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TRADE BAIT

  • Beck

    Votes: 18 51.4%

  • Hage

    Votes: 7 20.0%

  • Kapanen

    Votes: 29 82.9%

  • Heinemen

    Votes: 13 37.1%

  • Reinbacher

    Votes: 7 20.0%

  • Demidov

    Votes: 2 5.7%

  • Mailloux

    Votes: 33 94.3%

  • Fowler

    Votes: 3 8.6%
  • Total voters
    35
The only real untouchable in a trade for a legit 2C or legit top 4 RD is Demidov. Reinbacher and Fowler are close to being on that list, but I'm sure there are 2C and top 4 RD's I would trade them for.
 
SisuHabsSisu said:
Addressing Hage… I love the kid but he’s become one of those players into whom fans project their fantasies. The fact of the matter is he’s an 18 year old who could end up being a stud or… not. And even if he does become a solid 2C, that’s not going to be for 4-5 years. If a legit present-day 2C costs Hage along with, say, picks and Mailloux, you gotta let him go.

No team is going to give up a top 50 center in the league for spare parts. Why would they? Then they are in the same brutal position that we’re in. The only scenario I can envision is a bottom-feeding, tanking-for-a-few-years team who has a quality 2C who doesn’t fit their window but hopes that Hage is their future 2C. Our window does not begin in 5 years (god willing).

This is by no means any evidence but I love this site, Hockey Prospecting, and thought I would give it a shout-out.
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Good prospects are not spare parts. You reasoning was the same that was used in the Ribeiro, McDO and Sergachev trades. We need to be very cautious while trading good prospects. It needs to be for a good players in his prime. If the other teams have the "spare parts" reasoning then you simply hang the phone.

waitin425 said:
Volokhin and Bogdan?

You're right...I probably could have added them. I feel like they are such an unknown commodity for the majority that they would probably get every vote.
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Yes. They're not going to be the main piece but as an extra piece to move a needle they could work.
 
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Rapala said:
How many people who actually watch Laval play are clamoring for a call up.
Both have been equally disappointing for different reasons.
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I don't disagree that Roy is not trending super positively. However Roy is much closer to the NHL than Mesar and I'd argue Roy has been the better player at all levels
 
Ultimately the piece that needs to be acquired by trade is a no 2C.

some combo of Kappanen, Mailloux, Roy, Dach, This years 2 firsts, Pittsburg's 2nd are all in play for me.

I will not move demidov, reinbacher, fowler. I do not want to move beck, Hage, Heineman,

At the end of the day Dach plus Mailloux, and kappanen and a 1st and high 2nd (pens) should get you a more than servicable no 2 centre
 
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Darz said:
The only real untouchable in a trade for a legit 2C or legit top 4 RD is Demidov. Reinbacher and Fowler are close to being on that list, but I'm sure there are 2C and top 4 RD's I would trade them for.
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It depends what you mean by legit 2c. One in his prime around the same age as Suzuki sure. One over 30 years old Reinbacher should absolutely not be available for such player. We should not attempt to do Gomez for McDO 2.0. Gomez retired i was still young and McDo is still killing it.
 
waitin425 said:
I've got a fly-in trip planned this spring. After a few beers, I for sure am trying the red licorice approach!
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It works trust me I saw Cyril Chauquet use the method on one of his shows and one of those fly in lakes are where it took place. Voracious bastards them amd the black flies.
 
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SisuHabsSisu said:
Just to put a smile on your faces this morning (and to illustrate that the HP guy Byron Bader has a system and is no Habs hater)… Though we all already know this is truth, it’s still fun to see, I think.
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So you're saying there's a chance here :sarcasm:

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LaP said:
Good prospects are not spare parts. You reasoning was the same that was used in the Ribeiro, McDO and Sergachev trades. We need to be very cautious while trading good prospects. It needs to be for a good players in his prime. If the other teams have the "spare parts" reasoning then you simply hang the phone.


Yes. They're not going to be the main piece but as an extra piece to move a needle they could work.
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People didnt wanted to trade Poehling back in the day for Oreilly, it goes both way. As much as i like Hage, there’s nothing sure about him (injuries,tough time to adjust top pro game etc). + he’s probably 4 years away from away any impact in the NHL. If there’s a top6 center under 28-29yold available and u can get him for Hage + mid first rounder, you gotta pull the trigger.
 
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TomKosto said:
People didnt wanted to trade Poehling back in the day for Oreilly, it goes both way. As much as i like Hage, there’s nothing sure about him (injuries,tough time to adjust top pro game etc). + he’s probably 4 years away from away any impact in the NHL. If there’s a top6 center under 28-29yold available and u can get him for Hage + mid first rounder, you gotta pull the trigger.
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Not sure who those people were but anybody should have done that trade. Poehling was a lesser prospect than Hage by a good margin. The talks were Galchenyuk for ROR in 2015.
 
LaP said:
It depends what you mean by legit 2c. One in his prime around the same age as Suzuki sure. One over 30 years old Reinbacher should absolutely not be available for such player. We should not attempt to do Gomez for McDO 2.0. Gomez retired i was still young and McDo is still killing it.
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I agree with you...it would have to be a legit 2C in the same age range as our core. No interest in moving high end prospects for a player that is 5 plus years older
 
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I want an under-25, established Center. Who could we get for 2 1sts, 2 2nds?
 
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