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Proposal: Trade proposal : Isles and Winnipeg

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StewPete

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Trade Proposal
  • To Winnipeg: Brock Nelson ($3M cap hit, 50% retained), Kyle Palmieri ($2.5M cap hit, 50% retained)
  • To NY Islanders: Brad Lambert, Colby Barlow, 2025 first-round pick
Why It Works
For the Jets, Nelson slots in as a 2C upgrade, potentially forming a lethal line with Vilardi and Perfetti, while Palmieri adds versatility and playoff tenacity—think a line with Ehlers and Namestnikov. Their top-nine depth becomes a nightmare for opponents, and the $5.5 million cap hit preserves flexibility. For the Islanders, Lambert and Barlow offer high-ceiling forward prospects (one near NHL-ready, one developing), and the first-rounder replenishes draft capital. It’s a haul comparable to the Bo Horvat trade (a first-rounder, Anthony Beauvillier, and Aatu Raty), adjusted for Palmieri’s inclusion and retention.
trade list, though Winnipeg’s competitiveness might appeal. If the Jets push for a cheaper deal, the Isles could swap Barlow for a lesser prospect like Rutger McGroarty, but the 50% retention justifies a premium return.
This trade would kickstart a youth movement for the Islanders while giving the Jets a legitimate shot at the Cup—two birds, one well-crafted stone.

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Winnipeg would atleast like you to use lube first and I’m an Islanders fan. Remove Lambert and add in a mid round pick if we’re really trying to make a deal happen. Even then, I can’t see Winnipeg being interested in both. Barlow and a 1st for Brock has been discussed though.
 
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StewPete said:
Trade Proposal
  • To Winnipeg: Brock Nelson ($3M cap hit, 50% retained), Kyle Palmieri ($2.5M cap hit, 50% retained)
  • To NY Islanders: Brad Lambert, Colby Barlow, 2025 first-round pick
Why It Works
For the Jets, Nelson slots in as a 2C upgrade, potentially forming a lethal line with Vilardi and Perfetti, while Palmieri adds versatility and playoff tenacity—think a line with Ehlers and Namestnikov. Their top-nine depth becomes a nightmare for opponents, and the $5.5 million cap hit preserves flexibility. For the Islanders, Lambert and Barlow offer high-ceiling forward prospects (one near NHL-ready, one developing), and the first-rounder replenishes draft capital. It’s a haul comparable to the Bo Horvat trade (a first-rounder, Anthony Beauvillier, and Aatu Raty), adjusted for Palmieri’s inclusion and retention.
trade list, though Winnipeg’s competitiveness might appeal. If the Jets push for a cheaper deal, the Isles could swap Barlow for a lesser prospect like Rutger McGroarty, but the 50% retention justifies a premium return.
This trade would kickstart a youth movement for the Islanders while giving the Jets a legitimate shot at the Cup—two birds, one well-crafted stone.

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I was like Brock Nelson okay a C.

Depth forward Kyle Palmieri sounds good.

I was like okay a 1st is reasonable.
Then I saw 2 names I assumed prospects.

You didn't just ask for 1 but both of there top 2 prospects.

Id put Lous number on ignore after this offer.
 
Although this proposal is obviously too much, I think the Jets will end up with Nelson somehow as it seems like a guy they'd want.
 
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So, out of the top 100 drafted NHL prospects based on Wheeler’s latest (and most comprehensive) list:
  • Rutger McGroarty: 36th
  • Brad Lambert: 39th
  • Colby Barlow: 53rd

Lambert seems like a lock for the NHL . He is middle six winger most likely. Barlow is good, less of a lock.

How many times are you in a position to win a cup?

Prospects are nice. Will the best goalie in the world still be the best when these prospects are ready to contribute?

Lou will probably get a 1st and decent prospect for Nelson. He probably gets a second for Palmeri. Both without retention.

How many teams, with top prospects, have recently won the cup?
 
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StewPete said:
So, out of the top 100 drafted NHL prospects based on Wheeler’s latest (and most comprehensive) list:
  • Rutger McGroarty: 36th
  • Brad Lambert: 39th
  • Colby Barlow: 53rd

Lambert seems like a lock for the NHL . He is middle six winger most likely. Barlow is good, less of a lock.

How many times are you in a position to win a cup?

Prospects are nice. Will the best goalie in the world still be the best when these prospects are ready to contribute?

Lou will probably get a 1st and decent prospect for Nelson. He probably gets a second for Palmeri. Both without retention.

How many teams, with top prospects, have recently won the cup?
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you left out that we could still go after nelson but without the extreme overpay... like nobody is saying the jets couldn't use nelson...
 
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gojetsgo said:
you left out that we could still go after nelson but without the extreme overpay... like nobody is saying the jets couldn't use nelson...
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Okay , so what would you offer for Nelson. Keep in mind your 1st round pick will be a late pick.
 
miscs75 said:
Winnipeg would atleast like you to use lube first and I’m an Islanders fan. Remove Lambert and add in a mid round pick if we’re really trying to make a deal happen. Even then, I can’t see Winnipeg being interested in both. Barlow and a 1st for Brock has been discussed though.
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Misc you are certaintly entitled to your opinion but what do you think Lou will get for Nelson and Palmeri separately with and without retention?
 
StewPete said:
So, out of the top 100 drafted NHL prospects based on Wheeler’s latest (and most comprehensive) list:
  • Rutger McGroarty: 36th
  • Brad Lambert: 39th
  • Colby Barlow: 53rd

Lambert seems like a lock for the NHL . He is middle six winger most likely. Barlow is good, less of a lock.

How many times are you in a position to win a cup?

Prospects are nice. Will the best goalie in the world still be the best when these prospects are ready to contribute?

Lou will probably get a 1st and decent prospect for Nelson. He probably gets a second for Palmeri. Both without retention.

How many teams, with top prospects, have recently won the cup?
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I'd be impressed if Pittsburg let Winnipeg trade Rutger McGroarty a second time, especially off another club's roster this go-round.

But Dubas does have an outside the box style so might as well ask.
 
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StewPete said:
Trade Proposal
  • To Winnipeg: Brock Nelson ($3M cap hit, 50% retained), Kyle Palmieri ($2.5M cap hit, 50% retained)
  • To NY Islanders: Brad Lambert, Colby Barlow, 2025 first-round pick
Why It Works
For the Jets, Nelson slots in as a 2C upgrade, potentially forming a lethal line with Vilardi and Perfetti, while Palmieri adds versatility and playoff tenacity—think a line with Ehlers and Namestnikov. Their top-nine depth becomes a nightmare for opponents, and the $5.5 million cap hit preserves flexibility. For the Islanders, Lambert and Barlow offer high-ceiling forward prospects (one near NHL-ready, one developing), and the first-rounder replenishes draft capital. It’s a haul comparable to the Bo Horvat trade (a first-rounder, Anthony Beauvillier, and Aatu Raty), adjusted for Palmieri’s inclusion and retention.
trade list, though Winnipeg’s competitiveness might appeal. If the Jets push for a cheaper deal, the Isles could swap Barlow for a lesser prospect like Rutger McGroarty, but the 50% retention justifies a premium return.
This trade would kickstart a youth movement for the Islanders while giving the Jets a legitimate shot at the Cup—two birds, one well-crafted stone.

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Put the pipe down.
 
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StewPete said:
Misc you are certaintly entitled to your opinion but what do you think Lou will get for Nelson and Palmeri separately with and without retention?
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1st and a prospect for Brock, if its with retention a better quality prospect as a star. Palm's (if he want's to go anywhere that isn't NJ) a 2nd or 3rd and some type of filler (possibly a mediocre prospect if its with retention) if the team needs to move a body due to the roster restrictions. No cap dumps in return unless returning cap dump is an expiring contract in July. Brock I think has been playing stressed out due to all the rumors and Palmieri seems to be in a slump again but manages to break out of it usually later in the year.

McJedi said:
I'd be impressed if Pittsburg let Winnipeg trade Rutger McGroarty a second time, especially off another club's roster this go-round.

But Dubas does have an outside the box style so might as well ask.
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Just offer Dubas a former Greyhound and he'll say yes.
 
StewPete said:
So, out of the top 100 drafted NHL prospects based on Wheeler’s latest (and most comprehensive) list:
  • Rutger McGroarty: 36th
  • Brad Lambert: 39th
  • Colby Barlow: 53rd

Lambert seems like a lock for the NHL . He is middle six winger most likely. Barlow is good, less of a lock.

How many times are you in a position to win a cup?

Prospects are nice. Will the best goalie in the world still be the best when these prospects are ready to contribute?

Lou will probably get a 1st and decent prospect for Nelson. He probably gets a second for Palmeri. Both without retention.

How many teams, with top prospects, have recently won the cup?
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How many teams have recently traded a 1st + good prospect for a pending UFA and won the Cup that year?
 
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