Trade Deadline 2015

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Uncle Lou

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I have been thinking about the deadline recently and I know it's months away but do you guys think that if the team keeps up Snow adds another piece or two to make a legit run? I have a weird feeling with all we have seen this offseason, that snow will make another serious move, I'm thinking Keith Yandle type move. What do you guys think?
 

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I have been thinking about the deadline recently and I know it's months away but do you guys think that if the team keeps up Snow adds another piece or two to make a legit run? I have a weird feeling with all we have seen this offseason, that snow will make another serious move, I'm thinking Keith Yandle type move. What do you guys think?

Yandle probably costs too much. Im not sure how you acquire him without significantly altering the face of the current team. Overpay with prospects+picks?
 

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I am not sure this is the year yet to give up semi-important pieces to make an upgrade. I lean more to give the core some experience, plus we don't really have the assets (picks) to make trades, so we would either wind up trading very good prospects to get overpriced rentals. I mean, if a good deal is to be made than go for it, but not at all costs.
 

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If their special teams do not improve I don't make a big move...thats a very decisive factor as to whether or not you can go deep in the playoffs. right now they won't even win a round with their PP and PK, especially if they happened to face the Caps or Pens. If they got lucky and drew the Rags i can see them being able to win that series with a lousy PK since it seems that team can just never get their PP in sorts. But if I'm sitting their in early March, unless I see a guy I feel may really turn one of my special team units around I'm not making a big move this year, I try in the offseason.
 

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I have been thinking about the deadline recently and I know it's months away but do you guys think that if the team keeps up Snow adds another piece or two to make a legit run? I have a weird feeling with all we have seen this offseason, that snow will make another serious move, I'm thinking Keith Yandle type move. What do you guys think?

I like Yandle but i do not think he is the type of guy you add at the dead line.
 

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I am not sure this is the year yet to give up semi-important pieces to make an upgrade. I lean more to give the core some experience, plus we don't really have the assets (picks) to make trades, so we would either wind up trading very good prospects to get overpriced rentals. I mean, if a good deal is to be made than go for it, but not at all costs.

I am not sure what we should do. Yes if a deal is there that you can not pass up clearly you take it. However i do not think we are built to go deep into the playoffs. Our Special teams are pretty poor and i do not think a single move fixes that.
 

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I have been thinking about the deadline recently and I know it's months away but do you guys think that if the team keeps up Snow adds another piece or two to make a legit run? I have a weird feeling with all we have seen this offseason, that snow will make another serious move, I'm thinking Keith Yandle type move. What do you guys think?

If we do anything it has to be to address our face-off percentage. A Vernon Fiddler, Malholtra, Boyd Gordon or similar type. It is our true Achilles Heel.
 

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If we do anything it has to be to address our face-off percentage. A Vernon Fiddler, Malholtra, Boyd Gordon or similar type. It is our true Achilles Heel.

Our face off % could def use a boost.
 

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With the amped intensity of the playoffs, there's more opportunity to take penalties, and every game is a "must win", so there's more urgency on all aspects of the game, including special teams.

- 16th ranked Power Play
- 30th ranked Penalty Kill
- Could equal quick death in the playoffs.

This is an issue that they'll certainly have to address by the deadline, whether they solve it in-house or without side assets, they really need to fix it.

They don't necessarily need to break the bank to obtain an answer. They have prospects and future draft picks they can use to bring back some helpful assets.

The likes of Matt Donovan, Scott Mayfield, Aaron Ness, and higher 2016 draft picks can be used to acquire desirable assets. Or Michael Grabner can find a way to stay healthy for the duration of the season.

As for movement, I'd look at non-bank breaking answers for special teams. I think cherries can be picked from the Edmonton Oilers [Mark Fayne, David Perron]. Maybe some cherries can be picked from the Coyotes. I haven't watched a lot of hockey outside of the Islanders, but Lauri Korpikoski used to be a good penalty killer. Martin Hanzal, if they can get him without severely overpaying, would be a nice fetch, too. On the Power Play, I've heard Jarome Iginla's name come up as a possible movable piece for Colorado.

But when considering our A-list prospects: Griffin Reinhart, Ryan Pulock, Michael Dal Colle, and Josh Ho-Sang; we can move our next tier prospects, draft picks, and scratched roster players for some immediate help.

Still, despite some improved play, Josh Bailey is our most movable roster player. If we have to make room, he has to be the one to go.

You really want Cal Clutterbuck and Matt Martin for playoff time.
 

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We need to get better at faceoffs and PK, our PP runs hot and cold, that should hopefully switch on in the playoffs, but PK has been sour all year long.

We need a Sillenger type player, terrific face off man that can play on both special teams. Patrick Sharp might be that guy, not sure of his faceoff numbers but he will be traded and he plays both LW and C, would be terrific as Tavares winger.
 

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If we do anything it has to be to address our face-off percentage. A Vernon Fiddler, Malholtra, Boyd Gordon or similar type. It is our true Achilles Heel.

This. We don't need a big, flashy trade where we sacrifice top assets for someone like Yandle.

Play it smart, bring in a few guys who can help the team for 3rd/4th/5th round picks. Some players who were traded at, or slightly before, last year's deadline for mid-round picks (some guys returned 3rd + 5th) include:

- Stempniak
- Nick Schultz
- Hemsky
- Goc
- Meszaros
- Robidas
- Fasth
- Penner
- Bryzgalov

Not a bad haul considering not a single person on that list required a 2nd to acquire.
 

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If Johnson doesn't pick up his play, then backup goalie is the #1 need to address one way or the other.
 

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if im garth.. i have a hawk eye on nick foligno right now..pending ufa that is a left wing who is just killing it right now. put him on with jt and strome and watch other teams fold

Player you also have to consider trying to acquire:

-Jagr(playoff experience, lockeroom presence)
-a capable backup goalie, id prefer Fasth(pending ufa)
 
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Come deadline, I'm sure Garth will have his eyes open, and I for one think we should only make a move that makes sense, the right piece at the right price, without jeopardizing our future. If going for a big piece, we are in no position to sacrifice our future for a 2-3 month loaner, it will set us back going forward.

Our needs in order of priority as I see it are a Backup goalie, a solid #4 defensemen which will also improve our defensive depth, and a LW for the top line. The last need is a bit tricky in that we already have that first line LW in our system with Dal Colle, but he is about 2 years away from joining the club.

In regards to addressing our special teams, There is no reason for either to be as bad as they are with the personnel we have, and I feel most of that falls on coaching, system, and practice. With our PK, the oppositions point players have way too much time and space, we have difficulties clearing the zone when we can, and we get caught out of position on occasion (the latter has improved with the return of Boychuck and Hammer). Our PP gets to cute, too much standing around waiting for something to happen, not enough skating to draw defenders out of position, to slow, predictable, and methodical, get Boychuk's bombs back on the PP1 point,.............All of that can, and should be addressed being we now have some time between games.

Instead of a big name piece, I think we can acquire a backup goalie, faceoff specialist, or someone to improve our PK for much cheaper. We have the likes of Conacher, Strait, and even Johnson to waive and make room if need be, but again, it all comes down to what, if anything, are we giving up, and in my view, we are limited in that regard.
 

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if im garth.. i have a hawk eye on nick foligno right now..pending ufa that is a left wing who is just killing it right now. put him on with jt and strome and watch other teams fold

Player you also have to consider trying to acquire:

-Jagr(playoff experience, lockeroom presence)
-a capable backup goalie, id prefer Fasth(pending ufa)

I don't see Columbus trading him and I think a deal gets done with Foligno.

Jagr doesn't want to be a rental, there are comments from Lou on that.
 

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Come deadline, I'm sure Garth will have his eyes open, and I for one think we should only make a move that makes sense, the right piece at the right price, without jeopardizing our future. If going for a big piece, we are in no position to sacrifice our future for a 2-3 month loaner, it will set us back going forward.

Our needs in order of priority as I see it are a Backup goalie, a solid #4 defensemen which will also improve our defensive depth, and a LW for the top line. The last need is a bit tricky in that we already have that first line LW in our system with Dal Colle, but he is about 2 years away from joining the club.

In regards to addressing our special teams, There is no reason for either to be as bad as they are with the personnel we have, and I feel most of that falls on coaching, system, and practice. With our PK, the oppositions point players have way too much time and space, we have difficulties clearing the zone when we can, and we get caught out of position on occasion (the latter has improved with the return of Boychuck and Hammer). Our PP gets to cute, too much standing around waiting for something to happen, not enough skating to draw defenders out of position, to slow, predictable, and methodical, get Boychuk's bombs back on the PP1 point,.............All of that can, and should be addressed being we now have some time between games.

Instead of a big name piece, I think we can acquire a backup goalie, faceoff specialist, or someone to improve our PK for much cheaper. We have the likes of Conacher, Strait, and even Johnson to waive and make room if need be, but again, it all comes down to what, if anything, are we giving up, and in my view, we are limited in that regard.

I agree. I expect the Isles to add some depth/role players.
 

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I don't see Columbus trading him and I think a deal gets done with Foligno.

Jagr doesn't want to be a rental, there are comments from Lou on that.

If lumbus has no shot at playoffs by that time i can see them dishing him out for some futures.

And yea i heard that about Jagr but who knows.... devils arent going anywhere. Does Jagr really want to retire in NJ? Jerseys prospect pool is horrible and he is one of the only guys that are worth something they they wouldnt mind letting go of. I have a feelign Jagr could be talked into being shipped out
 

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if im garth.. i have a hawk eye on nick foligno right now..pending ufa that is a left wing who is just killing it right now. put him on with jt and strome and watch other teams fold

Player you also have to consider trying to acquire:

-Jagr(playoff experience, lockeroom presence)
-a capable backup goalie, id prefer Fasth(pending ufa)

Yup, Foligno is my choice. The BJ's are trying to re-up him but he is asking for better than $5MM per. Right now, he has 16-14-30 and is a big body, rugged player like his old man was. Would look good on JT's LW, but only as a rental. Depends on the cost, maybe few middle prospects like Sundstrom (who I like and want to keep).

We could also use a face off specialist but have no place for him to play.
 

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If lumbus has no shot at playoffs by that time i can see them dishing him out for some futures.

And yea i heard that about Jagr but who knows.... devils arent going anywhere. Does Jagr really want to retire in NJ? Jerseys prospect pool is horrible and he is one of the only guys that are worth something they they wouldnt mind letting go of. I have a feelign Jagr could be talked into being shipped out

If you want a laugh look at some of the trade requests devil fans are asking for jagr.
 

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The Isles don't have any trade assets that can get help at the deadline, unfortunately. We don't have a second rounder until 2017. I sure hope we are not going to trade another first, and the best kids are all off limits.


The likes of Mayfield and a 3rd rounder is not going to bring anything significant.

Besides, I'd say our biggest problems are either do to coaching (PK) or potentially curable from within (sub Poulin for the Chad).


the lousy faceoff % is a big problem though and I'm not sure there is an easy cure. It would be nice to have a faceoff stud, but you still have to deal with constant faceoff losses from your top nine forwards.


Part of the solution may be moving Grabo back to center.
 

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We need to get better at faceoffs and PK, our PP runs hot and cold, that should hopefully switch on in the playoffs, but PK has been sour all year long.

We need a Sillenger type player, terrific face off man that can play on both special teams. Patrick Sharp might be that guy, not sure of his faceoff numbers but he will be traded and he plays both LW and C, would be terrific as Tavares winger.

I'm not so sure Sharp is going to be traded. Why do you think he will? Money?
 

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The Isles don't have any trade assets that can get help at the deadline, unfortunately. We don't have a second rounder until 2017. I sure hope we are not going to trade another first, and the best kids are all off limits.


The likes of Mayfield and a 3rd rounder is not going to bring anything significant.

Besides, I'd say our biggest problems are either do to coaching (PK) or potentially curable from within (sub Poulin for the Chad).


the lousy faceoff % is a big problem though and I'm not sure there is an easy cure. It would be nice to have a faceoff stud, but you still have to deal with constant faceoff losses from your top nine forwards.


Part of the solution may be moving Grabo back to center.

I agree with moving Grabovski back to Center OR at least having him take faceoffs then move back to the winger role after the face off.

The likes of Mayfield, Ness, 3rd Rounders, etc. could bring back a pending UFA from a team looking to maybe rid some salary for the final quarter of the season and roll the dice on some potentially marginal talent.
 
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