GDT: Trade Deadline Day

[Johnny 5]

Sometimes getting whatever you can really is worse than losing a player for nothing, and I think this is one of those times.

If you're Ken Holland, it would have been better to let him play out the year than to say this loudly and this clearly to other general managers that, if you just wait long enough, I'm happy to take whatever ******* you're offering.

My goodness. Even a second would have been OK, but they have to take back a useless player too. And they retain salary! Which is immaterial but for the principle of it, given the situation, but Christ.

 

[gretskidoo]

I also imagine that the DRW scouting staff think McIlrath has more value than "Nothing". I bet they choose this deal OVER a 2nd round pick.

That scenario would make it so much worse.

 

[Frk It]

Kid is super talented, wouldn't mind picking him up if the price was decent.

 

[BinCookin]

George Malik‏ @georgemalik 3m3 minutes ago

George Malik Retweeted Mike Foss

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George Malik added,
Mike Foss @MikeFossWXYZ
.@JSportsnet's full comments: "They're done for the day. There'll be no more trades out of DET this afternoon. No Sheahan, no Glendening."

 

[SoupNazi]

George Malik‏ @georgemalik 3m3 minutes ago

George Malik Retweeted Mike Foss

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George Malik added,
Mike Foss @MikeFossWXYZ
.@JSportsnet's full comments: "They're done for the day. There'll be no more trades out of DET this afternoon. No Sheahan, no Glendening."

Well damn.

Let's hope Babcock convinces Lamirello to call and offer up a 1st for Sheahan.

 

[TCNorthstars]

George Malik‏ @georgemalik 3m3 minutes ago

George Malik Retweeted Mike Foss

Via @BradGalli

George Malik added,
Mike Foss @MikeFossWXYZ
.@JSportsnet's full comments: "They're done for the day. There'll be no more trades out of DET this afternoon. No Sheahan, no Glendening."

Say it aint so George, say it aint so! Now I actually need to work.

 

[Hammettf2b]

George Malik‏ @georgemalik 3m3 minutes ago

George Malik Retweeted Mike Foss

Via @BradGalli

George Malik added,
Mike Foss @MikeFossWXYZ
.@JSportsnet's full comments: "They're done for the day. There'll be no more trades out of DET this afternoon. No Sheahan, no Glendening."

Meh. Was hoping Sheahan would be on the move.

 

[Vladdy84]

Come on

Babcock needs him some Stone Hands Luke

 

[Pavels Dog]

Meh. Was hoping Sheahan would be on the move.

I think I'd rather trade Sheahan when he actually scores a goal. His value is rock bottom right now. Change coach and hope he bounces back.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

Even when Wings fans get excited about selling we end up disappointed.

 

[Syckle78]

If only he was reliable enough to believe for a second I'd be excited.

 

[caseygraves]

On old timer jumping on here real quick to say one thing, I apologize if someone else already mentioned it...

But I am liking Hollands strategy of signing veterans that any team can use to one year deals and then trading them at the deadline for picks... It's almost like a rental, just for a longer part of the year. it's a great way to build picks I think...

I do agree that we need to get rid of these kids that dont want so score goals... but we all know Holland wouldnt do that...

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

On old timer jumping on here real quick to say one thing, I apologize if someone else already mentioned it...

But I am liking Hollands strategy of signing veterans that any team can use to one year deals and then trading them at the deadline for picks... It's almost like a rental, just for a longer part of the year. it's a great way to build picks I think...

I do agree that we need to get rid of these kids that dont want so score goals... but we all know Holland wouldnt do that...

Holland's approach to this deadline makes me think that he is expecting to be right back in the playoffs hunt next year. They aren't rebuilding yet. Seconds and thirds aren't going to rebuild a team and if you wait til next year to trade Green you are not getting a first.

Like I said, the next 3-5 years are going to be rough.

 

[Bench]

They aren't rebuilding yet.

He's going to try to retool and make the playoffs again, yeah.

I think if you're going this route, I hope he makes a move for youngish players that can have an impact immediately. Think Fowler or one of the young rumored centers available. Sure, you might have to give up a great player like AA, but if you're not going to completely gut the team and get high draft picks, at least try to upgrade your key positions at center and defense.

 

[Syckle78]

Holland's approach to this deadline makes me think that he is expecting to be right back in the playoffs hunt next year. They aren't rebuilding yet. Seconds and thirds aren't going to rebuild a team and if you wait til next year to trade Green you are not getting a first.

Like I said, the next 3-5 years are going to be rough.

He said last night they're going to try to turn it around in the off season. That's the exact opposite of what the plan should be. Just hoping he blunders his way into movable assets while still being a bottom 5 team.

 

[HIFE]

Kid is super talented, wouldn't mind picking him up if the price was decent.

The years I was going to OHL games Ho-Sang had the sickest moves I've ever seen. While McDavid makes subtle plays quickly at top speed JHS would pull out the most exaggerated reaching toe-drags. I've been waiting for his arrival ever since. If we could grab him or a Duclair I will never criticize Holland again.

 

[Probie]

He's going to try to retool and make the playoffs again, yeah.

I think if you're going this route, I hope he makes a move for youngish players that can have an impact immediately. Think Fowler or one of the young rumored centers available. Sure, you might have to give up a great player like AA, but if you're not going to completely gut the team and get high draft picks, at least try to upgrade your key positions at center and defense.

Dissapointing day, and yes he's looking to retool but he should look at the standings and realize a retool isn't going to get you to where you want to go. Time to strip the cupboard more, gotta atleast move green today as well. Oh well Kenny guided the ship we are here because of him.

 

[Bench]

Just hoping he blunders his way into movable assets while still being a bottom 5 team.

Unless there's some miracle acquisition for the blueline, this team is toast next year, too. Your blueline is probably the most important group in the NHL and the Wings are rolling out a real ugly group.

Compound that with the fact Mrazek isn't a franchise savior and I don't see how this team is anything more than "statistically not out" for most of the year.

 

[Syckle78]

Unless there's some miracle acquisition for the blueline, this team is toast next year, too. Your blueline is probably the most important group in the NHL and the Wings are rolling out a real ugly group.

Compound that with the fact Mrazek isn't a franchise savior and I don't see how this team is anything more than "statistically not out" for most of the year.

Yep,it's frightening looking at it and imagining what he sees to make the statement that they'll try to turn it around in one off season. There's nothing really available in free agency this year and we don't have cap space. I'm just hoping for a few vanek and ott type signings that are movable when he inevitably accepts we're out of it at the deadline.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

It's kind of surprising how low Vanek's value is. I guess a bad reputation will stick with you longer than just one good season.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

Unless there's some miracle acquisition for the blueline, this team is toast next year, too. Your blueline is probably the most important group in the NHL and the Wings are rolling out a real ugly group.

Compound that with the fact Mrazek isn't a franchise savior and I don't see how this team is anything more than "statistically not out" for most of the year.

Looking at what is available in the offseason, there are very few top-six forwards and no top-pair D hitting UFA. Holland keeps saying that he will just get players in the offseason, but top players don't hit the market anymore, and none of them want to come to a team in a bad city that is picking 5-8 every year.

 

[TheMule93]

Yesterday went well, today sucks assuming we're done

 

[hyduK]

Ugh, just listened to KH interview on TSN.

First few minutes he was saying all the right things, talking about getting picks and getting younger. Promise of the young guys etc.

Then he's asked what it'll feel like if they miss the playoffs and his first thing is "we'll have to make some moves in the summer" which is great...followed by "don't wanna miss two years in a row".

Can't wait for him to desperately try to cling on to mediocrity once again.

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

What is he supposed to say

"We expect to miss again the next few years before we're good again."

Even openly tanking teams give lip service about trying to make the playoffs.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

Ugh, just listened to KH interview on TSN.

First few minutes he was saying all the right things, talking about getting picks and getting younger. Promise of the young guys etc.

Then he's asked what it'll feel like if they miss the playoffs and his first thing is "we'll have to make some moves in the summer" which is great...followed by "don't wanna miss two years in a row".

Can't wait for him to desperately try to cling on to mediocrity once again.

To be fair, he can't come out and say"Doesn't matter what we do this year since we're going to miss again next year."

The Wings are never going to tank. Fortunately the UFA pool this year is so weak they will almost certainly not be able to improve and will be just as weak next year.