guys simply don't have much value. Well Matheson could in some situations, but he's a vet so it's a little different.

Like you could get Tomasino for Barron or Harris or whatever, but if we're talking about guys like Necas, Zegras, or some kind of Askarov+ package, Guhle would surely be the guy going the other way. Not saying it's the right move, but it's the only move if you want to pull off a trade like that.

What about a hockey trade package (no picks) of Xhekaj, Mesar and Farrell for Necas?